Angell Sport!

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  1. djoko4thewin

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    Hi guys,

    Angell sport has now launched! as we know it was another brand but be nice to set up a thread for all things Angell related. hopefully Paul the owner can have some input too.

    Thanks. hope to see old customers spreading the word about how these play.
     
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  2. Meaghan

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    Yes, hopefully pick up a couple soon, the cosmetic I like and Ive been considering moving back to the custom 95 for a while but was finding it difficult to pick one up so Ive waited for the relaunch.
     
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  3. Marcus

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    I'll be getting a pair of 95's 16x19 63 RA 27.25in 330g 10 points headlight, head Grip shape size 5 !!
     
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  4. djoko4thewin

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    very similar to me! but they do grip shape in grip a,b, c. what bumper colour do we like guys as the frame always cones in a metal grey color?
     
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  5. Vcore89

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    Most of the original (not including the BastCore) remains the same except the 90 sq. in. head size is missing from the available customizable racquets. The head light balance of 9 to 12 points head light remains the same. The stiffness rating of 70 and 63 RA are the same.

    It is cool to have grommet color choice. I trust other offerings will gradually be introduced back. The customizable racquet now seems to be in black only and my 3 Vantage racquets are all white!
     
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  6. Fuji

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    I can't wait to order mine next month!

    White Grommets/100sq inch/ 27.75/ 330g/ 10pts HL.

    :razz:

    -Fuji
     
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  7. mctennis

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    I received an email from them the other day. I tried to register on their site but it said it wasn't working yet. Sad to start a site and send emails out yet the site isn't working. Seems they should make sure everything was working before having your rollout for your racquets. Just my thoughts. I do hope to go back to their site though when it is working correctly.
     
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  8. Racketdesign

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    You need a new aviator ;)
     
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  9. Kal-El 34

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    Can not wait to try these frames out. Really nice looking stuff. Going to be interesting comparing to the new Donnay line I have been hitting with
     
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  10. cluckcluck

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    My thoughts exactly. Any idea on beam width?
     
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  11. zapvor

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    i thought they were fairly overpriced......
     
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  12. Vcore89

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    Red grommets goes great with all-white frames, unfortunately only metal grey colored racquets are available for now, probably because it is the color that sells.
     
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  13. JGads

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    Congrats on the new venture. I wonder: any any plans for a tweaked/updated Bast Core at any point in the future?
     
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  14. djoko4thewin

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    oops, changed now :)
     
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  15. Larrysümmers

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    string pattern and stiffness?

    looks like a beast.
     
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  16. realplayer

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    I already ordered one a few days ago but wonder when the racket will be sent. i can't wait to try it out.
     
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  17. Fuji

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    I believe it's offered in 16x19 and stiffness of 63. :D

    -Fuji
     
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  18. classic tennis

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    Well done , they look and sound great.
     
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  19. Moz

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    'Angell - my name, your frame' is a curious marketing strategy.

    The racquets do look very interesting though.
     
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  20. waginen

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    I have ordered almost exactly same frame:).
    Except of standard length and head grip 4.(blue bumper, black leather)
    Can not wait when I compare it to my beloved PT630's.
    Never had a chance to hit with Vantage before.
     
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  21. Larrysümmers

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    sweet goodness. sounds like youve created a really nice frame. hopefully the open pattern and soft flex will tame the mass and larger specs. i bet it will hit a heavy ball, thats for sure.
     
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  22. Fuji

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    Oh yeah! That's what I'm hoping for as well! I think a RA of 70 would be just a bit too wild, but with the softer flex it should hit a super heavy shot. :D

    -Fuji
     
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  23. El Diablo

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    ^^ Having played with a number of 70 flex Vantage frames (the initial Angell frames are not expected to differ from Vantage except cosmetically), you would find them anything but wild. 70 is the unstrung flex spec, meaning perhaps 67 strung, always felt like 65 or 66 to me. Found plenty of control in those 100 sq. in 70 frames.
     
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  24. Fuji

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    Have you played a 63 stiffness? With your comments I'm wondering if it would feel closer to 60 which would be even better for my arm!

    -Fuji
     
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  25. Tournament Player

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    My current racquet is the prince exo3 tour, no power, and it is so flexible that it actually hurts my arm, tried the bc20 and it was even worse, wondering if I should go with 63 or 70 since stringing would make it more flexible, there is a serious lack of pop from these fexible frames and when I'm in a match in the third set that extra pop seriously helps but it is by def not worth any arm or wrist pain, out of tennis for a week with a wrist pain from overly flexible frames :(
     
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  26. realplayer

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    Take 63 stiffness. I sold the bc20 because of the same reason. The 63 is more solid and very armfriendly and plenty of power as well.
     
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  27. El Diablo

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    I've hit with the 63s, yes they feel extremely soft, should be like butter for your arm.
     
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  28. Tournament Player

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    I think you are right but I have a more important decision to make, red bumper guard or blue bumper guard.
     
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  29. El Diablo

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    ^^
    red >> Republican

    blue >> Democrat

    how do you prefer to be perceived?
     
