Andy Roddick

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  1. 2ManyAces

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    Well, I guess now that we can post about A-Rod in this section of TT.

    Andy was my favorite player for nearly 2 years. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about his retirement, but I know for sure American tennis still has hope. He did a great job carrying American tennis, and also setting the stage for the coming American players.

    So now's the time to post about how you've watched A-Rod this last decade, and how you feel about the next gen of American tennis. I'll try to put a little video compilation of some of his career highlights.

    all luck to andy off the court now

    Match Point against Raonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka9yHTLnUHQ

    Funny Moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF_C7x78o8U

    Andy on Jonathan Ross (plenty of laughs here): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXeKdcX0WhI

    Career Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XikfNP-T-C0
     
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  2. A_ROD_FAN

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    Andy Roddick being my favorite player as well I am left with somewhat of a hole as to who my favorite player is now. I never really had a 2nd favorite and just always cheered for A Rod. I am wondering to you andy roddick fans who your going to cheer for now? Please don't say Roger... :/
     
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  3. FD3S

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    I used to hate him.

    Really, I couldn't stand his cockiness, one-dimensional game (oh, the irony now) that bloody visor... In the early days I was more than happy to watch Fed hand the frat-boy loss after loss.

    But then Roddick, unlike a lot of other athletes how have been humbled, didn't give up. He wasn't content simply to collect paychecks and be merely competitive - the man turned over so many rocks trying to stay relevant and improve his game, and to him a match was never over until the handshakes were done. He always gave credit to his opponent in the pressers, never made excuses, and was brutally blunt when it came to his own game, or anything he was ever asked about. Applying effort when talent simply didn't suffice - I empathized with that concept, especially in the early days of my tennis when the fundamentals were eluding me like no tomorrow.

    Of course, those same traits also caused him to be an ass to umpires and linesmen on court. Not cool, but part of the package. You take the good with the bad, unless you want to be one of those posters who ignore all of the good while harping on and on about the bad, and really - if they apply the same standards they did to Roddick to every other figure in their lives, public or private, they'd have serious issues finding friends or role models.

    A crapton of titles, a US Open, a Davis Cup, the backbone of American tennis for a decade and a career that 99% of the ATP would kill for. Only one thing to say now; well fought, Andy. Hell of a career.
     
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  4. 2ManyAces

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    I wholly agree.

    I plan to cheer for the next gen of American stars. I got to meet Jack Sock. He was cool. Seemed like a normal teen even though he's a touring pro!
     
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  5. A_ROD_FAN

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    Ryan Harrison seems alright, I like his play style and groundstrokes. Can't compare to Roddick though... :(
     
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    Yeah, but I do think Harrison's game will continue to mature more. he's playing pro-style tennis, ie coming to net etc
     
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  7. forzamilan90

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    Roddick was awesome!
     
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    Arod has much to be proud of amazing guy!!
     
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  9. Limpinhitter

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    Roddick seemed like a different player shortly after Federer became #1. When Roddick first became well known, his forehand was the biggest shot in the game. That forehand and his huge serve made Roddick the hier apparent to Sampras. But, somewhere along the line, he seemed to lose that power, and his forehand became more of a defensive loop than the bomb it was at first.
     
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  10. 90's Clay

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    I enjoyed his game around 2003-2004.. Its when he dumped Gilbert, and became some pusher and went through 50 coaches, it was all downhill from there

    Getting rid of Gilbert was the WORST thing he could have done
     
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  11. The_Question

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    Finally, he's done! No more of his antics! Hopefully Ryan Harrison will have no one negative to look up to, and starting to work on his game more.
     
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  12. scotus

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    When it comes to negativity, Harrison doesn't need Roddick. He is already a master of that domain.
     
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  13. slice bh compliment

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    Made using a widebody palatable.
    Visor, not so much.
    Ended a year at number 1. US Open men's singles champion.
    Had a great serve. Clutch passing shots. Ugly backhand. Not at home at net, but somehow made it work.
    Multiple GS finals.
    Davis Cup hero.
    Sarcastic and sometimes out of control.

    He will be a high-profile coach or commentator. Or both.

    Well done, Roddick. Not a fan, but...re5p3k, man. re5p3k.
     
