Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by cluckcluck, Feb 13, 2014.
From his power shares series with McEnroe tonight. I guess Babolat dropped him?
Well there wasn't his autograph anymore on the new colour of the Propulse 4 this year. The Bab' official in the racquet section said that "maybe" there would be a name change for the PD Roddick. I guess it will just become a PD "Tour".
However, I think it just may be his good old PDTeam+ Swirly but blacked out due to a lack of contract.
i hope there were more people in the stadium than it looks. how did he do against mac?
It amazes me with the lack of loyalty of players, all the money Babolat, Reebok and Lacoste paid him over the years all the warm fuzzy corporate events etc...and still he goes on court without branding, he is not the first ex player and wont be the last, it's a shame.
definitely PD Team - look at bumper guard!
It's business, why should he be loyal. They made a lot of money off his name. The door has to swing both ways
exactly. he makes some good amount of money BUT babolat made/makes a lot more out of his name.
That's why they paid him.
I do not pitty Andy.
But they made tons of money with writing his name on crappy rackets, produced for one buck per racket in China by children hands.
And after his career they are too cheap to give him some breadcrumbs still.
They are not even pretending they have a feel for tradition.
you got it!
Really $1 a racquet, made by children?
I am guessing you have concrete evidence of this that you can share and are not just speculating all over yourself?
The reason Babolat got popular in the US in the early 2000's was because of Roddick. Remember, the APD exists only since 2004/5, which is pretty recent. Why do you think they gave him a Signature frame and Signature shoe line? of course Nadal became a more successful endorsee years after, but that's another history.
he was loyal while he had a contract.
wtf are you going on about?
it's just a racket, which he was PAID to endorse.
no payment = no endorsement.
not sure why it's blacked out, but who cares.
Roddick is a tweener, has no business on either the ATP or Powershares tour.
I would guess it is backed out for the same reason I remove those dealer license plate frames from my vehicle immediately after purchase: I'm not getting paid to advertise for them, so why in the world would I drive around promoting their business/product?
yeah, i understand. just seems kinda odd. it's a statement for these folks.
the first time i remember a blacked out racket was Martina N. playing the max 200g but i think she was under contract with Yonex still.
i guess, at least they aren't "promoting" a frame that was "custom" anyhow.
I guess I don't understand why black out the whole frame, Just don't put the stencil on it ifs that big of a deal.
FOX Friends injected that into his head that everything made in China is done by children for 50 cents per day...
Fortunately, China is the worlds second economy today, and things are so different since Fox idiots did their research last...
Out of curiosity, where do you fall on the political spectrum? I can't tell by your posts.
Maybe Babolat provided him the racquets but no longer decided to paint them anymore for him?
Just waiting for the current PDRs to drop way low in price to scoop a stock of them. love the frames.
Did anyone think that maybe they asked andy to test new technologies ? They may have blacked out both his org frames and the new model and asked him blindly which racquet plays better .... food for thought
Andy, always a follower. Trying to look like Roger.
Not to be excluded considering the next PD racquets should be out next year. But then, why no stencil?
This said, I wonder what is the string in the mains of his frame. Doesn't seem to have the distinctive yellow colour of PHT. Might also be a deceptive lightning; the picture is quite dark overall after all. He still seems to be using gut in the crosses though.
EDIT: Photos of the PowerShares Series matches. Features Courier, McEnroe, Scud and Roddick. Notice how the buttcap of Andy's frame has the previous Babolat logo. Still sporting the previous colourway of the Propulses. The mains do not look like PHT.
Honestly, if there is anyone who seems to lack loyalty it's Roddick. I'm sure he was paid handsomely while he was on tour. But by the time he was halfway through his career, hardly anyone was buying the racquet because of him - he who was known to lack touch, finesse, and towards the end of his career, even lost power from his groundstrokes. So Babolat chose not to pay him anymore after he retired and he makes a point to black out his racquet so that they don't get any "free" advertising? That strikes me as extremely petty. If he thinks that he still drives sales of that racquet then he's delusional.
Pete Sampras was waaaay more decorated than Roddick and he's using a blacked out frame.
Didn't Pete have lifetime contract with Wilson racquets? Kinda like Federer does. I wonder if he breached the terms when he came out playing with a Babolat Pure Storm .
LOL Then i wonder why they are not letting produce rackets in their home France.
Should be cheaper than in China.
We saw it with FOXCO.. They deliver the high priced a..le phone and their workers are jumping out of windows...
Babs made so much money with Andy´s name and with crappy products produced in sweat shops...and now Andy has to use blacked out frames...
Company with no class.
You don't have a particularly concrete grasp on how this whole 'endorsement deal' thing works, do you? I mean, by the same logic, you could argue that Babolat is the party lacking in loyalty here, considering that they practically built their North American market share on Roddick's back.
