Andy Roddick's Pure Drive GT Paintjob

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  1. jemsiter

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    You're welcome. Glad I can contribute to the board. Let me know what other questions you guys have (except to play with the roddick frames)
     
  2. dgoran

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    From what I gathered over the years is that Roddick plays with Swirly Pure drive team + which is stiffer and had 1 mm thicker beam at the throat area. I believe that Pure Drive Roddick was derived from that same swirly mold and they added cortex to that mold weighted it up a bit and called it a roddick.

    I have old Pure Drive team + and Pure Drive team + swirly and they do not play the same swirly is indeed stiffer.

    Certain things do not add up though:
    6 pts head light (strung) is what stock balance of Swirly team + and Pure Drive team + is .

    If one would add ONLY 5 inch tape at 3 and 9 that would amount to only 5 gr in the hoop area (+rubber band) which would counter balance the overgrip (6-7 gr) thus the balance would roughly remain 6pts head light.

    I did this to mine and the weight becomes only roughly 330gr 6pts head light. Where is 16 more grams of weight than?

    In my opinion it is hiding in custom handle and 12 o clock equally distributed otherwise it would be impossible to reach 6pts head light
     
  3. bdawg07

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    I believe that the "Cortex" on Andy's sticks is simply a paint job. There is no actual cortex to my knowledge.
     
  4. Ross K

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    Interesting... think I agree with what you deduce dgoran, specially re custom handle... lead @ 12 sounds right too.

    R.
     
  5. LPShanet

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    That is correct.
     
  6. TennisNinja

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    Nice pics!!!
     
  7. jemsiter

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    Roddick's frames have custom handles (and lead tapes under the custom mold). I am not sure but I believe there could be some lead under the head guard.

    The retail pure drive Roddick plus GT is heavier than the old pure drive plus... and interestingly after I add those lead tapes at 3 and 9, rubber band, and overgrip, it comes out to be very very close to Roddick's specs
     
  8. ronalditop

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    Could you check if his tournagrip is wrapped starting from the thick end? It seems like it because his handle looks pretty symmetrical, and when you wrap overgrips starting from the thin end, usually both sides look different.
     
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    It would be surprising if there wasn't lead up there- Just about all pros have lead under there.
     
  10. MethodTennis

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    we need to take one of these rackets to pieces to truely know. stick it ona rdc weigh everything that is taken off
     
  11. bdog

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    Thanks again jemsiter, very appreciated.

    So recap, take a Pure Drive plus (which is 300 grams), add 15 grams to the handle.....then it looks like about 4 strips of lead to the head which is about 5 grams, making it 320 grams? Add string which is about 15 grams, grip and rubber band are about 11 grams and you have 346 grams?

    And if you start with a GT Roddick plus (which is 315 grams to start), add 5 grams to the head making it 320 grams? Then add string, grip and band making it 346 grams?

    ....This all sound about right? Just checking my math....
     
  12. MTennisMan

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    bdog, did you forget to add lead to 3 and 9? wait, now i'm confused
     
  13. jemsiter

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    basically you are right... but don't forget to keep the balance at 6 points headlight
     
  14. dgoran

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    Pretty close but to be really picky in my experience strings are closer to 20gr if you use poly (18gr for 17 gauge for example)

    rubber band is just 1gr and XL overgrip is 7gr but your end result will be the same as you said just you have too many grams to the overgrip and rubber and too little to the stringbed BUT if you string multi those will be lighter so 15 gr is possible
     
  15. MTennisMan

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    wait guys, what about 3 and 9
     
  16. jemsiter

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    it was already accounted for
     
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    Thanks again for your responses. How would you keep it at 6pts headlight?
     
  18. bdog

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    You are right. Don't know why I said 15 grams for strings. It is between 18 to 20 grams. Which would make the band and grip about 7 to 8 grams. Don't mind you being picky at all. I never considered that a rubber band and grip add 8 grams. Never figured that in. Do you find multis to figure lower as you said?

    And thanks for checking my math....
     
