Andy Murray: "I've fallen out of love with tennis"

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  1. Rhino

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  2. dropshot winner

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    I'm not surprised, his body languages in the past few weeks has been very poor.

    It's not surprising that losing the Australian Open final deflated him. He started the match with a lot of confidence and high hopes, and then he got spanked.

    The young guns have issues with working so hard and still getting second best, happened to Djokovic in 2008 and now to Murray.
     
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    Mind you, according to his book, Agassi hated tennis the whole time, and that didn't stop him winning 8 slams.

    Having said that, Murray is no Agassi.
     
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    He sounds like Jankovic. I remember her saying those words not too long ago.
     
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    I do think that Murray will get over this low and win a few slams in the next 5-6 years.

    IMO young Murray (the one that beat Nadal in 08 Us Open and 10 AO) is better than young ballbashing Agassi.
     
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    In the case of both Djoko and Muzza the TKO of Federers game in Slams prove they are understudies still.
    They talk tough but when push comes to shove they get crushed by Roger.
    That then is either gonna make them humble and see what needs to be worked hard on or they go into the state of mind they both are in at the moment.
     
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    The article had an interesting take on his pressure though. They keep touting him left and right and then blaming him in the next breath. Guess him and Djoker have to learn how to ride the crests a little better. It's hard being on top.

    I still think he will win some slams. There's (almost )always a dark period before a breakthrough.

    Go Murray!
     
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    He can go join Vaidisova than there would be tons of people who would love to be where he is it.
     
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    Agreed. Thing is, Agassi could still play incredible tennis while hating it. Murray apparently cannot.
     
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    Hope this is temporary
     
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    wouldn't mind if these is forever unless he comes back with the agressive style he had back in 2006-07
     
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    He's acting like a whiny spoiled brat.
     
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    I don't..............
     
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    Why?

    There are 20 slams that can be won in the next 5 years alone. Do you really think Murray won't win a single one of them?
     
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    He was the best player in AO 2010 right up until his collapse against Federer
     
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    Because I dont!...........
     
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    Far from a collapse. Federer played insane at times and Murray had some decent numbers. It was not like Murray couldn't hit a ball into the court (like Federer in some of his losses to him).
     
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    Come on - you can't compare Murray to Agassi yet...really.
     
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    Interesting reasoning....
     
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    100% agreement.
     
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    nope, he wont win a single one of them.. of them 20 you speak, 5 of them are unattainable to him for sure.

    that leaves 15, thats 5 for federer, 3 for nadal, 2 for djokovic and 5 the others like jmdp, and the younguns yet to be heard of yet.
     
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    Many players go through a stage like this. It will take some soul searching and some good wins to get over this, but I have no doubt that it will pass.
     
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    Fair enough, still disagree though.
     
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    I'm sorry, but Djokovic will never win another slam.
     
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    Playing Federer in a Slam final when you have never won one is the most difficult thing to do mentally, but he clearly collapsed. I still think that he will be able to bounce back. Murray could be the kind of player who takes some time to win a GS, then things become easier.
     
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    It's hard to be a tennis player in the UK. One moment you're the Great Hope for the nation, then when you don't live up to the expectations of the nation, your are crap. It's as if the country owns you and your career,

    Henman must have gone through hell, look at how John Lloyed is being villified because the UK lost in the last Davis Cup.

    No wonder Murray is disillusioned and losing interest in playing.

    The nasty tabloids are parly to blame, as is the general mentality of the tennis scene in the UK ( upper class twits) is to blame as well.
     
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    djokovic is no more steaky a player than safin. he will melt down 85% of the time, but if he shows up in full form he can win.
     
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    Yeah I remember last year after he won Queens he was touted as a hero, going to win Wimbledon for sure, and so on. Then he got defeated by an on fire Roddick in the semi's, and suddenly "same story, different player" and how he's such a disappointment and so on. I just can't understand why the press is like that here.

    As for David Lloyd, I believe that Britain has one player in the top 100, and that's Andy Murray, who didn't want to play Davis cup. I mean c'mon people, you need two or three really good players to win at Davis cup, not just one. He had nothing to work with, there are no good players in the UK. Look at Spain, they have Nadal, Ferrer, Verdasco, Ferrero, and so on, loads of top players, and that's why they do so well. Lloyd had nothing to work with, how the hell is he in any way to blame for that.
     
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    Poor Andy, that AO loss truly affected him, and not in a good way. I think he lost confidence in his game and that's why he's not having a blast out there on the court.

    Come on Andy, remember what the great one told you, you're too good of a player not to win a slam.
     
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    Also assuming Murray is healthy/in form for those 20, which he almost certainly will not be.
     
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    When was the last time he's showed up in full form? He's good as dead. Even with cakewalk draws he can't make it past the semi's.
     
