Agassi with Donnay?!?!?

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  1. RollTrackTake

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    Nike makes a hefty profit on shoe sales. It is their cash cow. When kids buy Jordan's, Kobe's, Ballistics etc.. I can safely say they earn more than $15/shoe. My brother works in the corporate office for a major athletic apparel company that includes shoes. The money the can make off shoe sales is why addidas can give Derrick rose $250 mil. And the cost of manufacturing a pair of nikes, factory+labor is no more than $20 best case scenario. When phil knight + Nike were busted for running sweat shops in Taiwan the cost of each shoes with labor attached was half. Basketball sneakers alone do $2 Bil in sales annually. I'm sure tennis doesn't do as well but even a slight fraction of that is a nice profit. And if u think shoe companies spend more than 5% of their budget on R&D then can I interest you in some moon rock I want to infuse into the next line of tennis racquets?
     
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    Ha ha, he spent several pages whining about them in his biography.
     
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  3. ChicagoJack

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    Ha, you beat me to it. Not surprising at all. Roman and Agassi go back a long way.

    Jack
     
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  5. JoelDali

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    Steffi is the classy Lady's Lady GOAT. She will win The Wimbledon.
     
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  6. Fifth Set

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    Yup, it's a very nice stick. I demoed but, alas wasn't skilled enough for it, even with the generous 102 sq in.
     
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  7. BreakPoint

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    The fact that shoe companies pay athletes contracts like $250 million or $100 million is exactly why they can only make a profit of $15 or less per pair of shoes. Those salaries are included in marketing costs, which are deducted before net profits. The question is, did Nike make more net profits after paying Agassi $100 million or would they have made more net profits from their tennis business if they hadn't paid Agassi $100 million? What was the net incremental profit after paying Agassi?
     
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  8. big ted

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    i dont even think nike thought of agassi as a profit deal but more of as an advertisement deal. he was always on tv and in the magazines wearing nike clothing and shoes - exposure. even if people didnt buy his crazy neon clothes and shoes he got the brand out there
     
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  9. classic tennis

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    Yeah I'm sure given Mike and Dave's track record they signed up for that :-|

    No chance.
     
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  10. SFrazeur

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    I was told it was a 30 year license by someone who had some business negotiations with one of the owners. The actual realities of the license is unknown to any of us here.
     
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  11. classic tennis

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    Every single other SD licence around the world is one plus two renewable, and you honestly think Ashley and Forsey signed thirty years to these blokes? hell the brand is for sale at the right price.

    If your mate thinks this is the case I have a bridge he may be interested in.
     
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  12. SFrazeur

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    No reason to be insulting to anyone. I am simply telling what I was told. I don't personally give a damn about Donnay.

    -SF
     
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  13. classic tennis

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    SF sorry if it read that way it was not my intention. I don't give a toss about them either. C
     
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  14. floydcouncil

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    Totally INCORRECT. Retail $ is actually NOT 2x wholesale for tennis shoes. Wholesale is approximately 52-54% of retail. (I'm using the price I saw for Vapor 9 shoes.)

    I was lucky to have seen the wholesale prices on nike.net, the retailers' ordering platform.
     
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  15. slice 'n dice

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    Then it can't be true, cuz any racquet company that signs agassi is gonna make a big deal out of it. Probably somebody painted his Head racquet to look like a donnay?
     
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  16. BreakPoint

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    If you think large retailers pay full wholesale price then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you. ;-)

    And even if they overpay and pay 50% of retail, that means the retail price is still 2X the wholesale price.

    Oh, and I also hope you don't really believe that car dealers actually pay the "invoice price", do you? :shock:
     
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  17. Miami Tiburon

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    Most Racquets are Mfg in China so why would Donnay be any different
     
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  18. paulorenzo

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    i like the new donnays, regardless if they are made in china or belgium. good feeling sticks, the dampened response of a prostaff with a prestige feel, thin beamed. if only they were priced like dunlops
     
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  19. Miami Tiburon

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    From What I know Agassi is back with Donnay
     
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    There's like $2.50 worth of cheap plastic and foam in that shoe. Local retail price: $129.98
    Hearing how Nike only makes $15/ pair of shoes breaks my heart. Pretty soon I will start a charity for them.
     
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  21. floydcouncil

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    We are not talking about cars here.

    Do you know what the wholesale price of a Vapor 9 is?

    If you don't.. Shut up!!
     
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  22. BreakPoint

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    Yes, I do. The question is - do YOU?

    I also used to work in sales to distributors.
     
