Andy Roddick - 2009 Wimbledon Champion?

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  1. tvp900

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    As hard as it is to believe, Roddick's coach Larry Stefanki believes he can take the title at Queen's Club AND Wimbledon. As far as I'm concerned, and I'm a HUGE Roddick fan, it's going to be a stacked draw this year

    1. Rafa Nadal
    2. Roger Federer
    3. Novak Djokovic
    4. Andy Murray
    And all of them have proved themselves champions. I think if his game continues to improve, he might be able to pull off the upset of the century and take the title. (Of course this is only the ranting of a Roddick fan) Here's the article

    http://www.andyroddick.com/match-updates/2009/04/23/andy-commits-to-queens/
     
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  2. bladepdb

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    I don't think it's possible. I love Roddick too and I root for him except when he's against Nadal, but there's a lot missing from his game.

    Firstly, his approaches are TERRIBLE. He makes himself look retarded at the net with the weak approaches he hits.

    Second, his serve is losing its juice. Even Taylor Dent was serving harder against Federer in Miami.

    Last, his forehand is nothing like it used to be. It used to be a tremendous weapon AND consistent. Now, it's ONLY consistent.

    That, for me, sums up why he can never win a slam again, very much to my dismay!
     
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  3. TennisLover17

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    Of course Stefanki's got to believe Roddick can do it. What kindof coach doesn't believe that his player can win a title at any given moment. I mean, I think he's possible of upsetting some top players, but I'm saying semi's tops for Roddick this year.
     
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    if he is going to win one this year is will prob be uso. but honestly i see him making the semis at Wimby this year. i think he can actually pull one upset and i hope for more but realistically i see only the one.
     
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    there is NOTHING wrong with his serves, he is mixing up his first serves to keep his opponents off blanace and it looks great to me.
     
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  6. tvp900

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    I have to disagree. His approaches only look like a five-year-olds when he plays Federer. Most of the time, they are quite effective. As far as his serve is concerned, he may be losing pace, but he isn't losing placement. He still gets his aces. His forehand is still a little loopy, but hes trying. I give him credit for that.
     
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    His serve is his biggest weapon right now, always has been. It's not doing what it used to do.
     
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  8. GameSampras

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    LOL...

    Another year goes by and people still actually believe Roddick has a snowballs chance in hell of ever winning his 2nd slam. :)

    When will people learn.. Roddick is just not that good of a player. Never was. And his game has more holes than a pin cushion that can be exposed at will by any great player.

    Roddick's been around what? 10 years or so? And he has one slam to show for it.
     
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  9. deltox

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    no your right, instead of 140+ on every serve now hes using an old pitchers move in baseball.. called a change up. one flat and hard, 2 flat and hard, then suddenly 20 mph slower and kicking high. its quite the effective weapon in tennis.
     
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    I agree, a coach has to believe in it no matter what. Other people however can have a more realistic approach to things.
     
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    http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/comm...orldtour.com/en/media/rankings/matchfacts.pdf

    You're right, it is working. He does currently have the highest aces and more importantly has one of the better 1st srv % & 1st srv pts won. In fact, he has some of the best service stats of the top 10.

    The number that stands out, then, is:
    - He has among the lowest % of Return Games won.

    This is probably the best trend to see why he has not produced great results this year in singles (other than AO SF). If he cannot break his opponent, he cannot win. Simple as that. So far his trend is...he cannot break his opponent. Therefore, he cannot win a major title, particularly a Slam title, where players like Nadal and Fed take their game up a notch.
     
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    Ok we don't need to watch tennis this year any more. It is all clear and explained to us by nice people on this board. We know that remaining 2009 GS champions will be:

    FO Hewitt
    Wimbledon Roddick
    USO Safin

    See you next year.
     
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  14. icedevil0289

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    Lol, what better way to prove that fed's rivals during the 04-06 era still have it in them.
     
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    Yes it would but everybody knows it won't happen (at least I hope people are aware of that :???:)
     
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    Never can tell with Safin. Remember his surge to SF last year at Wimby? :)
     
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    Unless you have this crystal ball that allows you too see into the future, then no, I don't think you or anyone else KNOWS what will and will not happen. That being said there is a really good chance hewitt, safin, and roddick, will not win the remaining 3 slams. Ofcourse I think it would be kind of cool and funny if all three did. I would be content with safin winning one slam before he left though.
     