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    He was a good man and a good player.

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  15. NikeWilson

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    He remember back in the early 2000's when he was a youngster, playing at the US Open.
    Roddick and Hewitt had or 3 epic US Open battles. The first 2 went to Hewitt, and the last 1 went Roddick's way. And then I think Roddick shortly went on to win the 2003 US Open title.
    He looked awesome then. And he became #1 in the world.
    Unfortunately, this other guy named Roger Federer came along and stole Roddick's thunder.
    Andy was never any true match for Federer.
    And quite frankly, Andy was still no match for Sampras and Agassi even while retired. lol.
     
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  16. FoldingChair

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    My little sister cried when she got home from practice and heard he was quitting the sport. Although I wasn't as devastated as she was, Roddick was my favorite player on the tour and he will indeed be missed in this household.
     
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  17. Limpinhitter

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    And, he had a monster forehand for about 4-5 years.
     
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  18. forzamilan90

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    I agree that he had a very powerful forehand earlier on in his career (his early WImbledon finals against Federer you can see it on display)..
    Where does his serve rank among the best ever? It's certainly one of the fastest and hard hitting, we're speaking in his prime.
     
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  19. Mustard

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    List of Roddick's coaches:

    Tarik Benhabiles (1999-2003)
    Brad Gilbert (2003-2004)
    Dean Goldfine (2005-2006)
    John Roddick (2006)
    Jimmy Connors (2006-2008 )
    Larry Stefanki (2009-Present Day)
     
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  20. WARPWOODIE

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    I would say it was consistently fast through his whole career....but unfortunately, it became too predictable. He did not develop a slice or kick serve for variety. And his backhand was not the best (there is a thread on this in the Junior section) as Agassi stated in an on air commentary. If he just worked on these elemental flaws, than I think he would not be just another "one slam wonder", but a career with at least 3-4 other grand slams.
     
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  21. bluetrain4

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    How is "official" retirement handled by the ATP? Seems like they simply remove the retiring player from the computer. Makes sense. But, does Roddick have to file some formal papers to make that happen.

    This is in contrast to players who don't really fully retire officially, maybe thinking they'll play again, and their ranking drops week after week.
     
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  22. Cesc Fabregas

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    Dean Goldfine and John Roddick were poor coaches.
     
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    Goldfine did a lot better with Todd Martin.
     
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    1. His kick serve was one of the best on tour
    2. He was only a few points away from 3-4 majors. It took incredibly bad luck not to bag at least one of those. His 2 strengths (serve/FH) were in fact really that good that he was one of the best players on the planet for a decade.
     
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    It's weird seeing Roddick in the former player section.

    Frankly, I am not ready for that yet.
     
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    I'm not sure anyone had a second serve as fast as his, maybe ever, but I was always surprised that it didn't do more damage. It seemed like most everyone was just able to block it back and neutralize the advantage.
     
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    well i'm not so sure about that,

    first of all, i couldn't stand the hype surrounding roddick 02..03.

    i personally always thought fed/nalby/safin/haas and scud were more talented...and personally looking long term saw titles.

    but back to arod...liked him alot...but sampras comparisons LOL

    tbh nalbandian was outplaying him before he injured wrist in 4th set
    and had another mental meltdown.

    2003 was a bum year in quality..safin/haas/pete all off tour.

    roddick took advantage of this so credit to him.

    at the end of the day i'm glad he won at least 1 slam...because fed did deny him a few times.
     
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    I have to agree with you. It's just so... wrong.
     
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    but it took incredibly good luck to get his only slam. cuts both ways.
     
