Andy Murray withdraws from French Open.

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  1. T-Noone

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  2. Homeboy Hotel

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    Murray keeps #2 ranking as long as Federer doesn't progress further than semifinal, I believe.
     
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    As expected.
     
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  4. romeo8880

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    Wise decision. I'm sure his fans will say the injury is real but most intelligent people know he's faking it to avoid playing any more matches on clay.
     
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  5. Hood_Man

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    Good for him, no need to risk further injury when he's defending 360 points, he can make those up later.
     
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    This RG is gonna suck.....
     
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  7. boredone3456

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    And now if Fed gets Rafa in the SF it will all be part of a conspiracy.

    Let's be honest...what were his chances of making his 4th consecutive final anyway? Slim and none.
     
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    That's sad. I know Murray isn't the best clay courter, but he is still one of the top players and it makes a grand slam much more entertaining to have all of them in the draw. He could have gone out in an early round, which would have resulted in a surprise upset and more excitement. Or he could have shocked everyone by making the final. Ferrer being in the top 4 instead of Murray just doesn't feel quite right. I'm pretty sure he'll make it to the semis quite easily and will then roll over (could be an easy or tough match) against the other top player.
     
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    If Djokovic draws Nadal in his half, I will retract everything that I have ever said about the ATP rigging draws.

    If he doesn't, the probability that the draws are rigged goes from 99.99% to 99.995%.
     
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  10. merwy

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    This. It's 50/50 obviously, but all those 50/50s add up and it's hard to believe that the draw can look the same way time and time again. I completely agree though, if Nadal and Djokovic are in the same half I will shut my mouth as well and take it all back.
     
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    I'm sort of down the middle. I agree it stinks Murray is not playing in some ways because all the top 10 should be there to make it feel like a major. He really tries on clay and he fights he's just not amazing on it. I was hoping Delpo or Tsonga would get him and maybe get a break and a major SF with some good play like Ferrer did last year. Murray was never going to be favored to make the final but your right him being out puts all the ducks into predictable looking rows.

    But at the same time...him being number 2 seed at the French bugged me to because he is just so...well..bad on clay compared to Rafa, Fed and even Ferrer. It just rolled off the tongue wrong. I know he has earned that number 2 spot this last year but still....on clay...well...it was like seeing Sampras as top seed at the french...you understand why but its just...wrong in some way.
     
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    Everybody is so impressed by Nadal's comeback that they want some of that too.

    I am quite sure Murray will spend this time training on grass to boost his chances to win his first Wimbledon.
     
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    He'll win Wimbledon:twisted:
     
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    The ranking is unimportant in this discussion.
     
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    Finally (albeit in unfortunate circumstances) the others are doing, what Nadal did for years: avoid tournaments, where you have little to gain at the expense of great efforts and the possibility to get beaten by your main opponents, and concentrate on the events, you have a chance of winning.

    Let us hope, that Murray's back problem can be solved and he is ready to roll, once the Wimbledon rolls in.
     
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  16. kalyan4fedever

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    Glad the mug retired he has zero chance here and hurt his confidence if he plays for the coming wimbledon
     
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    Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal
    Novak Djokovicvs David Ferrer
     
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    Much as it is said for Murray and I hope he is fit again soon, I do not beleive it is a major loss to the tournament as he is not really a top clay court player anyway, Ferrer is far more deserving of the number 4 seed!
     
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    Too bad that Murray couldn't have stayed in, and Nadal, Djokovic, and Ferrer were all in the same half, with Fed and Murray in the other.
     
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    Good news - its the last clay event we need to suffer. Grass comes after, a much more exciting GS, and then HC. Hope we get to see Nole, Murray and Fed duke it out and Nadal disappearing until the next clay season. Would be awesome! :twisted:
     
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    why would he avoid clay ? he's never has issues playing on clay before
     
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    This clay season has been horrible. Nole straight setting Nadal in the RG final would be hilarious though. :lol:
     
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    Murray sucks even more on clay than he already is so this doesnt matter at all subjectively. However it's gonna mess up the draw quite a bit
     
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    Not only doesn't it matter but it's even better for the draw given that Ferrer is a much better clay courter than Murray. So, Ferrer as the 4th seed is much more logical. Granted, Nadal should be #2, not Fed but that cannot be helped.
     
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    And yet Ferrer has only made one semi-final at RG, same as Murray.
     
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    Why go till ferrer, granollers says hi :)
     
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    Granollers? Oh yeah...wasn't that the guy who lost a set from being 4-1 up to an injured player clearly suffering with a serious back problem? ;-)
     
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    Why would Murray, with any question of injury, risk playing Roland Garros and jeopardizing his Wimbledon status?

    This is a no-brainer. If there's any risk, he has to withdraw from the slam that he has no chance to win in order to give himself the best chance at one he can win, one that is the most important to every tennis player, and doubly important to Murray because its in his home country.
     
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    About 5 yrs back I saw his serve, and immediately figured that he would have back issues when he hit ~28.. Came earlier than I expected.
     
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    Ferrer's never done that well at RG but he's better on clay in general (and he beat Murray at RG last year)
     
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    Saving himself for Wimbly then Cincy, smart move
     
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    Federer can be seeded #2 in Wimbledon if he manages to defend his points I believe because of the special seeding system.
     
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    I don't think it's that straightforward.

    If Roger makes semis he goes into the grass season 310 points behind Murray.

    If we adjust for 100% of the previous 12 months grass points (2600 - 1960) we see Roger with a 330 point ahead.

    But when we add 75% of the previous 12 months months (270 -970) we see that Murray would have a 370 point lead.

    This assumes neither of them wins a match at Queen's/Halle.
     
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