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    The best tennis he will ever play again and it still wasnt even close to what would have beaten Federer or Nadal on grass, the only two really good grass courters at this time last year. This year with Djokovic and Murray probably improved on grass, and Roddick coming back into form, even more unlikely.
     
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    I don't need a crystal ball to see that Hewitt and Safin are in no state to win a slam, lol.
     
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    Since he has beaten Djokovic you think Djokovic will also not win?
     
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    One of my favorite vids of Agassi.

    The fact that Roddick lost to Agassi during his prime (03-05 for Roddick) while Agassi was on his way to retirement proves exactly why Roddick is not cut out for another slam :D
     
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    Since Djokovic beat Federer you think Federer will also not win?
     
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    Are you talking about Wimbledon and Safin? Or are you talking about Roddick? I don't know about Djoko, but he sure can't beat Nadal, Murray and Federer as well, so really it doesn't look so good for the title...
     
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    Here's my faithful stalker troll again :roll:

    According to everyone on these boards Federer will retire before RG '09

    That was supposed to be a sarcastic statement and I was actually supporting Djokovic...why do you have to take every statement with Djokovic in it to heart? Are you related to him?
     
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  25. icedevil0289

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    There are in no state to win a slam now, but that doesn't mean they won't be in the future. I definitely agree that the chances are slim to none, but I think safin is still capable of winning one. I like how your so confident though.
     
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    No way unless he becomes more aggressive. Nadal/Fed would move Roddick around the court like a chicken with its head cut off.
     
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  27. veroniquem

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    Safin is 29, he looks physically heavy and his level of play is slow and erratic, he's been out of it for more than 5 years. He's struggling to win 2 matches in a row. How can you think he's gonna make a comeback at this stage? I think it's more likely you'll be struck by lightning this summer!
     
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    Andy's serve may not have quite the juice it use to....but he's more consistent with it now and with more variety then he has ever had.

    I think that in a way that is sort of akin to Roger, Andy has not improved over the preceding 3 or 4 years and everyone else(IE, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray) etc HAVE improved and passed him.

    That said, maybe with Stefanki Andy CAN make some inrodes and catch up...and looking at his results from this year, you'd have to say there is a chance...
     
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    lol. Like I said chances are slim, but you never know.
     
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    I admire your optimism :)
     
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    ROFL!! try to make some room for taylor dent. :lol:
     
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    You got the Wrong Andy...
     
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    There is more chance of Navratilova coming out of retirement in her 50s and winning the singles title at Wimbledon than Hewitt or Safin ever winning a slam title again. Roddick has an outside shot to win a slam title again, but it would take a huge amount of luck to happen.
     
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    taylor is very inconsistant still.. he went out first round this week.

    Roddick has 2 chances each year to do his best in slams, Wim and USO.. i admit i dont see him winning a slam again, but if i gave a % based guesstimate id say he has about a 7% chance to win Wimb and a 10% chance to win USO.. both are long odds.
     
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    He only has a chance if he goes after his forehand. Otherwise he's gonna get torched.
     
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  36. icedevil0289

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    That's a first. Anyways, people are doubting if fed will ever win another slam, so the idea of safin, hewitt, or roddick winning slams are absurd, but to say that there is a 100% chance they won't be is another thing.
     
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  37. VivalaVida

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    Andy has a much better shot at winning the US open than any other major IMO.
     
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    That is for sure. I like A rod but he cann't keep up with the top three (maybe four if djokovic can keep it up)
     
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    Fed has been in slam finals for years. He's at a completely different level than Safin and Hewitt. You really can't compare them at all. (answer to icedevil's post)
     
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    I agree...you never know what will happen in tennis...cannot rule out anyone to make a comeback...unlikely but not impossible...in Nadal's words, "Nothing is impossible, no?" ;)
     
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    nadal vs roddick on grass is actually ALOT closer than you might think. in 08 with roddick not in todays top shape, he pushed a near peak nadal to the max in a 7-5 6-4 duel at queens club.