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  30. tennisplayer1993

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    I've been a roddick fan forever. I feel like over the years he has definitely became more mature of a man. I still remember his childish antics on the court but I felt his evolution from turning pro in 2000 to retiring now has changed him into a more humble person. He was a very raw player back in 2000-2002. a guy with a big serve and a huge forehand but he had a weak backhand (which he had for the majority of his young career). In 2003, I was in awe when I saw him win his first grand slam. I personally thought he would have an Agassi type of career meaning he would lose a few grand slams and win his first later because of his one dimensionality (i'm a huge roddick fan but i wasn't delusional about his very narrow yet effective game back then). I'm still upset he got rid of Gilbert, I miss the power hitting Roddick used to bring. his 100 mph forehands along with 140mph-150mph first serves. I will always remember Roddick's warrior mentality of trying his best for example, the 2004 and 2009 wimbledon finals. Two matches that I believe he should have won. I miss the old roddick to be honest the one who wore reebok and hit the ball has hard as he could. Roddick was so so for a few years in 2005-2006. But I also noticed he changed his game a lot and had more variety with his backhand. But as everyone said, I could see he had limited talent but his consistency always kept him up in the top 10 for like forever. I love roddick but a lot of me thinks that if he kept Gilbert, that 2003 US open grand slam wouldn't have been his only one. I still believe he should have won at least one wimbledon (aka the 2009 match which the backhand volley messed up everything =/). To me, parts of Roddick's career is what-ifs. If he won the 2009 wimbledon, I don't think he would have retired this early. Ever since that match, his ability to stay at an elite tennis level dipped quite a bit in 2010-2012.

    Still my favorite player but since I know him since 2000 (been to two or three of his matches in the era of 2000-2002 at the us open). It's just a shame he couldn't follow agassi's footsteps and win 7-8 grand slams.
     
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    it did do damage. roddick could not back it up.
     
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    no he was playing his life out in the summer of 2003. had a 37-1 record. it wasn't luck he was just playing the best tennis of his life. he beat federer in that run and many good players. winning grand slams isn't based on luck.
     
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    he was lucky fed got knocked out early. he was lucky to beat nalbandian in the semis. he was lucky that usta favored him with scheduling. he was lucky that JCF was exhausted in the final for playing to much late in the tournament. but I agree with you. he deserved to be a grand slam champion. and he is.
     
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    yeah i have to admit if nalbandian didn't beat federer, that 2003 us open trophy probably would have been his. and if nalbandian won that semi match he would have won the whole thing.
     
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    Roddick had a monster second serve, but it was still a second serve. People like Federer could return it. His first serve was not only breathtaking for its brutal pace, but also because of its incredible consistency. Roddick would hit over 70% first serves a lot, often winning close to 90% of the points where he landed that first serve. Against the top guys, especially Federer, he should have just bombed that thing in on both serves. If you do the math, and I have, at 70% first serves and winning 85% of those points he wins more points than he does if he hits a second serve, where his winning percentage against guys like Federer is a lot lower. Also, the match is on his racquet at that point.
     
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    Except that you can guarantee that his second serve percentage bombing second serves would probably dip below that of his 1st serve, because of the inherent pressure involved with trying to make sure the ball lands in. So the math gets a bit trickier.
     
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    I agree there's a psychological aspect to it. But against Fed, after the the first ten or so straight loses, you'd think that Roddick would need to try something different. The two first serves, for Roddick, is a reasonable play.

    Listen to Agassi's thoughts on Roddick vs. Federer right before the 2007 QF match at the US Open. It starts at about 6:00 into the video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZFVQCfOQg

    Agassi is brutally honest.
     
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    I am almost totally hopeless that Andy will ever make a comeback. I'd put it at 5%, that said I think there is a much better chance then with Pete and Andre. Pete lost the desire all together and Agassi's body was beat to **** at the end there
     
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    Lastly, I'll add that IF Roddick DID make a comeback. I would be like the happiest person on earth and would probably fly almost anywhere in the world to get a chance to see him play one last time

    I did get to see him R.Williams in the 1st round of the open this year. I would fly home on thursday afternoon and Roddick would make his announcement when I was in the air.

    I was devastated, but happy I got to see him.
     
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    Even in that match where Andy was overweight pre-stefanki Roddick hit the FH with a LOT more authority.
     
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    BTW apparently it was Dean Goldfine that was behind Roddick losing the mother FH.... But I've never heard rationale behind it etc
     
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    yeah i remember that, i just feel brad gilbert knew how to handle roddick. ever since he became a lacoste player, he lost that forehand. it was still there in early 2005 (great example is the semifinal hewitt vs. roddick taht eyar in australian open)
     
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    ESPN Classic showing these matches tomorrow

    Roddick-El Aynaoui '03 AO
    Roddick-Federer '09 W
    Roddick-Ferrero '03 USO
     
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