Agassi's Meth Using Confession... Good or Bad?

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Is this confession by Agassi (in his new book) a good thing or a bad thing?

  1. Good

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  2. Bad

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  1. Bud

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    For an unbiased consensus on the issue.

    This is a totally anonymous poll that asks a simple question:

    Is this confession by Agassi (in his new book) a good thing or a bad thing?

    Also, please no flaming other users if they choose to post their opinion on the issue. I'd like this poll and thread to remain unlocked and accessible for the future :grin:

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Cesc Fabregas

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    VERY BAD, not only does it give tennis a bad name, it was also for very selfish reasons so he could sell more copies of his book.
     
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  3. Very good....
     
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  4. veroniquem

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    The one thing you're not gonna get on this issue is a CONSENSUS, believe me. And what does it mean good or bad? It's bad that it happened but it's good people know it happened.
     
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  5. VERY GOOD, shows everyone he has the balls to step forward risking his great legacy, and shows everyone that he is only human and that even mega-stars makes mistake. Unlike other American superstars like Kobe Bryant and Michael Vick he didnt hurt anybody.

    Also, ppl are making a big deal over this-and the fact that Nadal is questioning him is a BIG FAT JOKE!
     
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  6. Bud

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    From the other (numerous) threads, it's difficult to determine how the community really feels.

    I'm leaving this anonymous poll open-ended so future TT members can weigh in on the issue.
     
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  7. Is that gj011:s avatar ?
    :shock:
     
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  8. Bud

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    Unless the voting is split up the middle the poll will show a consensus. In general, TT members appear pretty polarized on the issue... hence the good or bad options, only.

    If you're indifferent on the issue, don't vote in the poll.
     
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  9. Mick

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    he followed mark twain's advice: when in doubt, tell the truth.
     
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  10. veroniquem

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    It is. It's great. I've always liked it.
     
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  11. GS

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    Now Agassi tells People Magazine he used meth periodically for "a year or so".
    So which is it?---just once or much more than that?
    This guy's credibility is going downhill. He got a $5 million advance for his book, so why all this crap with updated facts? More guilt coming out?
     
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    I don't think the majority is always right, far from it but I won't vote because the formulation of the poll is ambiguous: as I said before, it's bad for the sport that this kind of things happens but it's better to know it happens than think players are saints who always tell the truth and never do anything wrong when it's not the case.
     
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  13. bluetrain4

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    It's neither. The announcement came in October when we're all eager to discuss something interesting since the season is winding down and there are no more Slams left. Once the new season starts and 2.5 months have passed, the issue will be devoid of its novelty and "wow" factor.

    But, expect a few trolls to ALWAYS bring it up when Agassi's name pop's up.

    As I've stated in other posts, I actually think it's a pretty serious revelation, moreso the fact that he lied to the ATP about it, which makes me view Agassi slightly (but just slightly) less positively I don't think he's "heroic" by any means for admitting it, but at the same time, I don't think this eviscerates everything positive he has done through is career.
     
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    He never said it was once, it lasted for a while and he's lucky he was able to get out of it.
     
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  15. bolo

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    Very good of course.

    Nadal is on target as usual. If true and any preferential treatment was shown then the ATP is in the wrong and it's disrespectful to all sportsment and what are agassi's motivations for making this statement?
     
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  16. Bud

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    It's not a majority/minority - right/wrong issue... a consensus is simply the opinion of the majority. You may not agree with it but it's how the majority (who choose to vote anonymously) feel about the issue.
     
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  17. veroniquem

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    But it IS heroic. As a beloved sport star would you ever volunteer an info like that? I bet not.
     
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  18. Ive already made my point in this thread, the question i wonder is...Would this had come out to the public sooner or later or never had he not stepped up to the plate ? If it had, THAT would be a disaster, now its just fine imo.
    :shock:
     
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  19. bluetrain4

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    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. His philanthropic efforts are heroic in my opinion, but not this announcement.

    Yeah, he admitted it, at a time when it has no effect whatsoever on his career. Admitting your wrong, that you lied is now an act of heroism? I guess we have different standards.
     
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  20. sureshs

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    I am more interested in this guy "Slim."
     
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    Lol! You and me. Slim sounds pretty shady, IMO :)

    Steffi is slim (physically speaking) :shock:
     
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    I agree with the first part, not the last one. The only valid motivation when writing an autobiography is to be upfront about significant parts of your life (career) whether positive or negative. I can only hope that if Rafa wrote an autobiography, he would not consider "stonewalling" an appropriate option.
     
