Agassi's Goodbye Tour is a Stinker

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  1. sandiegotennisboy

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    what a way to go out....losing early all the time. who's to say the USO will be any different? he should have retired while he was still close to the top and not as an an aging geezer way past his prime.
     
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  2. Freedom

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    And yet, that "aging geezer way past his prime" is doing so much better on tour than you.
     
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  3. Phillip=Tennis guy

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    Freedom,

    I agree.
     
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  4. quest01

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    At least he isn’t making the mistake Pete Sampras did by retiring after the U.S. Open prematurely. Winning the grand slam got to his head and he decided to retire too soon. What Pete Sampras did is far worse then what Agassi is doing now. Agassi will at least go down as playing a full career.
     
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  5. superman1

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    He's playing a full line-up to say goodbye to all of the fans across the country.

    He played badly in one tournament and went out early. Okay, happens to everyone. He did pretty well in LA and is still training hard and focused on winning matches.

    If you don't like it, don't watch it.
     
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  6. BaseLineBash

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    I posted this in an earlier thread. Try to understand Mr. Armchair.

    I understand what you are saying, but you have to look at it from his undeniable perspective. Andre Kirk Agassi has been a tennis player basicly from the beginning of his life, he turned pro in 1986 at the age of 16 and is now 36 years of age still on the tour. It has defined him to a large degree whether he admits it or not, to walk away from something that you have always known and that has always been constant has to be hard, VERY hard. Look at other occupations, barbers and electricians, these types of work you really can do for a long period of your life almost all on your terms. With tennis or any other physically demanding sport it's not all on your terms, you can't do these things into your 60s and 70s and it hurts, it really hurts when the mind is willing but the body is not. What's on the other side is another part of the equation, kinda like a man that has been imprisoned for more than half his life, what does he do once he finally gets out? It's scary no matter how much money or money you don't have. Luckily it seems Andre has readied himself and is anxious at this point to what is on the other side, to find out who is on the other of Andre Kirk Agassi, who is the real Agassi. The one thing I hope no one takes for granted, is the love Andre has for this game and all that support it.
     
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  7. jjames

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    and this is why hes retiring.
     
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  8. sandiegotennisboy

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    i thought it was cuz he can't win anymore
     
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  9. jjames

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    yes, because he's losing early all the time.
     
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  10. Virtuous

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    Well, at least post retirement there won't be any 'what ifs'
     
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  11. arnz

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    Gentlemen,

    Please stop. I believe sandiegotennisboy has been "owned" enough for one day ;)
     
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  12. mctennis

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    He can retire anytime he likes. It's his life NOT yours. There are other players that just never show up again and never announce they are actually retiring. He can damn well do as he pleases without getting YOUR permission. Grow up and learn something from life. He definately doesn't need the money. He is playing for the love of the game and the fans. Well the fans that like him and appreciate him playing all these years. If you don't like him don't watch him. Watch Roddick, Fish, Blake flail away at other players and make excuses why they doen't win every game they play. What happened to all these supposed American whiz kids? Paleeeeze...........
    Thanks for reading.
     
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  13. emcee

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    If you use this argument all the time, you can't criticize anyone on tour! But that's what fans do.
     
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  14. nalbandian_fan

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    exactly, agassi was a great player and everyone knows that. Pete Sampras made a big mistake retiring after winning the us open, who knows how many more grand slams he would've won if he hadn't quit. Agassi is being much smarter by quitting when hes doing worse and its clear his career his coming to an end.
     
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  15. AJK1

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    You're wrong about Sampras, he quit when he knew he couldn't win again, and what better way for the GOAT to retire a winner. Smart move i say, Agassi should have quit at last year's USO.
     
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  16. Rickson

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    Now if he'd just stop blowing kisses at the crowd. You're a dude, Andre! Jeez!
     
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  17. Sadyv

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    YEs indeed, Pete's retirement was about as perfect as could be.

    The last few years of his career he struggled with a greatly diminished drive to compete and win, and the questions and accusations, people saying he was washed up and should retire.

    He was then able to summon up that great competitive fire and determination one last time to win a slam. I think after he did that, he was not going to ever be able to do it again, and Pete seems to have felt the same way.

