ALEX Bogomolov-- Traiter

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  1. Fedace

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    ALEX Bogomolov-- Traitor

    Alex applies to ITF to play for Russia in davis cup next year. What is wrong with this picture ? USA has bled sweat and tears to train this man. and this is how he repays america ?
     
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    Ridiculous comment: they makes lots of bets on players and some pay off and some don't. In any event, it's not clear it will happen.
     
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  3. djokovic2008

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    Normally I would also say ridiculous comment but I keep hearing negative stuff about this guy.
     
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    If you are going to accuse someone of being a traitor, then at least learn how to spell the word correctly.
     
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  5. dr325i

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    A few names for you: Monika Seles, Martina Navratilova, etc...
    Their countries did the same, I have not heard you complaining about that...
     
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    Pretty sure the USA has not 'bled sweat and tears' (whatever that means) to train Alex B. I don't think he was ever one of their chosen ones. He will not be allowed to switch without the consent of the USTA and they want to talk to him about first since he is now the #4 ranked American male. Amer Delic, Eric Taino, Cecil Mamit and others have been given approval by the USTA to play Davis Cup for other countries, and I think all of them got more assistance than Alex.
     
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    I got no problem w/ it. US is plenty stacked w/ Rod, Isner, Fish, Querrey once he gets healthy...realistically Bog has a better chance of playing for Russia than for the US. More power to him.
     
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    If he wants to go, let him go.
     
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    i thought u made a bogomolov trailer - what a disappointment
     
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  11. Fedace

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    Ok, if there is no room for him in the US squad, he can play for the Russians. Alex had always considered himself to be an american and saids so on several occasions. I am not sure what benefits he could gain by playing on russian team.
     
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    Alex is a good young man and has come up the hard way here playing years of futures/challengers ETC. He's done his time and is now reaping the rewards of his labors.

    The Russian Tennis Federation sought Alex out in this matter and will assist Alex (financially, coaching, lots of opening doors ETC.) much like the usta has done for Donald Young (Mardy Fish, Ryan Harrison, ETC.)

    The U.S Davis Cup squad is pretty set and while Alex might have a chance at being named, his opportunities on the squad would be considered limited by anyone who understands rank structure on any Davis cup squad (Just ask Vince Spadea who was ranked 18 in the world and still served as hitting partner to an up and comming Mardy Fish in 2003-2004)

    This in no way is a bad move for Alex and his love for the U.S shouldn't be questioned here in my opinion. I'm Red White and Blue all the way and am personally a big Alex fan. This guy deserves every chance he gets and he would be crazy not to accept this invitation by the Russian Tennis Federation.

    The Russian team needs this guy as bad as he needs some much needed assistance after all these years. Just food for thought :)
     
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  14. sureshs

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    If he is not a US citizen, there is no moral obligation. And even if he was, it is no big deal today. I think there are 2 US players who play for the Philipines.
     
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    I think he has dual citizenship. I don't see his actions in a negative light. The guy wants to play tennis, and the US captains are not selecting him for the team, so why not play for Russia. An asset not used is not really an asset.
     
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    Oops, mispost.

    Anyway, it's his choice and he's looking out for his best interests and perhaps Davis Cup playing opportunities.
     
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    OMG, I actually agree with you on something.

    Of course, this guy can do what he wants, but he has a bad reputation and probably for good reason.

    He never came off as very "American" to me anyway. Tursunov seems way more 'yankee' (actually 'Cali') than "Bogo..."
     
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    I think you're right, he has dual citizenship. As far as I can tell, he will not be eligible for the Olympics for either country so switching to play for Russia wouldn't really be that big of a deal for him. He would still live with his child and fiancee in New York, just like Tursunov still lives in Northern California. Alex went broke for 10 years playing with little to no assistance or sponsorship. If he can make some of that money back playing for Russia for a year or two, more power to him. Whatever he and the USTA discuss and agree to is fine with me.
     
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    Whom did he trait?
     
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    Personal negative experience with makes me say, adios!
     
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    http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=14956&zoneid=25
     
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  22. DRII

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    Good sourcing, thanks!

    Bogo... is a d***.
     
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  23. rdis10093

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    traitor, come on man you are a college grad.
     
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    Somewhere I'm sure a fifth-grader or two might be changing their application plans away from Palo Alto.
     
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    First of all, I thought Alex Bogomolov was British. Was he born in Russia? I would think you would have to have been at least born in a country if you wanted to represent it.
     
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    Why the hostility? He's a duel citizen. What's wrong with trying to play Davis Cup for Russia, considering he was born there and lived there until he was 9? And why are the USTA so insular in their outlook? This is an international global world, USTA, not just the USA.
     
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    i think just cause he is such a jerk on the tour. if he was a nice guy, we may think different especially since USA squad doesn't need his help.
    Not sure what benefits, Alex would have by playing on the Russian squad ? Money ?? connection ?? what ?
     
