Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by The Dark Knight, Jun 26, 2012.
Agree, but let's modify it a bit.
All slams until the rise of the Djoker were ultra boring. Weak players, and Nadal had zero competition. You can't count a weakling like Federer as a tough opponent for Nadal. Only when Djoker spoiled the party and became the first player to stand up to Nadal is when it got fun again.
2008 Wimbledon = greatest match of all time .
Sucks. The shot making in AO 2009 final is better than that.
Stop overrating Federer so much.
2009 is NOT pre Nadal
I am saying 2009 AO final was better than W 2008 for shot making, and even in that Federer was a joke. It's just W 2008 was even worse.
And you know that clay court tennis is even more pathetic since 2005. I mean who did Nadal have as his competition on that surface? All RG's were boring, predictable and a yawn fest. And please don't say Federer, that guy lost his first 11 professional matches on clay, he certainly ain't worthy. And if that is the best you got, it doesn't hold well for the so called incredible depth. Only now with Joker around is there a slight bit of interest regarding someone other than Nadal winning a slam.
2008 wimbledon was more exciting .
Not really, Nadal should have won in three, and no one would have harped on and on about it. But he decided to choke a bit, and you know it. Federer was no competition for Nadal.
Man, you're tentatives of trolling are pathetic.
Come one, the mods should take your account down. You clearly don't know a thing about the sport and don't make any effort to learn.
By your comments I judge that you barely watch tennis.
You should be thankful that Djokovic turned up to the party, if you seek competition and depth. If no Djokovic, Nadal wins slam after slam after slam for two years straight.
How boring would that be? Djokovic probably has saved tennis by giving competition back to the game.
Not Like Nadal-Soderling, Nadal-Berdych French open and Wimbledon Finals respectively were boring.
We would be back in the pre nadal days.
Why is it ok to say Roland Garros is boring?
This thread is in response to that one .
When there is only one dominant player it's just boring .
Don't agree with this. The Wim 04 final was entertaining, as was the 05 USO final, a 35.5 yr old Agassi did his best to make the match competitive.
But tbh most of them were boring. Everybody wanted Fed to win WIM03 and when it was official he had to play phillip-useless in the final we all knew he would win it.
04AO Safin was out of petrol after gruelling 5 set matches almost all the way to the final.
04USO Hewitt was hopeless. Competitive for one set and when he didn't win it, he went away again. bagelled twice in a final is unacceptable.
05WIM Roddick wasn't playing anywhere near well enough to trouble Fed that time.
06AO was entertaining for 2 sets, but then Baggy disappeared after set 2.
06WIM was against Nadal and was highly entertaining after the first set.
06USO Roddick did well against Fed, almost got 2 sets against him but just couldn't handle the pressure in the latter stges of that third set when serving at 5 all.
07AO was boring imo. Competitive first set but nothing much after that.
07WIM was very entertaining, probably Fed's best final win at a major.
07USO against Novak was also an entertaining final, pity Novak was too inexperienced to hold his nerve in the first 2 sets.
i disagree... i actually really enjoy watching federer 04-05... seeing his overwhelming baseline game tear opponents apart. his forehand was so explosive back then. he pioneered shots from the backcourt which were almost revolutionary back then. he and safin were really leading the charge towards this baseline domination game. AO 2005 semi-final remains probably my favorite match to watch of all time.
Id love to debate you on these but I can't.....they were so boring I don't even remember them.
:lol: Like the OP was actually watching tennis before 2005........
Don't make me laugh
Was there tennis from 2003-2006? I must have missed it .
Out of interest and to compare, here are Nadal's entertaining slam finals that he won:
2006,2007,2011 RG. Fed made those matches very competitive and could've quite easily taken a few more sets off Rafa than he actually did.
AO09 was very competitive, excellent shot making from both men and went down to the wire.
WIM08 the drama was through the roof, although I agree with others the shot making wasn't as spectacular, the occassion was what made this one incredibly exciting. It had rain delays, momentum shifts, and signalled the end of the Fed WIM reign.
RG10, WIM10 I'd say were boring, we all knew who was going to win.
USO10 is a matter of opinions, I thought it was exciting, Novak was playing well in that tournament and was competitive against Rafa in the final.
RG12 was ok in terms of excitement, a lot of people were wondering if Novak could win 4 in a row and many felt that he was the only guy capable of beating Rafa at RG in a final. Unfortunately the match didn't really live up to expectations.
Pre Nadal days doesn't signal the Pre Djokovic days, when it actually became interesting, and Nadal had to started earning slams against a player who could actually give him competition.