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  30. Tournament Player

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    more of a democrat but red looks amazing so def going with red: if you choose red here: http://www.angelltennis.com/custom/?prod=tc95 for the bumper you will see what I am talking about
     
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  31. Vcore89

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    @racketdesign,

    Any chance of an RA rating of 68 coming out to supplant the 70? 68 is essentially 65 when strung, right? Just the perfect amount of power and flex for the general public imo.

    In any case, there's always the 63, which is essentially a 60 when strung for those who prefer lower.
     
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  32. djoko4thewin

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    as a user of the old brands name but not of a 100sq inch head is this infact the correct measurement or is it more of a 98sq? thanks
     
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  33. Lphansen

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    Hi
    VT 321 is 100 sqin.

    I have suggested Paul to make a 98 sqin but so far no luck !

    Regards lphansen
     
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  34. El Diablo

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    "make a 68 flex as well as a 70 flex"...."make a 98 inch as well as a 100 inch"....one needs to understand that this is not Wilson or Head but a relatively small mom-and-pop, maybe not even mom, business that can't carry the variety of inventory that a large corporation can.
     
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  35. SFrazeur

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    It would be better to see more options for current headsizes over more headsizes. Such as more string pattern options for for 100 and 105 headsizes. As well as swingweight selection options for all.

    -SF
     
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  36. scotus

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    But this is still a "custom-racquet" company. A couple more racquet head sizes and flexes is not an unreasonable request.

    If Angell/Vantage does not want to offer a variety, they might as well start offering customizing services for racquets of any brand like Priority 1 or **** do.
     
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  37. Chotobaka

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    Maybe I am missing something. Does Angeli operate pretty much in the same way as Vantage? So, aside from color-schemes and grip shapes, the customer is still selecting from an inventory of racquets with fixed specs. How is that custom?
     
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  38. scotus

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    One important factor left out is the length. But other than that, you nailed it. The choices are quite limited.
     
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  39. Meaghan

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    Take their 95"...... It's available in 2 stiffnesses, 2 string patterns, 5 lengths, 13 weight balance options, 3 handle shapes. That's 780 different possible rackets. Without mentioning grip and bumper colours. Doesn't sound too limited to me!
     
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  40. PhrygianDominant

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    The options are very varied indeed, if you understand the difference between them. Here's hoping they are around when it's time for me to rekit.
     
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  41. Dags

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    The colours of the racquets look great. The bag... well, the bag looks very grey. I'd like to see the main part black with white writing (to match the frame), and then the pocket to be customisable as it is.

    I have a Vantage 6-pack which has been great but is wearing out, and a 9-pack would be a nice replacement. But... grey?

    Oh, and any thoughts of a demo scheme for us in the UK? I recall you briefly had one with Vantage.
     
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  42. tailofdog

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    70 Hurts

    I had the 70 ra and it wrecked my arm. Hitting the sweetspot felt great but, the 63ra would have been better.
     
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  43. Tournament Player

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    I am patiently waiting for a review :)
     
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  44. Roforot

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    Perhaps they could trim the length choices to three (27, 27.25, 27.5) and increase other options. Maybe they could also just go w/ their neutral "B" grip and then offer even more customizable choices in head size/string patterns.

    Is their sales model based on the expectation that you buy a frame which will not require customization? If you have to add lead to the frame, then I'd question how "customized" the racquet is?
     
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  45. realplayer

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    And not only that. If you have specific requests for swingweight, balance than they will take care of that so you can get it exactly as you like. You just have to ask.
     
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  46. Tournament Player

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    Honestly I don't know why people are complaining, there are more than enough customization options, I personally don't even buy it for that reason, just the racquet mold is perfect
     
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  47. Meaghan

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    You are talking about the difference between trimming the hair pin and pallet and a completely different mold! We are not talking about Wilson or head here, I think there's enough custom options, remember pro stock tend to come in two flex options, the difference between 95 and 98 is negligible, Paul makes a quality frame that's up there with the best pro stock frames from head and Wilson, he gives you options, what you do is use them and then mod to suit your spec. Anyone can purchase grommets and pallets and redistribute the weight and length, like Bosworth, like pt57 or h19/22. If after all that you don't find what you're after then its easy, stop derailing this thread and go find something else.
     
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  48. Roforot

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    I don't think asking questions about Angel racquets counts as a sidetrack.

    It sounds like the majority of what they customize are things that are reasonable to replace aftermarket like the handle or grip?

    I'm also skeptical as to how many of their 13 weight options are feasible.
    Did you have to add weight to your "customized" Angel frame?

    I also don't think we agree on what "customization" means. It's like saying you can have a custom color but only if it's blue or red.
     
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  49. Meaghan

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    I agree we are deliberating over what we believe customisation means, Angell is what it is, it has options but not everything to meet all our needs, it can't do that but no one can. If you phone/email then the teccys can help with your tweeks. Personally I like to do that myself. Looking forward to hitting with them again.
     
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  50. Vcore89

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    Say, not in the works yet @racketdesign?
     
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