Andy Roddick and clay

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  1. baseliner

    baseliner Professional

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    1. Andy is one of the world's premier clay court players as evidenced by his 2 straight titles and one other loss in the finals at the US Clay Court Championships.
    2. Andy is a terrible clay court player as evidenced by his first round losses at the French Open last 2 years in a row.
    1 or 2? Feel free to comment on the differences between read (real) clay and green (artificial or man-made) clay. And yes I know Paris is played on crushed brick which is "man-made."
     
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  2. jmckinney

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    I think that Andy is a good clay court player. He has the speed and power to play on clay. His serve is above average on clay although it is slowed down. I think he will be someone to watch at the French this year. His first year he had a good run and was injured. The only question is if he can hit 30-40 balls in a row and have the patience to play against the Spaniards and other clay court specialists without going for winners to early in the point.
     
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  3. Ballmachine

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    The reason that European players are better than American players on clay is because of mobility. European players slide into their shots, and American players slide after they have hit a shot, to stop. Huge difference. Just watch Coria carve people up on the dirt and you will understand.
     
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  4. python

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    The truth lies somewhere in between. Roddick is the best American player on clay along side Andre Agassi. That said, he's a dark horse at best to win the French Open despite his #2 ranking and previous semifinal showing at Rome. Rationally, guys like Ferrero, Coria, Moya, etc. have got to be favored over Andy, because their movement on clay is better.

    The clay courts at the Houston Westside Club where the US Clay Court Championships is the exact same material used at Roland Garros. They went to great expense to import the crushed bricks from France and even had a consultant come over to help contruct the courts. Houston's climate is quite a bit more humid than Paris' and I've been told the court can play a little slower, so there's an effort to speed it up if need be during tournament time.
     
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  5. Free_Martha

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    He's in-between. He's no Courier on clay but he's also no Sampras on clay.

    He can surely play on it but I don't see him winning the French Open soon, unless some disease wipes out the Spaniards and Argentines.

    However, I fully expect him to get past the first round (at least) at Roland Garros this year. If he doesn't, well, that'll be the embarassment of the year.
     
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  6. Rabbit

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    I agree with the other assessments. The big difference on clay is knowing how to play on it. Andy's power game translates well on hard courts, but an opponent who is patient and just gets his big strokes back is going to beat him more often than not.
     
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  7. vadan25

    vadan25 Guest

    Roddick's recent success at the US Clay Court championships can also be attributed to the field. This year, and probably the past two years, the field is distinctly American. Look at the final 16 of the French Open last year (Robredo, Kuerten, Costa, Clement, Ferrero, Mantilla, Gonzalez, Nieminen, Verkerk, Schuettler, Novak, Moya, Coria, Zabaleta, Saretta, and Agassi ). Guess how many of them are playing in Houston this week..... none. There are 2 bigger clay court tournaments going on right now in Spain and Portugal, and the better clay court players are their.

    So, while Roddick is one of the better clay court players in the USA, he is not one of the best in the world. I think he'll definitely have better results this year. He seems a more patient player than he did last year, and I doubt you'll see him play with the sense of urgency he demonstrated on the clay last year. He seems more willing to grind some points out.
     
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  8. PureCarlosMoyaDrive

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    He's alright on it, but no great. He'll make R16 at most at RG this year, I'm thinking the R32 when he runs into some big clay courter. They can rally better than him, all have pretty big strokes or at least one blast stroke, can run all day, great endurance, and much like Ballmachine said, they can slide a million times better. They will beat him for sure.
     
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  9. SonicSpeed

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    He's not a top 20 player on clay but he's decent. Not enough to win Roland Garros but enough to win some rounds on it and win tournaments like U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships.
     
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  10. PureCarlosMoyaDrive

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    Today's final showed what happens to Roddick. Too many errors, other guy hits winners, Roddick can't return well enough, and he just gets impatient. Now Haas was playing really well today, but there are so many who will play just as well as Haas. Roddick will do better on clay than last year, but still not very good
     
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  11. SonicSpeed

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    Roddick was fatigued and made uncharacteristic errors. It isn't an excuse for his loss but he could have played much better.

    Conngrats to Haas!!
     
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