    Tournament London / Queen's Club
    Round S
    Time 87 minutes
    Winner Nadal



    Sevice Statistics Nadal Roddick
    Aces 7 14
    Double Faults 0 3
    1st Serve Percentage 73% (45/61) 64% (46/71)
    1st Serve Points Won 77% (35/45) 73% (34/46)
    2nd Serve Points Won 75% (12/16) 52% (13/25)
    Break Points Saved 100% (4/4) 71% (5/7)
    Service Games Played 11 11
    Statistics on Return
    1st Return Points Won 26% (12/46) 22% (10/45)
    2nd Return Points Won 48% (12/25) 25% (4/16)
    Break Points Won 28% (2/7) 0% (0/4)
    Return Games Played 11 11
    Statistics on Points
    Total Service Points Won 77% (47/61) 66% (47/71)
    Total Return Points Won 33% (24/71) 22% (14/61)
    Total Points Won 53% (71/132) 46% (61/132)

    not exactly the blowout you spoke of.

    roddick had a bad day with first serves in that match also. no excuses of course, but it was very close as even the stats show, nadal had to save quite a few break points.
     
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    I could not agree more. First of all his ONLY Slam that he ever earned was a fluke (if only Nalby was not a mental midget when it got tight).

    Now Roddick has a hard time to beat any of the Top 4 Players (minus Djokovic). So he's bound to meet any one of them if he ever thinks he can go deep.

    The chances for Roddick to win another Slam are as good as someone who wins the lottery on any surface.
     
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    another new guy who knows sooo much. watch tennis, then post, dont be a hater.

    federer is the one who keeps taking roddick out.. murray also has a great record against him.. nadal and djokovic do NOT have a dominating record on him.. better look up some facts before spouting trash.


    roddick v nadal at IW this year was fairly close with both breaking the other several times.

    obviously nadal would be favored over him in any event, but on hardcourts and grass andy has a chance whether you wanna acknowledge it or not.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, Andy has a chance I agree but only if he gets a lucky draw.

    He has improved I will give you that but when he looses to guys like Gasquet, Tipsarevic @ Wimbledon, you have to ponder yourself of his chances afterwards.
     
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    you spewed lottery chances. when in reality its more like a 15% chance to beat nadal, 10% murray, 1% federer, and 50% djokovic on grass and even better chances on nadal at the USO.

    he just always ends up in feds draws who he has some unknown mental block about.

    you gotta watch what you say on these forums, people like me love to use stats to back up their claims. always have a link if you wanna make a statement or some kinda info to back up your claims. enjoy posting here but always speak truthfully ;)
     
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    Alright thanks for the tip deltox. I'll try to do some researches when I'm trying to prove a point. But it's just that every year some people still believes that Roddick can snatch another Slam when he should of done it years ago back in his prime (it just sort of happened that he never figured how to beat Federer on a regular basis).
     
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    this year, unlike years past, roddick has actually gained a step from previous years. his fitness is insanely developed and he seems to have a new mentality. his strokes show variety this year and he is actually learning more about strategy (although not applying it well at times) after 7+ years on the tour. his chances this year are as good as 03-04 in somes opinions and i personally have NEVER seen him with his current mindset.

    only agassi has ever made this late of a career push.
     
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    All you people that say roddick's forehand is no longer a weapon and he pushes the ball need to watch this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsMnIm4JQI Its a few games vs nadal being discussed from queens last year. You can see from just the clip that Roddick hits the ball with alot more authority than he does the rest of the year on HC/Clay. He always has, when grass season rolls around its like he senses that play will be faster and he can penetrate more with his shots. I think honestly hes got a shot, hes pretty much got at even chance against djoker and current fed even. The only people I think are slighted with better chances are Nadal and Murray but even then on grass its minimal. I wouldnt worry about him losing to a "hot" Gasquet or Kholshreiber-like player because of his current excellent form. It took Gasquet 5 sets of smoking shotmaking to beat Andy, and even then it was a very close match. Truth is andy's veteran experience really helps him, and on grass its incredibly more so. Wimbly 09, Roddick is a definite one to watch.
     
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    I say out of the top 4 roddick is the 5th favourite to win a slam, how is that low chances or bad at all??? u guys make it sound like he has no chance at all... i actually put djokovic and roddick in the same boat with winning a second slam. They both make it to about the same lvls in tourneys with djokovic better in clay and roddick better in grass.
     
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    Roddick is done DONE done in the slams. give up hope on him now. If he wins Wimbledon, I will streak around Old Dominion University and post the pics here and on facebook. That's how sure I am that he will not win Wimbledon.
     
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