any filipinos here?

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  1. rommil

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    How about if you can make the best of both worlds and culture and integrate it in you as one person? That would make you a better person, wouldn't you think so?Please do not make it sound like we are sucking America's resources considering we put in hard work and pay our taxes too. Yet how do you define an all the way American by the way? I do not know from what descent you are of but I bet somehow you have family influences that's derived from another nationality/culture. I have learned the English language, I put in an honest days work, I pay my taxes, I voted, I pledged allegiance to the American government and ultimately I try to do things to make me a better individual. Filipinos, among other cultures, puts emphasis on the value of family and I intend to retain that.
     
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  2. tennis-n-sc

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    Rommil, I have no issue with every word you have said and in my opinion, it amplifies everything I stated in my post. Congratulations on your citizenship and welcome! By the way, I spent several months in the P.I., and came to love the country and people.
     
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  3. gmlasam

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    How is it like over there? Is it like Hawaii?
     
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  4. mabuhay

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    yup, tropical! the fruits tastes better. of course, there are ghetto areas but what country doesn't? tourists spot is a must see!
     
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  5. atatu

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    Yeah, well my grandparents were second generation Japanese and they just wanted to be "American" - didn't learn Japanese, etc. But when WWII broke out they were put in a prison camp along with thousands of other American citizens, so in the end I don't think it matters what you really "want to be American" as tennis-n-sc says.

    By the way, if you want to read a great book about being a
    Filipino in America in the 40's, read Carlos Bulosan's "America is in the Heart" - a great book. Back to Tennis, I think Taino was ranked in the top 60 in doubles at one time.
     
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  6. rommil

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    If you intend to play tennis in the Philippines, you will get to know the "real" meaning of hard courts. A lot of them are concrete courts with lines painted over them so the ball skids and will fly by you lol.And if you get to play in these little match ups where people place bets on the game, then you will know how nervous you can really get.
     
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  7. Tennis_baller

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    ^^ Really? Cool. I'm going back there for vacation, and there's supposed to be some community tournament. I don't know haw small/big it is. Probably small. Well, nobody would bet on us; I'm still in juniors.
     
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  8. tennis-n-sc

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    atatu, that was one of many black marks in American history. Another was the hatred shown Irish-Catholic immigrants, my ancestors. In view of all that, I'm in no hurry to move back to Ireland, although I'm free to do so anytime I like, if they'll have me. Think I'll just stay here. It's never easy to immigrant but I do believe the quicker one assimilates into the culture of the adopted homeland, the easier it becomes.

    gmlasm-as I recall the Phillipines, they are tropical lilke Hawaii, but much less commercialized and unspoiled. My favorite places were the beaches and mountains of northern Luzon.
     
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  9. rommil

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    Believe me some people will bet on anything lol...
     
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  10. bee

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    Not filipino, but consider it almost a second home as I've been there five times now. Play a lot at the Cebu Country Club on the slow clay (or is that ground shell?). The people in the Philippines have always been very kind to me and they have such good values. We can all learn a lot from people from the Philippines. I have such good feelings about the place.
     
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  11. Camilio Pascual

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    Is this the same Italy (in Europe) that almost went Communist in the mid 70's? There was a welfare state mentality going on, I know, I was there.
    Come to think of it, maybe you have a point. Maybe they decided to straighten up and fly right in the last 30 years. Bad, lazy grandparents!!! LOL
     
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  12. mabuhay

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    nice to hear that. i haven't been in cebu but i heard that the ladies there are pretty because of the spanish blood, am i right? lol! :D
     
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  13. eggnog

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    I just discovered this topic today!! My name is Andy Aganad. born and raised in california of Ilocano parents. Married to a beautiful Philippines born and raised Manila girl from Zambales. Hey "Prince of Tennis" in San Jose, I live in the Evergreen area of San Jose!! Where are you?

    I am middle-aged and play social tennis only. I supposed if I could play every day I'd be a 4.0 NTRP. That is what I used to be in college. My friends in school had trouble pronouncing my last name. I spelled it for them, one guy says,"It looks like eggnog!", and thus my handle here on TW. Do a search on my name... I've been posting and trading off and on on TW for years.

