any tips to leaning forward with the body?

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  1. Rozroz

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    hi,
    i have a chronic tendency not leaning forward enough when hitting mostly forehands.
    that means even when i THINK i have my upper body leaning forward, it's not enough. when i ask people on my posture they say i tend to have my body even go backwards a bit, especially when the rallies gets tougher.

    so i need some way to MAKE my upper body get used to go into the forehands shots more consistently.

    maybe use shoes that have higher heels to make the body lean forward automatically?
    start playing more on my toes and lean forward?

    appreciate any tips or ideas.
    thanks.
     
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  2. Shroud

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    Try hitting on the rise. I think its nearly impossible to do that while leaning back.
     
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  3. Rozroz

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    yea, when hitting on the rise, i reckon i do better,
    but the problem is consistency on balls that i don't manage to get on the rise,
    balls that spin high on me, etc.
     
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  4. torpantennis

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    Maybe yo got lordosis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordosis
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    The cause of this is most often too weak posterior leg muscles (hip extensors). The best exercise to correct this would be the stiff legged deadlift.
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  5. Put stones at the back of your shoes. /end thread
     
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    It could be poor footwork.
     
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  7. Shroud

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    Not exactly for high balls specifically but here is a vid that has some drills that might help with your main problem:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO01CaN6lFc
     
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  8. Rozroz

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    i suppose this has to do with starting playing late so i have a defensive posture that i need to get rid of over time. i have pretty strong leg muscles though.

    yea, thanks :p

    i work a lot on my footwork. of course it's just decent but still, it's either i find myself on a defensive posture with my upper body, or i try to lean forward too much and start netting many balls.

    i'll have a look, thanks.
     
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  9. Rozroz

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    these are all great drills. i'm already subscribed to this guy.


    i do have a coach and we're working on all those aspects from time to time.
    i was just wondering if there's a way to MAKE the body lean forward (except stones in back of the shoe).
     
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  10. torpantennis

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    Maybe that's your problem, strong thighs (quads/hamstrings) but weak glutes. It causes the backward lean to the body and is extremely common. It also inhibits athletic development: "No Glutes Equals No Results"

    Develop much stronger glutes and the whole posterior chain, and ONLY stretch the quads and hip flexors. And stop sitting on the dam computer! :) This should take care of the anterior pelvic tilt.
     
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  11. Rozroz

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    hmm... interesting assumption. might be true.
    i should check my glutes. are those actually the "arse" muscles? ;)
     
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    any question without a video is pointless waste of time.. seriously.
     
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    Step forward into your shots.

    While it may be possible to step forward while leaning back, I don't think it is that easy.
     
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    Personally, I don't think there is ever a reason to lean forwards, unless you are stretching just to reach the ball.
    The ball should be hit in a balanced posture, and that's mostly an upright torso with bent legs.
    You can hit defensive groundies leaning back just a bit, especially really high balls, and it works for those who want to run and fetch a lot.
    But, no reason to lean forwards.
    Even approach shots, the legs are bent, the legs are moving the body forwards, but the torso is balanced upright.
    Work on stable balance, instead of leaning any direction.
     
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  15. Rozroz

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    you're right. i have a video in another thread. but i got better since then.

    stepping forward helps, but on most times it's when i start attacking an easier ball.
    most times i start to "give way" to leaning backwards is when i have to stay counterpounching in rallies. that's when i start to lose balance.

    basically you're right.
    i am just trying to make my body learn to withstand heavy balls by teaching it to be extreme on the "forward" part.
     
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    Maybe we can both try to hit the ball while we are on the balls of our feet, and not all the weight atop the heels. This works open, neutral, or closed stanced.
    Part of that is bending ze knees, something I don't do well. That's cause all you topspinners keep looping high balls to me.
     
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  17. You have not contributed to any of the recent hitting videos uploaded. That is disappointing.
     
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    Did you see the drill at the net? you HAVE to lean forward a bit on that one
     
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    To DeTennis, this post is about Roz Roz, not about me.
     
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    Squat with your feet about 3 feet apart- legs at about a 45 degree angle and hold onto a light weight (5 lbs?).

    with the weight over your right leg, push up and to the left with that right leg until your weight (and the weight in your hands) is transfered to the left side- then repeat in reverse (forehand and backhand) until you develop a smooth rocking/swinging/undulating motion- back and forth.

    Remember this sensation as you hit your forehand and backhand drives.
     
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    Step forward into the shot. It's the only way to guarantee that you're moving your momentum in the direction of the shot.

    If you're falling behind when you hit, then there's no way you can put any zip on the ball. The pros know how to shift their momentum forward so much so that you can barely see it. But for us mere mortals, we have to be a bit more obvious than that.

    So just take a step forward with each shot, in the direction that you want to hit.
     
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  22. Rozroz

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    thanks. i'll practice stepping forward more thoroughly.
     
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