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  23. classic tennis

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    They are not Donnay!...they are two Korean blokes who Licence the name, from the British owners who sell Donnay socks and underwear....
     
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  24. Miami Tiburon

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    It's a licensee agreement I understand how it works but still Agassi is using
    the Donnay frame . Its just surprising to me I thought Agassi was still with
    Head .
     
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  25. BreakPoint

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    We're not talking about the company. We're talking about the racquet. The racquet is a "Donnay" because it's branded as a "Donnay". That is the name of the brand.
     
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  26. gramdacious

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    Can someone just tell us what the wholesale price of a Vapor 9 is? I'd love to know.
     
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  27. RollTrackTake

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    Not sure about Vapors. Jordans wholesale between $30-$40 depending on the volume purchased.
     
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  28. vkartikv

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    All I can say is he looks like a former pornstar..
     
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  29. NicoMK

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    :lol: excellent
     
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  30. NicoMK

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    Even more excellent :lol::lol::lol:

    (And you're right)

    Sorry for my useless replies guys but these last posts really made me laugh!

    Cheers ;-)
     
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  31. floydcouncil

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    BP says he knows. :rolleyes.

    It is slightly HIGHER than 1/2 of retail.
     
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  32. BreakPoint

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    How much do you think Air Jordans retail for? A heck of a lot more than Vapors! And it looks like the wholesale price on Jordans are only 20-25% of retail price.

     
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    It is remarkable, isn't it? And she wasn't exactly hideous before.
     
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  34. Setmatch45

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    For the guy's who really know the pro's racquets. Did Andre ever leave Donnay? I have heard that he was using a Donnay racquet with the proper head paint job.
     
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  35. vsbabolat

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    Yes, Andre really did leave Donnay and switched to HEAD. While with HEAD He used the Radical Tour (Trisys) 260 Oversize with a variety of paint jobs over the years.
     
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  36. tennisdj

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    Just saw this..

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  37. Rabbit

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    There was a time when Agassi first signed with Donnay that he was dissatisfied with the frame they built him. For a time, Agassi was even playing with the Prince Original Graphite with a big "D" stenciled on it. The folks at Donnay were aghast. It seems Agassi never told them he didn't like the frame. The frame was fixed.

    Then there was Agassi's foray into the widebody world. He played the 1st round at the French with a new Donnay widebody frame. Things didn't go too well with the frame and there were none of Agassi's old frames around. Agassi wound up winning the match and breaking every one of the new widebody frames after the match on court.

    His old frames were overnighted to the tournament. :)
     
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  39. FabulousDD

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    Terrific: Andre crushing Roddick with...an Aeropro from Babolat!

    Hi! I'm back on track, it's been a while.

    I don't know if he'll eventually chose donnay because he looks so efficient and powerful with the Babolat Aeroprodrive! It seems that Andre is still testing racquets...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sgfKnFETZc

    (go to 4"30! He's so powerful!)
     
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  40. jackcrawford

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    It has to be a little embarrassing for Donnay to have this happen so soon after making a big deal of "46 racquets bought." I see it's been pulled from their blog, http://blog.donnayusa.com/ originally posted Sept. 19.
     
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  41. timmyjl12

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    I was sitting not far to your right! I was shocked to see agassi playing with babolat!
     
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  42. Roforot

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    Well, most of us can relate, having just bought a new racquet, I find myself now wondering about the Steam99s...
     
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  43. big ted

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    i like their 'spin' article that roddick and clijsters basically retired due to shoulder injuries because they didnt use a donnay racquet
     
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  44. scotus

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    I have suffered from TE before, so I tried a couple of the first generation Donnay Xenecore racquets when they came out.

    From the first swing, I could feel the shock and vibration travel up my arm.

    Needless to say, I stopped the demo process in less than 3 minutes and never looked back.
     
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  45. Roforot

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    There's some salesmanship going on their website, but it's probably no more than any other company. Some companies boast power or spin and other like ProKennex tout arm safety.

    It is kind of sleazy though the way they mention Clijister and Roddick even though they acknowledge injuries weren't a cause for their retirement. Would I blame Donnay when James Blake retires?
     
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  46. BauerAlmeida

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    Obviously they study all this stuff before offering a contract to somebody. If they pay someone a certain amount of money, it's because he generates it.
     
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  47. BeGreat

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    wow he looks like he's 50+
     
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  48. rst

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    agreed. i cant hit with anything other than my x-yellow.
     
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  49. Borrelli

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    No, he meant the "pro one". A racquet that was produced in the 90's and something the "new" company does not own the rights to.
     
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