    Just a few things to rattle off:

    Please let's not get carried away on the ethnicity vs. nationality thing. I've seen it discussed to death in other Filipino forums.

    Here in my area of San Jose, the courts are filled with a mixture of Vietnamese, Chinese, Filipino, Indian, white, just like the composition of the neighborhoods. I play with my Filipino barcada at a local high school. Sometimes we'd form a team and play other teams from S.F., Daly City, Union City or Fremont. Not much anymore.

    Mamiit is a good solid player but he has almost faded away. Another example of NCAA success not guaranteeing anything in the Pros. Other Filipino pros? Do any of you remember two Filipino siblings in the late 70's or early 80's, I believe they were from San Diego or National City. They were the first Filipinos on the tour that I recall. Can't remember their names, family name might be Mendoza or something. Someone else might know. The girl played Chris Evert one time in a local tournament and almost beat her, so she was very good.

    I will check this forum again and see what you all are talking about.

    cheers,
    Andy Eggnog
     
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  14. jayserinos99

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    Rex works in San Francisco. Last I heard he was trying to make one more run; my friend used to work with his wife at Lockheed. I was supposed to hit with Rex but that fell through.

    Growing up in Hayward, I got to hit with Manny Tolentino when he was still in Union City (mid 90s). I don't know where he's at now but I remember when I hit with him he had some pretty nasty topspin.
     
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    I remember Manny's forehand. It seemed to defy the laws of physics. About as extreme a western grip as you can get.
     
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  16. bee

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    Mabuhay...yes, you're right. Nice, pretty and generally cheerful and fun to be with.
     
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  17. gmlasam

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    Hhhehehe..I also hear that ladies in Madrid, Spain are also very pretty. I guess it is also the Spanish blood :)
     
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  18. jayserinos99

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    What's up Andy. I'm in San Jose too, right near the airport. Prince of Tennis, you wouldn't happen to be the guy that plays at the courts off of 13th st.?
     
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  19. mabuhay

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    oh really? i didn't know that there are spanish in spain :confused:

    ;)
     
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  20. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Yah thats me!!!
     
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  21. eggnog

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    Well, Prince of Tennis & JayS,

    Nice to meet more Filipino tennis players in San Jose, CA. I must meet you guys some time but only if you are not better than me!! Anyway, 13th street, Backesto Park used to be my hangout 20 years ago. In fact we still have our house nearby there on 21st street, 8 blocks away.

    You S.F. people, anybody happen to know Rimsky Ramos and the Nepomuceno family (Byron, Ives). They are pretty much my contemporaries. Hope they are well, and still playing.

    Andy
     
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  22. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Wow 20 years ago you must old lol. I'm still a youngin' so you'll probably smack me around. Nope I don't know any of those people.
     
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  23. fershpnoy

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    me, hi.. whats up to all...
     
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  24. Prince_of_Tennis

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    yo fershpnoy...Where you from?
     
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  25. skittles

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    Pacific islander or asian??? i have long debates with my friends about this partly because i enjoy debates and also because i have alot of pride in myself and what i believe in.
     
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  26. mach1

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    Yeah...more San Jose filipino tennis players. We should start a league! Filipino-American Tennis League: South Bay Chapter...hehehe.
     
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  27. Noelle

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    Well, the Philippines is formally identified with Southeast Asia and is believed to be culturally distinct from the Pacific islander cultures (i.e. Polynesia, Guinea).
     
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  28. mabuhay

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    nice backhand noelle :)
     
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  29. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Haha I'm pretty sure there is on already. Consisting of old filipinos. But if there isn't there should be dammit. I'm one of two filipinos playing at Bakesto :(
     
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  30. mach1

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    dang old people haha jk...what about the youth?!?lol
     
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  31. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Old people suck!!! :mrgreen:
     
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  32. baselinebrawler

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    Any filipino players in southern cali? Or central cali? My little bro fought his way up to #1 singles in his high school in central cali. He plays for Delano High School. If anyone plays for a school that plays Delano his name is Eric.

    On my first question I live in southern cali and I am always looking for nice people to play with. I have not encountered alot of filipinos in the LA area that play tennis, but I would love to meet some.
     