Pre Nadal days, and Nadal days but Pre Djokovic are just are horrendous and void of any competition.
You seem like a guy that relishes good competition. You should be thrilled that Novak is here to entertain you, and make Nadal earn slams for a change.
I can already tell your one of the typical new users who come on here saying Federer played in a weak era :-|
RG = Feds slams 2003-2006 in excitement...
For the same reasons....no competition.
Well did you see te scores of those slams? Was it competitive?
the holy trinity is complete seemingly
LOL....that was really funny .
I do think you have the upper hand on the other two though...congrats
Where is NSK?
How about Clayqueen? DRII?
The party wouldn't be complete w/o them.
Miss them terribly.
Only TDK?!!! Party of one?
look closer for the premier Novak and Rafa fans lately and you got the rest of the trinity
Your comment showed the TREMENDOUS DEPTH of your knowledge about tennis.
Isn't there already a thread something like "dispel the myth Fed thrived in a weak era"?
Still need another thread for Fed bashing?
FO2009: Fed vs Soderling, right? Fed won.
That one gotta eat you up all inside? Must suck a lot.
Never count them out, I guess. I'm still waiting to see them join in.
haha you're in a for a trolling treat over the course of this Wimbledon that's for sure, enjoy the show...but yeah you seem to be familiar with some of the usual suspects
Phuk you. ;-)
You must know what I think of TDK. Most of my recent posts in the thread 'dispel the bad matchup" convey my thoughts.
Honestly, do you think this guy got all his insides eaten alive by Fed's results? There is hate, then there is TDK, I guess.
The competition was really low, and extremely one sided at almost all times. Roddick was much better in 2009, that says a lot.
Classy reply from a classy guy, as always! Still having the fantasy to have 2 women in your bed, huh?
You first, buddy.
Still running around, propping up another Fed bashing thread as I can see.
FO 2009. Still shredding your insides, isn't it?
TDK has been having fun all by himself. Not fair.
Gotta share the wealth, don't you think?
Can't wait for him to prop a thread something like"dispel the myth that Novak beat Rafa to a pulp".
I'm sorry. I had said that 11 slams is greater than 16 the same way as I would rather be with Rafas girlfriend even though there is more of Mirka.
I apologize .....I was thinking about it and I would now like to change my statement.....
I'd rather be with Rafas girl friend 11 times than Be with Mirka 16 times.
Why are you upset ....you really are a Phuc....a V Phuc to be more precise.
And yes i still have that fantasy .
Fed's slams were in a weak era, but it is not his fault.
you are on fire today.
Masterclass in how to troll a troll, lol.
only boring slam for me was 2008 FO....Fed did not show up that day =(
honest to god i have no idea how this guy is not permabanned yet!!!
He is right....not a troll though
It would be impossible to be member of this board if they never had an ignore list. And still there's quite a few quality posters have left this place. They might return if all the trolls are cut down to the minimum.
and thats what makes his efforts so noteworthy, the troll hardly suspects he is being trolled.
And they want to say this is a pro-Fed forum.
I agree, all these pro-anti threads are patetic.
Patient enough then TDK will show his true face...
True to my words. Posts #32, 37, and 38. Your own words, ...or mine, TDK?
Hypocrite, liar, and flip-flopper of the worst kind, and the list goes on.
So the FO where Fed beat Soderling, and your beloved Rafa lost to that weakling Soderling? Still gave you ulcers, didn't it? Is it 2009 to now? Wow, 3 years? A VERY LONG TIME to suffer, and as long as record books exist, these ulcers never stop, you know. Pity!
Now I kinda of understand why you kept referring to that FO in other threads. Pity on your soul (or more on your stomach).
People troll with you for the sake of having a good time. Absolutely no problem about it. However your slip-of-tongue comments about player's wife/girlfriend, pathetic arguments for your defense including the appeal to the 1st constitutional right, just show what a loser you truly are.
As I said, who gives a rat's ass about your Fed bashing arguments. You had all the time cooking them in your dark basement. Just like a politician well-rehearsed speech. Where the ugly snake head of yours reared up its hideous head was when you slipped. Yup, like"have both in bed with me, same fantasy like the majority of this board, just a guy, so what, no biggie..."
2 words: PATHETIC LOSER. And I may add:FO 2009
The DEPTH of your knowledge never ceases to amaze me!
Did Fed ever show up at the FO?
Must have missed it ....zzzzzzzzzzzz
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