Any news on Gasquet's case? I hope he is banned for life!

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  1. Nadalator

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    Say what you will, he cheated. Period. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
    I hope he doesn't get a preferential treatment for being french and a popular player.


    I was never fan of his game and his mental weakness. He was ridiculously overrated so I wouldn't care if he never picks up a racket again. I know he won't be banned for life but I can't stand cheaters.

    At least we can agree that he will never win a slam or a masters shield.
     
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  2. raven5288

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    You do know that cocaine isn't a performance enhancer so he didn't really "cheat". That being said, I do agree that there needs to be a punishment, but lifetime ban? I don't think so. Dude was in Miami, one of the major party hotspots in the country, and one of the major cocaine trafficking areas.
     
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  3. Jchurch

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    Yes he is a cheater. Cocaine will surely aide you in your quest to become a better tennis player. It must have absolutely no side effects.

    Please enlighten me as to how cocaine isn't destructive?
     
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  4. Nadalator

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    So what if it was in Miami? Should he dance salsa every night because he was in Miami? He took an illegal substance, so he cheated.
     
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    Are you deploying a debating technique where you demolish your own argument or something?

    If cocaine is 'destructive' - then how can taking it improve your performance? And if it doesn't increase your performance, then how can taking it be cheating?

    Gasquet should be punished in the same way that other cocaine users have been punished.
     
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  6. raven5288

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    I'm just saying that cocaine isn't hard to come by in the city. And no duh cocaine is an illegal substance, but he didn't help his game or hurt his opponents game by taking it so you really can't call it cheating. How many players in the nfl/nba do you think do weed or some other drugs? I'm sure many do, but it's not like the same as taking steroids or some other performance enhancing drug.
     
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    That's the most ridiculous argument ever, and it's attitudes like that that have led the U.S. to spend billions and billions of dollars on a failed drug policy.

    He took a party drug; big deal. Suspend him a month, offer him rehab if he's an addict, and let it go.

    You can't look at all drugs as the same. Cocaine is about as much as a performance enhancer as coffee, but less so, because it leads to a faster crash.
     
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  8. oneguy20

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    He didn't cheat since cocaine isn't a performance enhancing drug. He should be punished however.
     
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  9. IvanAndreevich

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    Another objective Nadal "fan" respective of other players and opinions.
     
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    I heard that he took a couple of hair samples which were clean and if he did take it then it would stay in his hair much longer so it is strange that he had clean hair.
     
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  11. Bundey

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    I think the first paragraph of his quote was sarcasm.
     
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    Oh, in which case 'whoosh' to me then:oops::oops:
     
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    Please don't speak if you're not going to use a brain. Cocaine is not in the same league as caffeine.
     
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  14. el sergento

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    Umm, how do you know he cheated?? If he did a couple of lines outside the courts you can't call that cheating, quite the opposite, the side effects and lifestyle associated with the drug would actually hinder his performance, not help.

    If Korda and half of Argentina didn't get a lifetime ban for using steroids or EPO, drugs that only serve one purpose, to enhance performance, then Gasquet does not deserve a lifetime ban by any stretch.

    In fact, the biggest crock in tennis history is that Korda was entitled to keep his AusOpen title after testing positive.

    The kid should get a slap on the wrist, nothing more imo. He didn't cheat, he just sabotaged his career.
     
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  15. Bundey

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    He never said that they should be treated as an equal offense, he just was saying that cocaine has no effect on improving your tennis, just like caffeine.
     
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    Oh thanks for pointing that out. Sorry Arafel.
     
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  17. el sergento

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    Illegal does not equal cheating. Example, If he burnt a red light on his way to the stadium before a match, which is an infraction, does that make him a cheater.

    If he had a beer before he was 21 in Miami, does that make him a cheater??

    He did something illegal yes, but he didn't cheat. His actions didn't give him an unfair edge over his opponents, if anything they hurt his chances.
     
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  18. Bundey

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    Yea, exactly. Which is why I would wish that the ATP would just slap him on the wrist or fine him, and let the law do the punishing.
     
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  19. oneguy20

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    Who has jurisdiction over him?
     
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  20. Serve_Ace

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    Score some coke! Crash my car!
     
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  21. P_Agony

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    As a Gasquet fan, I think he did a horrible thing, and he should be banned for a long time. Doesn't matter if he cheated or not.
     
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  22. Bundey

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    I honestly don't know. Good question.
     
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  23. THESEXPISTOL

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    if he wants use cocaine let him use it.. as long as he do it in privacy
     
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  24. Tennisplaya10

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    thats a very close minded view. weed is illegal too and it wont help u in a match lmao

    stimulants do enhance your performance though.
     
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  25. Solomon

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    Doing some cocaine isn't really a "horrible" thing.
     
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  26. Crayola Oblongata

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    I might be mistaken due to rough translations, but I've read that he could of taken it accidentally. Apparently, such a low amount can be found in certain teas, or soft drinks.
     
