Another brilliant article of the great Simon Reed: 'Men's game showing cracks'

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  1. Augustus

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    Reed: Men's game showing cracks


    Eurosport-Yahoo! blogger Simon Reed argues that a decline at the top level of the men's game could benefit young players like Marin Cilic.

    In my previous blog I talked about the terrible state of the women's game recently (see link under picture), but for many the men's game seems to have gone from strength to strength.

    Certainly the success of the men's game in recent years has only gone to highlight the women's woes, but with big names such as Justine Henin and Kim Clijsters coming back, I think the balance of power is slowly going to start to changing.

    I say that because, for me, the men's game is not in the great state that everyone says it is. I don't think Roger Federer is the player he once was, I think it is pretty obvious that Rafael Nadal is not where he was and I feel we have been slightly smoke-screened about how good the men's game actually is.

    On paper it has been a great season for Federer but I look back on the year and certain matches stick out. The way that Tommy Haas took him to five sets at Roland Garros and very nearly won, or how Andy Roddick almost beat him in the Wimbledon final - these are all things that never used to happen.

    I think Federer and Nadal were way, way clear of the field but subtley this year, without everyone noticing it, that gap has faded away.

    I don't think there is a big gap between the top players and the rest AT ALL anymore, and I see new players coming through like Juan Martin del Potro (which is of course easy to say in hindsight) and challenging consistently.

    However, I feel the reason that this is happening is as much because the top players have dropped a level as it is for any other reason.

    One player I'll certainly put forward as a name to watch is Marin Cilic (pictured). I'm going to go out on a bit a limb here and say that he could be a Grand Slam winner by this time next year and I'll also again mention the emergence of Andy Murray, even though I know people might be sick and tired of hearing me say that.

    Regarding Murray, there is a danger that not having won a Grand Slam will become a monkey on his back. At the moment it might be too early to say that, but I certainly thought at the beginning of the year that he would have won a Grand Slam by now and it hasn't happened.

    At what point does it become an issue? I'm not sure, it depends on how he gets beaten in matches as much as anything else. If he goes to Australia and gets knocked out in the third or fourth round by someone who has a ranking like Cilic had at the US Open, then the pressure might be really too much going into Wimbledon, especially as it is hard to see him winning at Roland Garros.

    But let's not play down how well Cilic played at the US Open in beating Murray and I must reiterate that I think he really could be the player to watch out for in 2010.

    The best tennis I saw played by anyone in New York was from the Croat, not against Murray, but rather in the first set-and-a-half that he played against Del Potro in the quarter-finals.

    He was absolutely superb and then, for whatever reason, it all seemed to fall away for him and I have no idea why. I really would like the answer to that mystery - it's the one thing I still need answered before I'm 100 per cent certain he can be one of the game's very top players.

    However, there is certainly a massive opportunity for lots of players out there because, as I said earlier, for me the Federer/Nadal era is over - you can forget about it.

    After he won Roland Garros and Wimbledon people were saying crazy things like Federer could go on and win 25 Grand Slams but there is no chance of that happening - none!


    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02102009/58/reed-men-game-showing-cracks.html

    Why does this guy have to be so annoying? He's whining constantly about how Federer is not the player he used to be (the matches against Haas and Roddick:roll:) and the 'emergence of Murray'.

    He's just too stubborn to admit that all of his predictions this year have been completely wrong. Simon Reed should retire...
     
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  2. Does he have the guts too even write after his last terrible prediction?!?!!?:evil:
    Someone should fire his sorry ass!
    Let him go pick some flowers instead
     
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  3. TheMusicLover

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    Simon Reed, always willing to provide the tennis fans with some good laughs.

    So now Cilic is the next big thing. Funny how he fails to even mention Del Potro... LOL.
     
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    Uh oh, I fear Cilic will have a horrible 2010 now.
     
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  5. Augustus

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    Yeah, me too. Poor Cilic. The biggest fear of every player: being picked as a favourite by Simon Reed...
     
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    All too true. :twisted:
     
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  7. egn

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    If Mr. Reed just put a jinx on Cilic one of my favorite players at the moment he better start running. Can we leave those Croatians alone =[ don't they suffer enough..let them win some damn slams all ready.
     
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    As he himself says, everything is in hindsight. He seems to be an armchair analyst who is trying to say something relevant and not succeeding.
     
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    Is it "All over for Federer"?
    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11022009/58/simon-reed-federer.html

    Is "Verdasco the future"?
    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17032009/58/reed-verdasco-future.html?page=1&order=date

    Is "Murray the true #1 and winner of the US Open"?
    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/21082009/58/open-reed-true-number-murray-win-open.html

    Of course not!

