Angell Sport!

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  1. classic tennis

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    Man you must be some sort of racquet genius to be able to "feel" a one or two point RA difference, the volume manufacturers produce ex factory with a six point variation.:neutral:
     
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  2. Tournament Player

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    +1..........
     
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  3. Vcore89

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    I trust Vantage/Angell has strict QA/QC, while I totally understand manufaturing tolerances...custom racquet is not something one can claims it to be when it isn't.

    Anyways, owned and played (played with friends' frames too and they prove to be ever consistent) Vantage with RA 70 and 63, big difference. If they ever produce one in the 66-68 range I'm sure the difference is clear too.
     
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  4. vsbabolat

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    I'd bet you could not tell a two RA difference within the same racquet.
     
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  5. Tournament Player

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    look whatever your using, an angell racquet will be better, what stiffness are you looking for if you ordered one
     
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  6. Vcore89

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    Not ordering any for the meantime. Still got the 90 RA 63 and 70; 10.6, 11.4 & 11.7.
     
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  7. Vcore89

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    I would say if I have 10 racquets of the same...I would be able to throw away the 2 out and it should be those 2.:-|
     
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  8. realplayer

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    Maybe you should measure the RA stiffness of your rackets then. I bet there is a difference in RA.
     
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  9. Tournament Player

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    omg someone put up a review soon lol, im dying
     
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  10. scotus

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    Why, what makes you think these are any different than the old Vantage sticks?
     
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  11. realplayer

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    Maybe because of the paintjob.
     
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  12. Vcore89

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    Vantage sounds a lot better and the logo is much cooler and has got the edge; killer instinct kind of edge but subliminal!

    Well, it's Paul's company and his decision to make and he's already made the switch/transition.
     
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  13. Meaghan

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    TP they are not out yet, available in pre order, I expect it will be another week or two until delivery.

    Also scotus is right, these are the same molds as the vantage sticks, just a rebrand, personally I like angell better than vantage.
     
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  14. mykoh

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    hey guys re the handle shapes, A = Yonex, B = Head, C = Wilson?

    sooo tempted to get one. i've got a 95 16x19 63RA 320g 10pts HL Red grommets and black leather grip sitting in the cart. :D
     
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  15. Automatix

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    How in the world did you come up with that?

    The "A" handle shape is the most rectangular so that's Head.

    The rest is a bit of speculation however with Vantage it was Head, Dunlop, Wilson, Prince.

    So my guess would be that since the "C" handle shape is the most round, that would make it a Prince.

    The "B" is one of those "in the middle" shapes so that could be a Wilson, but it doesn't have to...
     
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  16. Meaghan

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    My guess.....

    A) head
    B) Dunlop
    C) Wilson
     
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  17. Automatix

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    "A" is definitely a Head shape. No doubt about it.
     
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  18. mykoh

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    padron the noob, i know head's pretty rectangular but i had no idea it would be as rectangular as the A grip shape. haha thanks for clarifying guys.
     
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  19. scotus

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    I guess the Bastcore models are not coming back.
     
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  20. realplayer

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    I asked Paul for a dunlop grip and he advised me to get B so it must be a dunlop gripshape.
     
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  21. classic tennis

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    Why would a amateur (hobby) player have 10 racquet's, I think you are over thinking your equipment way too much? find a stick you like and some comfy shoes and enjoy the sport, and strive to improve your game, it's not the equipment it's your technique.:???:
     
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  22. Automatix

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    If that's the case my speculation would be...
    A - Head
    B - Dunlop
    C - Prince
     
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  23. borgpro

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    Which one refers best to Wilson?
     
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  24. Automatix

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    Either B or C. B will be a bit more rectangular, C will be rounder. I'd go with B.

    Vantage had 4 grip shapes. Head, Dunlop, Wilson and Prince.
     
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  25. realplayer

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    If A is head and B is dunlop than C is wilson or prince. I felt that Wilson is more rectangular than dunlop and prince is more square.
     
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  26. borgpro

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    I am getting confused :)
     
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  27. realplayer

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    Dunlop and Wilson are the most popular gripshapes so i'm for 99,9% convinced C stands for Wilson but why don't you send Paul an e-mail to be sure??
     
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  28. luishcorreia

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    Did anyone already got one of these racquets?
     
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  29. Anton

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    More weight (and technique to handle it) is the answer to getting more pop out of any frame.
     
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  30. Meaghan

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  31. realplayer

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    I'm very sensitive to gripshapes. With vantage the basic gripshape was dunlop. For example they send the bastcore with a standard dunlop shape and that is the grip i'm used to.
    I ordered an Angell racket and hope the B grip correspondends with that gripshape.
    I can easily feel a big difference between dunlop, wilson and prince and prefer the dunlop by far.
    If you read the explanation of the gripshape you think it is some kind of hybrid of three gripshapes. I hope that is not the case.
     
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  32. Tournament Player

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    the Angell A shape is the same as Head. The Angell C shape is the same as Prince, and the Angell B Shape is a generic octagon as used by Wilson, Babolat, Dunlop etc.

    I guess he saying that Babolat, dunlop, and wilson use a similar grip shape which is kinda of true except wilson is a bit more round and babolat generally runs a half a size bigger. So it looks like:

    A- Head

    B- Dunlop-like grip that was used by vantage

    C- Prince
     
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  33. Automatix

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    I think you are spot on with this.
     
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  34. parasailing

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    I never had the change to play with a Vantage stick so which one would you recommend if you looking for something that hits like a Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT?
     
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    The 95 custom(TC95), 16x19, 63RA, grip shape B at 11.4 oz and 12pts hl
     
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  36. officerdibble

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    I think one of the issues with the grips shapes is that the other tennis racquet brands aren't entirely consistent in the shapes they use (a by-product of using different manufacturers on the basis of cost and being willing to trade-off a little quality control if the price is right).

    I believe that Angell use the same supplier and have more exacting standards so the good news is that, if you like the shape it will remain consistent.
     
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  37. Seacoast Stringer

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    I'm looking foward to buying some Angel frames. Paul is one of the nicest guys in the industry and his designs at Dunlop and Vantage were second to none. These will be some nice sticks!
     
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  38. Marcus

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    I shall be ordering my 3 later today.....
     
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  39. luishcorreia

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    anyone already has them?
     
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  40. realplayer

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    I believe they will be delivered the 17th which is today. I hope to receive them soon.
     
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    Paul never responds to my emails :-(
     
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  42. borgpro

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    I have a question would you string a 95 with a 16x19 pattern, with a full multi, with different strength for the mains and the crosses or not? For example 55 for the mains and 53 for the crosses, or just both 54 if you use the same string (a multi)?
     
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  43. sargeinaz

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    I want to demo a 95, 70RA so bad. I bet it feels so solid.
     
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    Everybody should own at least 1 UK designed custom frame...........hurrah!!! ;-)
     
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  45. waginen

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    Does anyone have any update? I am waiting for my custom frame.
    17.9. passed and still no order update or message from Paul.
     
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  46. realplayer

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    On hit twitter account Paul says the new frames arrived today so it shouldn't take too long anymore.
     
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  47. waginen

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    Thank you. Did not cross my mind to check his twitter
     
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    Same with me, sent several over the last few years and never heard a word
     
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  50. BruceG

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    Join the queue. I sent at least 4 emails (regarding an order I wanted to place) and never got a reply; although I did get a lot of abuse from the vantage touts on this site when I dared mention it.
     

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