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    yeah shame she never capitalized on her game
     
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    ...then Murray needs to "man up" and ignore the nationalistic wishes and/or emotional nonsense of others and become single-minded. It's his career, not the fans' career, so in quick fashion, give the public the giant middle finger and start to manage his career (win or lose) for himself, because in the end, when he's an older man, he will need to be comfortable with his decsions--and he'll never attain that comfort playing for the long-lost glory of whiners.
     
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    Darn, i feel for the guy after reading the article.

    Hey, you don't need to be sorry for that, lol. :)
     
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    I think Murray's extremely talented but there's no golden tennis bible that states all players must be perfectly-rounded, balanced individuals.

    I think he's great, not just because of his skill, but because he also has some flaws. He's human.

    It isn't as simple as 'manning up'. None of us here have any idea what goes through his head, what psychological quirks he may have.

    It isn't as black & white as: Player has x talent, if player doesn't achieve y with x talent, player = failure. Only the simple-minded and shallow ever have that view of sportsmen & women.

    When he does eventually win a slam, I'll be cheering more than anyone. Not just because he deserves to, but because he clearly has some other issues that have an impact on how he approaches the game, and therefore represent a constant hurdle to him.

    I wish people here opened their minds a little bit.
     
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  36. Morrissey

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    Is it too early to say that Murray and Joker are done? I won't. But let's just play devil's advocate and say that if these 2 guys only amount to 1 or 2 slam titles by the end of their careers will we look at this era as a competitive one? I say Del Potro wins 2-3 slams and ends up being the next best player outside of Nadal & Fed.
     
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    Murrays loss is called Karma. That is what Andy gets for talking shizzle about Federers titles and how Nadals are more important.

    Plus its hard to have a positive attitude when you loose often.
     
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    Tell that to Andy Roddick ;)
     
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    He basically feels this way because he, although won't say it upfront, doesn't care about these events as much as he cares about the slams. So he may not push himself if he isn't able to beat an opponent at these events, however, at a slam, he will try what ever he can.

    Who cares about losing at Indian Wells and Miami, if that results in him winning Wimbledon or US open or both. Good attitude.
     
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    he does manage his career for himself, he and his family have made some brave decisions, such as his move to spain and his split from brad gilbert, and i'd say each one has been vindicated by the progress he's made.

    but these kinds of interviews give greater insight into something that has always been apparent on court- a sense of entitlement. he hates losing in a way that suggests he's a negatively motivated player- he fears losing, rather than loving winning. when he misses a ball his body language is awful, as if he wants to let everyone know that he should have made the shot he's just missed, that he somehow has been deprived of making it by something outside his own skillset. he has to man up indeed, knuckle down and stop giving interviews that demonstrate how far he still has to come mentally to win a slam.

    i'm not saying he'll never win one though. it's just that at the AO federer was absolutely incredible against him. it'll need a minor but significant attitude change for him to take the next step.
     
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    People are reading too much into this interview. Murray doesn't feel that way in reality. Federer said some time around this time last year, "Thank God the hard court season is over" and has won 3 out of the last 4 slam titles since then. There you go.
     
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    Murray is a spoiled brat. Seen it plenty of times on TV, in interviews, and in person when I go to the Sony Ericsson every year. He’s a sore loser in matches, and I’ve seen him kick and whine right outside the locker room too.

    He’s got talent, but his problem is that he bought into the media’s hype and believed he was the next great thing. I’m sure he’s at a low point because for the first time in his career he made a true sacrifice (by skipping the holidays and training in Miami….though I wouldn’t call south beach in December that much of a sacrifice) and he still didn’t get the ultimate reward he was seeking. It happens, and true champs learn to swallow that pill and that life still goes on.
     
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    Sounds like Murray is at a crossroads... either he'll pull it together or deicide this isn't what he wants to do. He is human afterall and is entitled to have the same types of thoughts that most "normal" people have.

    I can't say I'm 100% always in love with my job either...
     
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    Did he actually say "I've fallen out of love with tennis" or is that just the title? I don't think it's a sign of impending doom that he's been unhappy on the court - as someone said above me, Roger had an unhappy few months on the court last year, and then he turned it around. I do feel sorry for him taking such a beating: he's still just a 22 year old guy, trying to figure himself out, no need to kick him while he's down.
     
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    He lost, and whenever I lose, I don't especially love the sport either...
     
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    Physical burn-out equals poor turn-out.

    ...and he is in the Federer-Nadal Era. If he ever wants to win grand slam tournaments, he will have to learn patience in this generation. See Borg-Connors-McEnroe.
     
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    I'm not a fan of Murray's but fighting through something like this will only make him stronger and a better play for it
     
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    The headline suggests more serious problems than the article itself.
     
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    I dont blame him, call of duty is so much better.
     
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