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  27. Gorecki

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    i wonder why would someone start a thread where he shows is ignorance towards the effects of illegal substances and to state he would like a pro sports playes to never play again? but maybe that is just me...

    im mediocre anyways...

    like you signature... very similar to Mungoloid!
     
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  28. tacou

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    firstly, there are already 2 thread on this subject.

    second, if Gasquet is a cheater then Nadal and any other player who has abused the time limit should be banned for life as well, as that infraction at least has an effect on the match, unlike taking a non-enhancing drug.

    lastly, Richard Gasquet has already won a grand slam title.

    so basically, your thread fails. I'm so sorry.
     
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  29. World Beater

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    what an ignorant clown the thread starter is...
     
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  30. JeMar

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    Wow, such harsh words for someone you've never met before. Get a life, perhaps? It might make you a little less high strung.
     
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  31. Tennis360

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    how can you call it cheating - he did not even play in Miami....and as far as I know it does not enhance performance....also as I reckon, he did admit on the positive test, but not on taking it voluntarily....he said he will "gather evidence" of his innocence - and as a fan, this is how it will remain for me, until proven otherwise. note that he has smaller amount of the substance in his system - 10 times lesser than what was actually previously reported (he could have passed the test if he was in the military) and some theories suggest it could be due to involuntary ingestion....so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

    assuming he actually and voluntarily took the drug, he should be punished yes - but a lifetime ban is just too ridiculous. i understand you are not a fan of his game, but for true tennis fans (which I'm sure you are one), how can you not admire that backhand? and how could say you "hope he is banned for life"? he's got potential - he's young, why the hate?

    and btw, he already won a grandslam - RG mixed doubles with tati golovin (in 2004)
     
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  32. Nadal_Freak

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    As a Nadal fan, I'm embarrassed that this thread came from a fellow Nadal fan. Gasquet shouldn't even be punished on the court but helped off the court.
     
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    So, instead of helping him out with his problem you think he should just be banned and sent further into oblivion? Pure class right there.
     
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  34. Joseph L. Barrow

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    Do you seriously think cocaine is a performance-enhancing drug? I don't believe there have been any scientific anayses on the subject, but I strongly suspect that were such a study carried out, it wouldn't indicate that tennis players on cocaine are at an advantage over ones not on it. The likelihood that Gasquet used cocaine in an effort to gain a competitive edge appears pretty ludicrous to me, and accordingly the term "cheated" does not seem to fit, nor does a lifetime ban seem commensurate with a single known use of a recreational drug.
     
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  35. norbac

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    Exactly, we don't know if this is a serious personal problem for Gasquet and it's eating away at his life. Why should he be punished for punishing his own body and mind?
     
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  36. Nicely said, NF.
     
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  37. tacou

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    I think the real issue is why are ATP drug tests more intense than US military??
     
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  38. Tennis360

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    I almost begin to think that Nadal fans are just the way they are: cannot empathize with fans of "small athletes" like Gasquet. thanks, Nadal_Freak for at least trying to change my perception.....
     
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    Apparently Gasquets biggest problem is his self-belief. Cocaine makes people believe they can do anything. :)
     
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    George Bush did coke and he served 2 terms as president.

    Phelps recieved a 3 month suspension after photo surfaced of him smoking weed.

    Seriously, he doesn't need to be banned for life. 2 years ban will kill his career anyways.
     
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  41. tudwell

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    So....

    If we can all stop fighting for two seconds, maybe someone will actually answer the question: Any news on Gasquet's case?
     
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    I want Nadal, Federer, Murray, and Djokovic all to test positive for cocaine and see how the views on suspension time pan out amongst the members of the board
     
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    Anything ban over 6 months is taking it too far.
     
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  44. tacou

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    right now I believe he's serving a 2month temporary ban and is using the time to compile his case.
     
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    This is weird have you made any mistake in your life???? How if you in Gasquet position has to face a "character" like you.....?? stupid
     
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  46. DownTheLine

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    He was being sarcastic or i just don't see what your trying to say.
     
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    Poor Richard..i came to this topic hoping all was well tennis would be boring without him...the ATP should have no jurisdiction over consumption or possession of illegal drugs, thats what are judicial systems are for, get him some help, hell he may already be off the stuff, but don't basically kill the career he's worked hard for over something that's practically irrelevant to tennis.
     
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    What had happened to Gasquet? His backhand could tremendously kill Federer game if he continue using it as his secret weapons. I wish he could be back in action soon.
     
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  49. gj011

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    Gasquet is not a cheater and should not be banned for a long time.

    I noticed that people here like to throw a word "cheater" a lot. Mostly without facts to back that claim up.
     
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  50. Jchurch

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    I definitely agree with you. If the level was so low that it wouldn't be detected on most tests that would lead me to believe that he might not have knowingly consumed it. Lets be honest, if someone is going to consume drugs they most likely won't do it in such a small amount. I wish people would learn that it is much cheaper to put people into rehab instead of housing them in prisons. And at least with rehab they will have a greater chance to rejoin society.
     
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