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  23. Chadwixx

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    You do realize he is selling a book? I read alot of these posts and the people supporting him seem to disreguard this fact.

    He's had 12 years (4 without being in trouble with the wada) and he choose not to. Pretty obvious dude.
     
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  24. Cesc Fabregas

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    This "Slim" character sounds dodgy as ****.
     
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  25. He is? :shock:
    Get outta here!!
    Had he not sold his book...then what?
     
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  26. jms007

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    Motives aside, I think it's a good thing.
     
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  27. Bud

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    So, you think his motive (increased book sales) for confessing was questionable but overall the confession will be a positive thing?
     
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  28. jms007

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    Yeah, pretty much. At the very least the question of preferential treatment and corruption with ATP came up. Hopefully that will reduce the chances of the same thing happening in the future.
     
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  29. All-rounder

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    Its good he confessed but bad that he kept it a secret for a long time
     
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  30. “When Andre’s on, forget it,” says Sampras. “He does practically everything better than anybody else.”
    :)
    Source: Wikipedia
     
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  31. Bud

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    When Andre's on what? :oops:

    That's the question...
     
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  32. You have to ask Pete that !
    :shock:
     
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  33. Chadwixx

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    very nice :)



    "Had he not sold his book...then what?"

    It would of been like the previous 12 years im gonna say


    Btw, anyone who thinks one of the biggest idols of all time endorsing drugs is a good thing, is a freaking idiot.
     
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  34. sureshs

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    Was Slim really Nalbandian?
     
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  35. Bud

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    Nalbandian would have been like 15 in 1997 :oops:
     
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  36. sureshs

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    Sampras was slim.
     
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  37. Shangri La

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    Really bad. He gave the sport a bad name and made ATP look like a complete fool.
     
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  38. kOaMaster

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    not good.
    telling cowardly how he took drugs and avoided punishments after he retired when he's trying to sell his autobiography is selfish, does not help tennis at all and shows how false even people you would not except it from can be.


    :oops:
    talking of the "source" wikipedia when you citate something is like taking people in here for full
     
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  39. jimbo333

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    Good for Agassi's book sales.

    Bad for the ATP and their rubbish (possibly corrupt) drug testing procedures, the sport of tennis in general and most importantly "Slim"!

    (I wonder what happended to that bloke?)
     
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  40. sureshs

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    He is an ATP official
     
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  41. It was meant as a joke to lighten up the mood around here.
    And i dont even know what you mean with your post?
     
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  42. Bud

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    Slim died from a blow to the head with a blunt object... possibly a tennis racquet :shock:
     
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  43. jimbo333

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    Nope, I was talking about these days:)
     
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  44. jimbo333

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    This has possibly been covered up by the ATP as well:)
     
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    This revelation by Agassi had a purpose...and that is to sell a whole lot of his books.

    Or maybe to reveal the duplcity of the ATP execs and tennis drug testers?


    Or to point out the fact that he (and probably many others) don't like tennis at all...it's only a way to make a good living if you're good at tennis.


    I think the intersting thing will be to follow Agassi now and see how the ATP handles this mess.

    And how they handle the outcry from players and fans.

    Agassi is sitting pretty, watching ATP squirm while he continues to get TV invites from Larry King and David Letterman.


    And lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
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  46. jimbo333

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    Have the ATP responded at all yet?
     
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  47. bolo

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    I think it's a fair question by nadal. It's a natural question for most people, and it's likely to be on many peoples minds. Like you say, most likely agassi did it because it's an autobiography.

    Some commentary here:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article6897199.ece
     
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  48. naplesfltennis

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    You forgot a choice in the poll.
    Who cares!
     
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    I have no idea. Andre methodically stated that the ATP did not catch him. So what the heck should the modern Doping association even care. Andre made it clear that he did cheat the system
     
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    I think it's a good thing; it's always nice to get a hands-on perspective of the life of professional athletes because we all know it's not as glamorous as we would like to think. Sure, they come out and put on a good show, but on an economic level, sports entertainment is a sleazy, sleazy business and I'm fascinated when athletes come out and spill the guts of the inner workings and show us what it's really about.

    He experimented with drugs; honestly, how many of us haven't? Alcohol is a drug, which, generally, has been more dangerous to society than crystal meth. However, we have a more relaxed view on it. If he had come out and said he were an alcoholic, I think everyone would be coming out and supporting him, and not being bashed by Nadal, Navratilova, etc. We need to get over WHAT drug it is, and recognize that he went through a tough stretch of his life and support him for having both the will to quit and the courage to come out and admit it.
     
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