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    Thanks for clarifying this, Mustard. Would be nice if he'd play for the US but I won't get upset if he plays for Russia.
     
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  29. DRII

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    Uhm, surely you should understand the the USTA's concern would be more with the USA than the global world!

    "Insular in their outlook"; its called the United States Tennis Association (USTA), not the global world tennis association!

    And Russia can have the Bogo... or bozo! I'm sure his horrible attitude and actions will fit in much better there.
     
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    Lol..you may have got him confused with Alex Bogdanovic who IS British (though Serbian-born). Similar names but the British A-Bog is currently ranked 375th in the world though he is still the British #6!

    Yep, he was born in Russia. Emigrated to the US with his parents when he was aged 11.
     
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    so he is more Russian than American. but he considers himself to be american. he plans on cashing the social security checks from what i hear.
     
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    All the top Russian players have been recruited by Kazakhstan, so the Russian team needs to source from less developed nations to complete its line-up.
     
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    The usta is upset because Alex has developed and is making a difference at the tour level now? Up until a very short time ago Alex, his wife and child were having to live with his mother/father in law because he wasn't making enough money on the futures/challenger circut to support his family, this is a rough business for someone with no or little financial support. This supposed $50k that the usta is uggesting they gave him over almost a ten year period is nothing close to financing costs involved in a traveling players life. He was definately not on the hearts and minds of the big guns at the usta and they are only now upset because the RTF chose to step in and support Alex and invite him onto the Davis Cup squad.

    Again, Alex's love for the U.S shouldn't be on trial here. This is a good guy and in a perfect world would be a great addition to our U.S squad but lets be realistic here. Nobody and I repeat nobody can say with a straight face that Alex would be playing with the current squad we have. Heck, I'd put money down that Jim and the guys would play James Blake before Alex ever stepped out for a rubber (let alone Andy Roddick, Mardy Fish, John Isner, Bryan Bros. ETC

    This is a simple move for Alex... He'll play on the Russion Squad and the RTF is going to support him.
     
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    Actualluy, I would rather not have him be American. He was/is a disgrace to the sport.
     
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    QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH!!!! Alex might not have the most pleasant personality on tour (from personal experience of dealing with people from WTT he is not the worst), but he should not be questioned in this decision. There is no way he would ever play for the US Davis Cup squad behind Roddick, Fish, Bryan Bros. They would start Isner, Querrey, Blake and probably Harrison and Sock before Bogomolov. They are all American favorites, hardly anyone knew Bogomolov before this year.

    In my opinion I am happy for him, Russia will give him a chance to play davis cup which is something almost every tennis player wants to do at some point in their career. So kudos to you Alex Bogomolov, do Russia proud
     
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    I'd rather him not play under Old Glory.
     
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    Why all the hostility towards a guy who finally is making a dent in the rankings at age 28? At the end of '10 season he was 130+ spots down the ATP chart from today. The USTA didn't help produce that uptick. If they were responsible for successes like that, we wouldn't be headed down the toilet in all manners of international play.
     
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    Why is that, can you please give more details?
     
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    Because he was putting the money in there, just like you and I. We will not cash it in for having the US Passports but for contributiong $$$ to the system. Don't you get the quarterly reports on the SS and how much will you get?
    Sometimes, your biased comments are so amazing...
     
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    Traiter.

    Darn, I thought I had figured out the American way of spelling when I got used to color and honor. And racket. And thru.
     
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  41. sureshs

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    thru is just an abbreviation, not a valid spelling
     
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    I had no idea that you could play tennis in that place'.....:) I am going to bring my tennis racket next time.
     
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    And don't forget aluminum
     
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  44. Bartelby

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    So the USTA is the traitee???
     
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    Kudos to the OP for the mad spelling skillz.
     
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    So is a traiter someone with a trait (and what kind of trait?)
    or is it a traitor with a trailer ?
    I'm confuse ? :)
     
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  48. DRII

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    Really?

    Why all the focus on spelling and grammar?

    Who was so dense that they did not understand what Fedace was talking about?

    Speak now or forever hold your peace!

    Spelling and grammar queens on a message board -- completely useless!
     
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  49. DRII

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    He's reportedly a major putz! He hasn't gotten rid of that notorious Eastern European edginess that usually makes one come off as extremely endearing/cool (Safin, Tursonov) or an ***-wipe (Bogo..., Gulbis)
     
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  50. Love Game

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    Bogo became a U.S. Citizen.
    Martina became a U.S. Citizen.
    Not sure about Monica.

    When Tommy Haas got his U.S. citizenship, some people said he'd play davis cup for U.S.A. Since then, i've never seen any flag beside his name except the German, but then he has double citizenship.

    Does Bogomolov, Jr. have dual citizenship, too?
     
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