Andy Murray is lying about his back surgery?

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  1. kevo82

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    Andy Murray had a surgery at L4-L5 low back on 23 September, 2 weeks after the surgery started the rehab, and 3 months after the surgery played tennis.

    I read this article where Andy said:

    ‘I don’t want to go into my medical history, it wasn’t a disc thing but there were a few issues with my back. All the things I like to do away from the court, like playing football, go-karting, golf and other sports, I wasn’t able to do.

    There is no other issue in the lower back that needs a microdiscectomy, only a disc herniation.
    On the other side, I find that coming back after only 3 months after a back surgery, is pretty soon if it was a microdiscectomy surgery.

    Today he lost to Florian Mayer at Doha, and he called the physio to put an ice bag on the lower back.

    I asked him a couple of times on Twitter about his back surgery but he never answered.

    Is he lying, to take attention off his injury and avoid other questions, like Nadal does?
     
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  2. El Diablo

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    Has anyone ever known Andy Murray to "take attention off his injury"?
     
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    lying...why would he don't see the point
     
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  4. kevo82

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    The same reason why Nadal does it maybe, when he says the knees are fine, and after that he is out for seven months.

    Or maybe he has no clue about what surgery he had.
     
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  5. Mr.Lob

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    He's lying about his surgery that he had because of a back injury? Where is the lying exactly? Young top athlete's generally recover much faster than the normal humanoid.
     
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  6. kevo82

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    Yes, he is the iRobot.

    I understand that he made an über rehab at Chelsea, but a back surgery is a back surgery.

    Some never recover fully from this surgery but some very quickly.
    But if he made a minimal invasive surgery, it was micro discectomy to release the pressure off the nerve root that gave the pain.

    He said it wasn't a disc thing, and I don't understand what else it could be. It's either the herniated disc solved by microdiscectomy, or some inflamatory process that I don't think it's solved by surgery.

    I think that ge definitely had a microdiscectomy, for a disc thing.
    He may not know medical terms though, so then, yes, it's not lying.
     
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  7. MethodTennis

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    Any actual qualified doctors on here as opposed to eDoctors
     
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    if he never plays the same ever again,, that is OK. He WON Wimbledon for his country. his Job is Done
     
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  9. tennisblog365

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    I think he is not lying. Actually, he made the surgery, because Ivan Lendl advised him to. Ivan Lendl suffered for 15 years, if my memory serves me correct, because of his back, so he didn't want Andy to have the same problem, so they took a precautionary step and made the surgery.
     
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  10. kevo82

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    What surgery do you think can be made at the back? It can only be disc surgery if it's minimal invasive.

    Discectomy. A bulging or "slipped" disc, may press on a spinal nerve and cause back pain. In a discectomy, the surgeon removes all or part of the disc. A discectomy can be done through a large incision or through a smaller incision using tools from outside the body. A discectomy may be part of a larger surgery that includes laminectomy, foraminotomy, or spinal fusion, but those are more invasive.

    Other type of back "surgery" is that IDET crap, that it's not succesful anyway, but it was not the case, because it's not made under general anesthesia.

    So you tell me what surgery can be made for the back that does not involves the disc.

    I think he has no idea what type of surgery he had.

    I had the same surgery and after 3 months I was recovered but only after one year I was playing without pain, and not everytime. I admire that he is back so soon, but it will take a while to recover 100%
     
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    ummm no, he is not lying about having had surgery
     
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    A person can undergo a minimally invasive lumbar decompression for spinal stenosis where the narrowing the spinal canal can also be the result of a non-disc issue.
     
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    I also thought that, but this is more invasive. I don't know for sure.
     
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  14. RogueFLIP

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    You can have minimally invasive surgery to remove bone spurs. Also some facet joint issues can be addressed the same way.
     
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    So you are saying that, on his back, Andy is lying?
     
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  16. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    ... why are people even arguing about this?
     
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    Because it is easier than going out and practising to improve their game of tennis.
     
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    Got some new info. Indeed, it wasn't a disc problem, he had surgery to have shaved off a piece of bone from vertebra, to free the nerve.

    That explains the fast recovery, but also means that it could have been a more invasive surgery than the micro discectomy.

    Nobody is arguing, and you should try to speak only when you are sure about that, gregor.b.
    You have 1038 posts on this forum, I have only 230...I don't know who is practicing more in the gym and tennis court, and who is wasting time writing nonsense.

    Personally, I am directly interested, because I had back surgery, and I strugle to get back to tennis. But in my case it was a disc issue.

    I am glad to see Andy back so fast, and I dig him even more now, because I know how hard and frustrating is to work to get healthy again.
     
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  19. millicurie999

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    Well, you started this post with an accusatory tone. You can't blame others for being a little antagonistic in their responses.
     
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  20. kevo82

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    I started this post with a question...
     
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  21. Tonyr1967

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    Perhaps English isn't your first language but the order of the words do not make this a question, even with the question mark.

    Is Andy Murray lying? Not Andy Murray is lying. The latter is a statement NOT a question.
     
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  22. vantageboy

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    for those that can help me

    i had L2/3 laminectomy and discectomy on 12/27--problem is the femerol nerve in my right thigh is weak/numb.neurosurgeon says the nerve regenerates an inch a month. is tennis possible once the strength and feeling come back? thank you for responding.
     
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  23. RogueFLIP

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    Yes it's possible to return to tennis. Advice you get some physical therapy.
    Best interest to consult with your surgeon before resuming tennis actitivies.

    Good luck.
     
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