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  33. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Maybe next time I'm in Eagle Rock we could hit...
     
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  34. baselinebrawler

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    Sounds like a plan. Lemme know.
     
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  35. jpsigchi

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    Any filipinos from New York here?
     
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  36. Aonex

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    Not from New York, but live in Manhattan now.
     
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  37. jc_rex

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    hey, i'm new here, and am a filipino also... :D
     
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  38. Prince_of_Tennis

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  39. gmlasam

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    Just wondering. Are there any USTP or ATP tournaments held in the Philippines?
     
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  40. Prince_of_Tennis

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    As far as I know thats a no. 100% no
     
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  41. gmlasam

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    Why so? Isn't tennis popular in the philippines?
     
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  42. mabuhay

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    tennis isn't popular in the philippines because it is just too expensive for the people there. most of the 'em thinks that tennis is for rich people only, just like golf. i heard that they had a philippine davis cup before, i don't know if they still have it though. also, my tennis friend told me that they have good players in the philippines but the corrupt government won't support them to travel here... sad but true.
     
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  43. baselinebrawler

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    so are the only sports that they support are boxing, billiards and whatever sports are featured at the olympics? Seems that Pacquiao, Reyes, Bustamante and the olympians got to travel around to compete. Tennis would seem like a good way to introduce the world to the culture. I mean Paradorn did wonders for Thailand.
     
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  44. bookem

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    The Philippines continues to participate in Davis Cup ties... although they lost to S Korea in Feb, they will have a playoff vs Lebanon in July.

    From what I have seen, tennis (or lack thereof) in the PI may be attributable to the following factors:
    • Perception as elitist. It seems there are 2 routes to playing: (1) being of means whereby one can belong to a club, or (2) not being of means and working at said club or public facility. (1) has probably been experienced or seen by anyone visiting/from the PI. (2) can be found at places like Luneta where the 'ballboys' or 'assistant instructors' work for near-peanuts, try to earn decent tips, and yet get an opportunity to play as much as possible.
    • Facilities. With Metro Manila the way it is, land is far too valuable for a huge complex, unless it's been around like the Polo Club or Valle Verde.
    • Concentration on junior events. Check out the number of tournaments that PHILTA organizes. There's about 20 junior events to every 1 for adults (and then... they're mostly interclub play).
    • Economics. Racquets are expensive as are balls (ironic considering that the TW Message Board popular Dunlops are made in the PI). Text messaging is the sport of choice :) ...

    It's too bad... because as I've said in a previous post, Pinoys can be found everywhere and are some of the nicest, most enthusiastic tennis fans I've come across in my travels.

    Oh well... just continue to present and represent your respective heritage well and proudly...
     
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  45. Tennis_baller

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    You missed chicken fighting..... j/k Don't get mad at me just had to say it.
     
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  46. Prince_of_Tennis

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    c_o_c_k fights thats a spanish thing...They should have extreme tinikling that would be crazy...
     
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  47. Noelle

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    I live in the Philippines, and tennis is expensive for working-class people. Sadly, it's a sport for the upper middle class, but people perceive golf to have a higher status, especially since an important golf tournament was held here about eight years ago.

    I'm not sure the corruption is a huge factor in the decision not to support Philippine tennis, but I think it's due to the priority assigned to sports. If you've got a huge foreign debt to repay and you're fighting a war down in Mindanao, you'd dedicate more resources to debt service and the military rather than "frivolous" sport.

    Even the professional basketball leagues the Philippine Basketball Association and the Philippine Basketball League have teams that carry a corporation's name, not a certain locality's name (i.e. San Miguel basketball team versus a team called the "L.A. Lakers").
     
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  48. Prince_of_Tennis

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    Brought back from the dead. Just wondering if we had any new filipinos join the board?
     
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  49. Tennis_baller

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    MEEEE... but im old here, sorry
     
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  50. tennis-n-sc

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    I was stationed at Clark AFB in the 60's and loved the country and people. I traveled as much of the country as time allowed. I have always wanted the economy to improve and the political structure to strengthen with visionary people. There is no reason it can't. Other countries in the region are beginning to prosper and I really want the Philippines to benefit. What do you all see as the most pressing needs?
     

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