    Sure, with his talents he could have played several more years, been a good player, won some smaller tournaments. But the real passion for playing was gone, and Pete Sampras was never going to be the real Pete Sampras on the tennis court again. Going out on a US Open victory was the best ending he could have wished for.

    I think was we are seeing, Agassi should have retired after the US OPen final last year. Though he didn't win, he played the best player in the world, and for a stretch there, played like he did in his prime, and showed us all the talent and game that he possessed, and had the Demigod Federer on the run, and Federer had to really bring forth his best tennis to stop the run, and make Andre remember he wasn't a young man in his prime anymore.

    You always have to respect an athletes wishes on how long they play, but personally, I'd much rather remember that final with Federer as his last match, and not going out in the first couple rounds to some lesser player.
     
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  18. ACE of Hearts

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    Agassi should start giving his kid a tennis racquet and save his memories.Its obvious that its over.He cant keep taking cortisone shots everytime.
     
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  19. theace21

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    I still hope he can make a final run in the US Open, but it doesn't look good...
     
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    Maybe he doesn't want to over exert to prevent getting injured that way he can get as far as he can in the US Open.
     
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  21. cricri

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    That's so true
     
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  22. sandiegotennisboy

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    oh "Paleeeze", i diss all of them suppo-sed 'new balls please' campaign players. i dont save my criticisms for andre agassi. i hate on everyone equally.

    considering that andre has been sucking for the past year and a half or so, it is obvious he was playing for the love of the game and the fans....and probably a small motivation from thinking he could win another slam. what im saying is he is gonna retire while on his downward spiral and thats the truth. so enjoy whatever memories you have of his past accomplishments and his ugly, pathetic exit from the game. i say he shouldve quit last year.

    for all you people who think that sampras shouldnt have quit when he did, you are crazy. he would probably be doing the same thing andre is doing now...sticking around til your back just cant hold up anymore and just losing early in tournaments.
     
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  23. hoosierbr

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    AA's been on such a downward spiral that last summer he won a title, took Nadal to three tight sets at the finals in Montreal and almost won the US Open, taking Federer to the max. I wish I could play on such a downward spiral.
     
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  24. BaseLineBash

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    Good to see you back Indiana.
     
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  25. hoosierbr

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    Dude, I went to IU!
     
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  26. BaseLineBash

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    I got you might have gone to IU, but if you were recently there...this is weird.:eek:
     
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  27. hoosierbr

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    Not really, graduated in 2002.
     
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  28. BaseLineBash

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    Well hell Hoosier, what was the point of saying "Dude, I went there", of course I figured that...that's why I said "Good to see you back Indiana." I thought you meant you were just in Indiana and that's why you haven't posted in a while and you thought it was weird I called you Indiana since you just got back from there, Oh well:rolleyes:
     
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  29. hoosierbr

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    This is just plain weird. I don't even know what we're talking about. Sorry for any confusion, though. Let's just agree that it's good to back Indiana.
     
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  30. BaseLineBash

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    There you have it! The title that is, "Good to see you back Indiana" or "It's good to be back Indiana", a western based in Indiana weird...yes, but it just might work!;)
     
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  31. emo5

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    Haha 10 replies in half an hour, all flames towards sandiego tennis boy.

    sandiego tennisboy why did you bother?
     
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  32. superman1

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    That's the difference between Sampras and Agassi. Sampras was faded, he took one last breath and gave it all he had, won the US Open and then had no more desire to win anymore.

    Agassi got to the US Open Final and that just motivated him even more to work harder and improve himself so that he could take it a step higher and win the US Open next time. Then he tore all of the ligaments in his ankle in that racquetball accident, and that was the last of him. He has had some great moments since then, shown some brilliance and reminded us why he is one of the greatest, but he hasn't been able to fully recover. If he hadn't been injured, I wonder how long he would have lasted.
     
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  33. FEDEXP

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    You have to win to retire? It would be nice but just maybe Agassi wants to say farewell to his fans.
     
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    Agassi is exercising his choice. Where is it written that Pete made a mistake(?); I thought it was great for him to go out on his own terms.
     
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  35. stalliondan

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    I love the way so many pansies, yes pansies, can bash a player like Agassi who has won 8 slams (all 4 different majors), has won millions of prize money, and has left a mark on tennis like no other player. Do you know how many players got into the game because Dre? Well, me for one but just ask a majority of pros who their idol was and they will tell you it was Dre. The guy has played till he was 36 effectively, which is an age where no one thought someone could play well against all these young guys. The guy has a bad back and a family and he is bowing out gracefully. And at least he doesn't make excuses for his early exists like Sampras.
     