You are clueless.
WHy not France? Are you serious? French bread costs 5x in France over anywhere else in the world...
And your Foxconn comment is even dumber...
Sweat Shops? Have you seen the Bab/Head/Wilson/Yonex/Everyone Else factories in China? Have you seen the Foxconn factories in China?
Stop making fool out of yourself
I don't care about politics (any more). However, by accident, I ended up a few times on one of FOX channels and realized no matter what, I will stay away from the Republican side
LOL You said working in China is so great. Yes, sweat shops. "Bread costs"?
I saw the life quality of workers in china-based french factories. Workers sleep in the factory like drones. They hold back their urine for their shift (we do not talk about 8 hours LOL). They live like slaves.
Always fun to discuss with fanboys.
And of course chinese workers jump out of windows at FOXCO. You like your a..ple phone more - because of this fact?
Then i read about Babs behaviour to a loyal brand embassador like Andy.
They are just not loyal, have no respect for tradition, and let produce crappy rackets in sweat shops.
I like that their firm policy is consistent.
No need to be condescending.........muppet.
I think it was actually Moya who got them rolling.
Yeah. Out of loyalty and gratitude to Babolat, Roddick's descendants, should they become tennis pros or celebrities, must endorse Babolat products free of charge.
Yeah seriously. I'm not even that liberal but this type of thinking is endemic in sports. I don't particularly care about individual players or the companies but when a company/team drops/trades a player, it's too often understood as "just business" but when a player goes where the money is, he's not being loyal.
This is a business for everyone. Remember, Nike dropped Agassi and Agassi was even bigger for Nike. In fact, Agassi made Nike tennis. That's just how it is. No one is at fault here.
uneducated yes, funny...not really
Yeah...ton's of other current ATP players have 10 year streaks in the top 10, where they won a tourney every year, bagged a grand slam, and were finalist at Wimbledon multiple times!
LOOK AT THE WHOLE POOL OF PLAYERS FOOL...and you'll be hard pressed to find many as accomplished as Andy. More players are on the ATP than the top 4...and most would DIE to have Andy's career.
And this comment is not even coming from a die hard Roddick fan, just someone frustrated by idiots around here.
I guess you missed the 'North American' part of his post.
And you still haven't defended your free advertising strategy.
@MachiA. - you missed @dr325i's point - no factories in CHN pay well - they have plenty of people to recruit - there are buses and trains coming from the western part of the country with new recruits. And suicide rates are high in CHN - and may Asian countries - more people in that region choose to end their lives as opposed to EU, the Americas. The liberal media pounced on Foxconn because of their work for Apple. It's part of this Class Warfare strategy.
Posted yesterday on the ATP Champion's Tour website (yeah, seems Roddick is old enough to play on it). Add a pair of Gel Resolution 5 to the blackened out frame.
troll. Totally trolling.
I was always looking to buy one because of A-Rod - just for my collection I demoed a standard length the other day and I think I'm going to buy it. Andy wasn't as successful as he could have been. But that was due to the game being engineered to make his weapons and game not that great (slowed balls being made heavier, fluffier and bigger, courts being made out of plexi cushion instead of concrete etc). The game got engineered to nullify players like him, sampras, goran and basically big serving and s & v's down to create longer rallies. It was just bad luck and timing for him. Blake too.
Watch this vid -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4t7Bdlck-U - roddick could just blast people out. I can't find the full match, but that was him at his best. And don't anyone say the game needed to be slowed down because agassi and fed could still rally and beat him. The whole slowdown was a joke and now we're stuck at the rec level with the same lousy balls that rapidly sink to the ground that favour pushers. Ok thats my rant over.
Blacked out frames from ex tour players show no class at all. He is using a Babolat by choice so why hide the fact? Only to say hey I'm bigger than your brand because I'm so and so and I'm a bug deal. Next he will be walking in the streets drinking a can of blacked out coke.
Thats not how it works. Im not allowed to wear my work uniform for anything media related outside of work. We'll never know why he's chosen to do it.
So what's the racquet? Anyone know?
Read the thread more closely.
You mean he may have other sponsors that forbid him from "endorsing" another brand for free? I guess that's possible.....
I bet Andy was having often nightmares,
about a little girl called "My Lai" which had to write with her toes his name on crappy rackets in an asian sweat shop.
And after Babs made tons of money with his name and soul pain, no breadcrumps for Andy anymore.
When my race horse is slowing down and losing after it earned me tons of money - i do not call Burger K.ng for sending their truck!
Not in the USA……….
What ? does he need a lighter more user friendly racket since he is old now ?
Possibly bring out his own line or travis matthew line?
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