    Those were just Reed's three most ridiculous knee-jerk reactions of 2009.

    It's really simple, Federer's doing fine, and he can't handle it. Therefore the mens game must be "showing cracks".

    Who the hell is paying that guy for those "articles"?
     
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  10. sh@de

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    Simon Reed = fail. LOL.
     
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    But let's not play down how well Cilic played at the US Open in beating Murray and I must reiterate that I think he really could be the player to watch out for in 2010. (Simon Reed Dec2009)

    Kiss of death.
     
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  12. Jchurch

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    This must be tennis' version of the Madden curse =)
     
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  13. Man sounds like a waste, complete fool. Yes federer has dropped a level but give the man a break. Roddick was just serving very well at wimbledon and would have beaten anyone else on the day. Nadal won a slam and JMDP was hitting lines against federer. Mens tennis isn't showing cracks.
     
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    Cilic beats Murry.....OMG HES THE BEST.

    Without anything beyond "this is what I think".
     
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    I disagree with this guy. I don't think the top guys are getting way worse. Obviously, Nadal is not in top form, but I think the greater reason is some of the lower ranked guys really stepped up. Fed would have won the US Open if Del Potro wasn't playing some of the most ridiculous power tennis in the history of the sport. Also, no way Cilic is winning a Grand Slam anytime soon. Not this year anyway. And perhaps never.
     
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  16. P_Agony

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    Well, I agree with him on one thing - Federer doesn't have a chance to win 10 more slams. It won't happen, it can't happen. However, Fed is still consistent at slams and I can see him pick up another 1 or 2 on his way to retirement.

    I also agree with him Murray will win a slam. He needs to, his time has come. He was close last year at the Open and this year somehow couldn't get anywhere on the HC slams. He was close to getting to the Wimbly final, it was a tough match against Roddick, and it's a better result for him than in 2008 (where he got crushed by Nadal in the QF).

    I highly disagree about Cilic. Yes, he played well against Murray, but it had more to do with Murray's stupid tactics in this match than about Cilic. This young player is way too inconsistent, and I doubt he could really beat the big guys. Heck, I'm still skeptic about Del Potro, despite him winning a slam. I wonder if he could keep this level. We've seen Djokovic play in a superb form in AO 2008, and what happened since then? Not a single slam final. Plus no MS titles in 2009.
     
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    What is he talking about? The quality of tennis (aside from Fed's serve) I saw at the US Open was incredible.
     
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    i do think the women's game hit bottom and is coming back up and i agree with reed's comments about the cracks in the men's game....a big however However, it's still the men's game that is providing the epic slam finals matches (fed-nadal, fed-roddick, fed -del potro as well as nadal- verdasco semi)..on the biggest stages the men are still coming up with epics
     
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    Jeeze, how many more grand slams does Murray have to lose before this guy finally gives up on Murray? It's damn annoying.

    Reed must be bloated from eating his words
     
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    hahaha, i literally laughed at this for some reason
    probably because its so true
     
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    I think Simon Reed should be credited with bringing all [insertplayer]tards to agree on something ie. that he's an idiot.
     
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    So he is basically saying because mens matches are more competitive at the top that there are cracks at the top of the game??? WTF kind of logic is that? Mens matches are usually won, rather than lost, unlike on the WTA so how can that be a bad thing for the mens game, fans and critic's alike like to see tough, competitive matches, and the quality in the mens side has been pretty strong for a while now.

    I am a really big fan of the WTA and will always watch it, but the level this year has been pretty bad, and whilst I agree somewhat that it will improve for the women in 2010, the mens general level of play IMO doesn't actually need to improve, because the top players are all playing well, and CONSISTENLY.

    And it not just the top 6 either, the top 20 on the mens side are a quality group of players

    I lost all respect for Reedy boy anyways because-

    1. He called Murray the 'real no1' - LMAO when there are 2 slam winners this year RANKED HIGHER.
    2. Said Federer was 'handed/gifted' his grand slams this year - even though he reached all slam finals in single year for the 3rd time in his career.
    3. Wrote an article praising the Williams, saying they are the best 2 in the world etc, then slated then only two articles later - inconsistency is his forte.


    Simon Reed, please please tell me who your dealer is, whatever your smoking, I want some, it seems like some good S&%t. It obvioulsy keeps you out of reality
     
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  24. David_Is_Right

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    See here...

    Reed gets a lot of stick on here, but this article is easily more insightful than the insessant drivel I see in here General Pro Player Discussion.
     
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