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  36. OrangeOne

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    As pointed out by others, Agassi played the UO final last year against Fed.

    Many, many professional players play their entire careers without making a slam final. Some players who make the top 10 will still never make a slam final. None of these players "suck".

    If that's your definition of sucking, I think people will probably not be too keen to listen to other things you say :/.
     
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  37. Rabbit

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    I'm sure Agassi would love to script his farewell tour, wouldn't we all? However, life doesn't work that way. I, for one, will sorely miss the Dominator when he's gone. While he may not have the success at 36 on his farewell tour that the author of this thread thinks, he is at leat giving us notice and an opportunity to watch him play for the last time.
     
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    Samparas retired at the right time. He won that last one with fingernails, and none new major was likely.

    It is about lasting images. There was this great Chinese gymnast LI NING, who won some 10 Olympic medals. But he hung on too long, and in the last meet he caught one foot in one of those hanging hoops, and dangled like a chicken in mid air. That basically killed any fantasies about him.

    But Andre should do better
     
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  39. tommytom11

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    great post. i think the trouble started for AA when he hurt his ankle last fall and still tried to play the shanghai final. when he re-hurt the ankle there it basically cost him almost 6 months really. he has been playing catch-up since then.
     
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  40. tommytom11

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    right on superman
     
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  41. AgassiFan12

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    Why does everyone seem to forget that he is dealing with a bad lower back and hip problem that he receives cortizone shots for. His skills are all still there, it's his movement that is hurting him right now. Perhaps he is hoping that the US Open Series events will loosen him up for his big push at the USO. I think he still has one more tour victory in him, probably not the USO though.

    That just may be the borderline obsessive fan of his that I am coming out. It pains me to see him go. I am 26 years old and have been a fan of his since 2nd grade when I was 8 years old (mainly because of a nike shirt with his name and picture on it).
     
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  42. sandiegotennisboy

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    cuz everyone knows its true and their just in denial.
     
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  43. RadekStepanekTheKing

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    What a silly thread. :confused:
     
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  44. sandiegotennisboy

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    well at least its not pathetic, like the way agassi, your hero, is exiting the game.
     
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  45. lorenza

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    woah...agassi is not pathetic. hes just tired and worn out from all those 20+ years of playing tennis practically nonstop. he has a back and hip problem and is doing his best to thank all his fans by playing as many tournaments as he can in his last months. so what if he doesnt win the us open like sampras did? at least hes going and he should be appreciated for his effort.
     
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  46. tommytom11

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    what a nice, respectful comment about a guy who, like him or not, has universally done more for the sport than anyone. something tells me that you are only a fan of 'class' acts like the Williams sisters.
     
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  47. RiosTheGenius

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    that means that perhaps you should retire from the board now at the top of your absurdity
     
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  48. sandiegotennisboy

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    for you and riosthe-so-called-genius-with-so-slam-whatsoever-and-couldnt-even-maintain-no.1 :

    im not dissing agassi. im saying he couldve gone out nicer than now...looking like a washed up early round losing geezer.
     
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  49. Tennis_Monk

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    However Agassi wants to retire, is perfectly fine. I dont care if he looses his last match or if he wins his last match. That match doesnt make a difference to what Agassi is for me or for Tennis.
    I remember high points of his career with a photo graphic realism. I also remember his low points.His last match is academic to me at the best.

    His game/his accomplishments and his name are safely etched into the History of Tennis. While there can be debates about him being a G.O.A.T, there is no debate that he belongs to the Top tier of players that have played this game.

    Agassi is not sampras and Sampras is not Agassi. Agassi will not have 14 grandslams and Sampras is not going to add a Frenchopen into his kitty.

    It is better for Agassi to play and retire while he is loosing as that is what he always wanted (i will retire when my my body no longer takes it). He would have loved to play few more years and so does his fans..but then Age wont let him.

    I sure will miss him on the Tour. Nostalgia strikes me when i know he is retiring because I owe my tennis to him.
     
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  50. ATXtennisaddict

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    quoted for truth
     
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