Any Hope For Short Guys to get a decent Serve?

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  1. Wilander Fan

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    The thing people dont see is the snap on the serve. Watch a pitcher in slow motion and you can see how much they are actually snapping at the wrist. There is no way to generate speed or spin just from muscles or leverage. Best way to start is with a loose arm and aiming for the back fence.
     
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  2. LeeD

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    My only claim the past 3 years is "about 100 mph".... on my first flats. Some days faster, some slower. None of the posted serves were twists or kickers, slices or pure flats, since nobody had played tennis for at least a month and a half prior to the vids. It was just me serving some for the camera.
    CindyS, remember I'm first in line, and you did promise.....
    Topspin, I never said my serves were faster than yours. Mine were taken around 9pm, in Berkeley, around 62 degrees, DunlopHDHardCourtChamp balls, which are the slowest and lowest bouncing, and heaviest on the market....for hard courts.
    What temps were your serves taken in, what balls?
    Played today in heat over 70 degrees, maybe 74. First serves bouncing hip high at the backwall during warmup, maybe 40", twisted 2 around the top of the head to a 6'1" guy, but he pummelled some of my low shorter serves into my service line alley when I left it short.
    Surprisingly, second serves, also bounced about the same height at the backfence, but easily 30 mph slower.
    Talking IN serves only, of course.
     
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  3. Topspin Shot

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    You've got a very good serve. But I won't believe the 100+ mph and 6+ foot kick serve claims until I see a video backing them up. My serves were taken in 70 degree weather with week-old Penn Championship balls.
     
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  4. LeeD

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    Good stuff!
    Tennis balls used should be equal in bounce, air temps certainly close enough.
    That "100mph" thing is tough to quantify without a radar gun. I do know the past No.2 for Harvard U, Aba, stood about 5' behind the baseline to return my first flat serves, and stood 2' inside the baseline to return my second serves in the doubles sets we've played.
    The local SanPablo court A/Open winner also stands about 5' behind the baseline against my first flat serves, but he only moves forwards to maybe baseline position to return my second serves.
    I stand about 3' behind my baseline and return all their first serves, and usually just atop the baseline for their second serves.
    And they block back my first flat serves, not taking even a 3/4 backswing.
     
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  5. mikeler

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    For 64, LeeD does have a nice serve, especially considering the conditions were cool and damp. He lives in Northern California, so not exactly fast conditions. I still find it hard to believe his claims but who cares. Let's talk about short people serving...
     
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    One of the weekend guys is a 5'4" 130lbs. serving monster. His first serves, flat with a slight reverse spin, easily exceeds 90 mph, giving his peers all sorts of trouble....low bounce, skidding out to the left of the recievers. His could hit a pretty normal 80 mph topspin second serve, when he's not tired.
     
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  7. Topspin Shot

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    Alright, peace. Let's get back to the point of the thread before we drive the OP off the board forever.
     
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    Rosie Casals, early '90's, Sausalito in the courts next to 1500 Bridgeway, was serving twists that bounced up to my eye height. I was out of tennis for a little over 12 years then, and was worried about her faster first serves, a top/slice combination, that might have moved in at over 100mph. She was like 5'2" tall, and out of tennis for at least 10 years then.
    I'd imagine AmandaCoetzer and DominkaCibulkova had decent serves, sine they played top 20 WTA for years.
     
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  9. Rozroz

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    wait.. so LeeD (the long haired guy), is 64?!?!?!?
    he looks like 40yrs max! or the video is misleading.
    what's your diet, man??
     
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  11. TheCheese

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    Nice serves, very goofy service motion.
     
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