Amazingly fast stringing

Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by BlxTennis, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. BlxTennis

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    I found this video while trying to find out if they string badminton any differently. Turns out about the same as stringing a tennis racquet. However, this guy did it amazingly fast with more mains & crosses. From mounting the racquet to finish in 15min. Wow. I especially like how fast he's able to weave the crosses.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCsjl1iuRcE
     
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    The title should be Amazinly Fast Badminton stringing.
     
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    Did he ever pull tension on the first cross? I don't think so.
    nice work. He knew the pattern well and used both hands and mouth for the string job.
     
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    Except with badminton racquets the right way is to string bottom up.

    Its a good video you've found, and there's one of a guy doing it in under 13 mins!

    Regards

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  5. mad dog1

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    wait, i think you really meant to say the right way to string crosses is TOP down except for badminton racquets which are strung bottom up.
     
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  6. Lakers4Life

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    I agree with Paul, Badminton rackets are strung bottom up. We are trained that Tennis rackets are strung top to bottom, mainly by the USRSA and the manufacturers, but other rackets like Badminton and Racquetball are typically strung Bottom Up.

    BTW, that's a nice machine he's using in the video. It's what I consider an all around machine. Unlike the Babolats that are mainly designed for Tennis, and you need to buy a kit to string badminton.
     
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    These guys are great, the fastest ones i've seen weave the mains before they put it on the machine. Most of us who string tennis racquets can't do this but I promise you these guys would suffer just as much with an 18x20 blade 93 with full poly.
     
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    i'm asking Paul if he really meant what he typed because i believe he meant to say, "Except for TENNIS racquets, the right way is to string bottom up." i know badminton racquets are supposed to be strung bottom up. and if you agree with Paul, you are also saying that badminton racquets should be strung top down.
     
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    I think by me including the comma after "badminton" lead to a different meaning to what I was trying to say. In response to the OP stating "Turns out about the same as stringing a tennis racquet", my statement was to confirm that its mostly the same except you string bottom up on a badminton rqt.

    Sorry if this was confusing. Hopefully we've all on the same page now.

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    you're right indeed! we're all on the same page now. :)
     
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    Maybe Paul's English is different from our English. :confused:
    I read Paul's reply is correct, or at least interpreted as a continuation of the OP's statement. My reply to his statement was also a continuation of his reply.

    Does that make sense?
     
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    Yes, I speak proper English ;-)

    Yes, I was replying directly to the OP statement etc.

    Regards

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    Absolutely Smashing!
     
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    Heres a video on stringing badminton racquets. May be you can string the same way, don't even need a machine.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilxl82y2uTA
    They said a young person can string 100 racquets/ day, for 700/ week for a total of $22.00,
     
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  15. BlxTennis

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    May be he can weave so fast on the crosses is due to low tension(24lbs) on badminton racquets. I certainly can not weave that fast on tennis racquets especially getting close to the end. I have not tried to string badminton racquets yet. I would have to get badminton fixed clamps for my stringer if I want to try which will cost me $100. I do have two Yonex Carbon racquets that sitting in the closet needed to re-string like 15yrs ago and have not play competitively in close to 20yrs so probably not worth it.
     
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    You don't have to use fixed clamps for badminton, unless you plan on stringing a lot of badminton rackets. You can use badminton flying clamps for the crosses and fixed clamps for the mains. Badminton flying clamps are less than $20 for a pair. Though I heard Yonex flying clamps are better. If you do want to buy badminton fixed clamps, and you own a Gamma, Alpha, Eagnas, or similar machine. I highly recommend the Prince style Dual Clamps, available from Watdon or Arfaian. (Both from Europe) For about $70 shipped.

    Dual Clamp on the right. Eagnas on the Left.
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  17. BlxTennis

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    Thanks Lakers4Life. Looks like the fixed clamps I have is 11.5mm from Eagnas.
     
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    It's 12.00mm, Gamma, Pros's Pro, Alpha, SP and Eagnas are the same.
     
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    Is 12mm referring to the post on the base and not the clamp itself? I just pull the clamp off and measured it and it reads 11.5mm
     
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    Sorry, it's 12.00 mm i.d. of the base clamp. I've measured the posts and they are usually, 11.95 ~ 12.00mm o.d. with a digital caliper.
     
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    Thanks. That makes sense. So if I get a set of these 12mm dual clamps, I can use them for either tennis or Badminton.
     
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    It's a great clamp. They are as wide as the Eagnas clamps but have 5 teeth. Before getting these clamps, I was using Gamma Flying clamps for the crosses, which were not too bad to use.
     
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    Mad dog you are absolutely correct, and we all agree with Paul.
     
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    Strangely enough low tensions dont necessarily make it easier to weave as they would be sloppy and give little resistance to moving. I like to think that there is an optimum string & tension to help produce the fastest stringing speeds, but that's another discussion.

    As for clamps, Yonex produce some excellent floating clamps that you can use, and are a lot cheaper than buying new fixed clamps. http://www.apolloleisure.co.uk/default.cfm/sect.3/manu.10

    Hand for those strings who rarely do badminton racquets.

    Regards

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  25. jim e

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    You may want to re check your statement, as if I recall a while back a poster here Steve Huff had to have eagnas clamps re machined to fit his alpha machine as the clamp size was different, and if thats correct, then your statement would not be accurate.
    Maybe Steve will see this and let you know.
     
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    Very fast!

    A couple of other points from a person who has strung tennis, badminton, and racquetball racquets. First, I'm not very fast.

    When I've strung badminton, they've all had shared string holes. This slows stringing down. Anyone who has strung woodies in tennis knows this. Also, the string is very thin and soft which does make it easier to work with than natural gut or polys but it also is very easily twisted and tangled.

    I'm going to have to look for stringing technique videos of this guy or others like him before I take on another badminton racquet. They usually take me nearly twice as long as the most difficult tennis racquet.

    That's my 2 cents.
     
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  27. Lakers4Life

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    Alpha maybe a slight exception. I recall someone saying it used 12mm posts as well. I have a friend with an Alpha Axis Pro, I can ask him to check the actual size. Babolat Star 2 - 4 also have a 12mm hosel.
     
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    It has been said that the US and the UK are two nations separated by the same language.
    Carry on.
     
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    Most proficient stringers can string just as fast, or even faster. (I think current fastest stringing of a tennis racquet is sub 8 min.)

    Let's not get carried away.
     
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    wow 15min for badminton is insane. i am at about 17min for tennis
     
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    Yeah, I am going to get the Yonex floating clamps for the crosses and give it a shot.
     
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    Yeah, I had always assumed badminton racquets would take at least twice amount of time comparing to tennis racquet. That's what kept me away from stringing my own badminton racquets in the pass.
     
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  33. Lakers4Life

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    I'm not in a rush to string a badminton racket. It's me about 20 mins to pre lace and 15 mins of tensioning. There is badminton club that open near by and they charge $8 labor plus string, all done on a Yonex ES5Pro. I send my client to them instead, as it's not really worth my time to string badminton rackets. Also badminton clients tend to be on the cheap side, and I already have my fill of cheap clients. I can do two tennis rackets in the time it takes me to do one badminton racket.
     
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