Update on these guys. Case 2: I played against this guy last week with in a round robin of 12 players. . In the opinion of four very active 3.5 players ( two who play tournaments, ladders and leagues) and two very active league and tournament 4.0 players, this guy is a mid level 3.0 at best. All six of these players hit with or against this guy. One 4.0 player is a Captain of multiple teams. His record this year is 29-5 in 4.0 Adult, 7.0, 8.0, 9.0 Mixed 7.5 and 8.5 Combo. He and I are adamant CASE 2 male is average 3.0 player best case. Case 1: worse tennis player I have ever seen considering this guy has been taking lessons for three years every week. He is clearly not cut out for tennis. Should have self rated at 2.0 clearly. Unfortunately he will never play on a 3.0 team unless he starts to practice those lessons. Horrible to watch. Worse to play with.