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    Tournagrip doesn't have a thick and thin end. It comes with a square cut at both ends, rather than being tapered at either end. If you want tapers, you have to cut them yourself.
     
  20. ronalditop

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    Oh I didnt know that. Thanks.
     
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    Just want to say thanks for showing us the sticks!
    Great pics btw....
     
  22. jemsiter

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    You're welcome
     
  23. jemsiter

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    I have a question about my retail roddick gt plus
    I noticed it says recommended tension is 55/62 lbs while tw lists 55/66 lbs.....?
     
  24. Murray_Fan

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    what do they mean Andy Roddick's 536th and 547th racquet?

    Thanks
     
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    wow great find! high quality pics too. nice!
     
  26. jemsiter

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    Andy goes through a lot of racquets each year
     
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    Wow this is great info, thanks for posting! JW roughly, what does this put his swingweight at?
     
  28. dgoran

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    hey jemsiter could you please post end of the grommet channel of andy's sticks if its not too much trouble.

    Here's the example of what I had in mind:
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  29. jemsiter

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    anyone knows?
     
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    The 62 max is to maximize the effects of the woofer grommets. The frame will still be under warranty when strung as high as 66.

    -SF
     
  31. jemsiter

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    Thanks...
    so 55/66 is never printed on retail racquets... all are printed "55/62" is that right?
     
  32. Hi I'm Ray

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    wow, I love how they painted on a fake cortex =D thanks for sharing!
     
  33. jemsiter

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    The Roddick racquet plays softer than the retail one.
    It has much better ball pocketing and much more comfortable.
    Overall a retail racquet match to Roddick's specs would play similar to Roddick's racquet except the feel. I know why pros don't change racquets because no matter how you match the specs, you can't match the feel of a racquet.
     
  34. gino

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    rackets look great! thanks for posting
     
  35. Murray_Fan

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    Great Get!
     
  36. Ross K

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    A-ha! Just as I suspected!... another pro who's own frame is much more soft and flexy than many would ever guess or believe... hmm, interesting :wink: .

    R.
     
  37. PTFC

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    Seems many pros prefer a higher flex than the retail sticks... Curious.
     
  38. Ross K

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    No, lower...
     
  39. 0d1n

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    I thought you said you were not going to hit with his rackets.
    Do you refer the "real" sticks or the "customized to his spec" stick in this post ??
     
  40. Mdubb23

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    I completely disagree. Yes, my few are much more comfortable, but, no, in my opinion, they play much, much stiffer than the retail. And as for the ball pocketing, in my opinion, that's attributed to more the strings than the frame.
     
  41. akybo

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    Add lead tape to any racquet and it will feel softer and flexier than before.
     
  42. sosa09

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    there are 2 rackets with the same over grip and 1 with other grip . the 2 rackets that have the same overgrip is tourna tac or xl ? and the only one is the original tourna grip?
     
  43. Mdubb23

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    ^^Roddick uses Tournagrip XXL.
     
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    for me is XXXXXXXL haha
     
  45. jemsiter

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    Roddick uses extra wide (not extra long) original tourna grip. The retail one has tourna II tac which I prefer
     
  46. Mdubb23

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    Not true. Roddick, as do Querry and Isner, uses Tournagrip XXL. It's both wider and longer than the original Tournagrip.
     
  47. jemsiter

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    Not true. Roddick's overgrip is the same length as an original tourna grip (not extra long). Please see attached pic. Next time please be 100% sure before you post something.

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    you took off one of his overgrips? what replacement grip does he use?
     
  49. Mdubb23

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    He uses Babolat Syntec Black--same as retail. He has a custom-molded grip between 4 3/8 and 4 1/2, and he uses a 4 1/2 buttcap.
     
  50. LPShanet

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    Actually, if we're being totally specific/accurate, the XL is the same length as the regular (99cm), but wider (29 versus 25 mm)...however, the XXL is both even wider (35mm) and SLIGHTLY longer (100 cm) than either of the other two. (Obviously, this is according to official specs, and each piece varies a tiny bit.)
     

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