Anybody try Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA?

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  1. Kevin T

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    I had a bomber of the new Stone 16th anniversary beer. It's a double IPA made with some rye and lemon. Fantastic!! Best IPA variation I've tried since Lagunitas Holiday Sux (which also had rye in the mix). The full rye IPAs, like SN Ruthless, are a little too much for me but these rye blend IPAs have just the right about of spice/earthiness. The Stone has a lot of grapefruit/citrus/pine in the mix. Just a great beer. I went back the next day and got two more bottles. The guy in the store said it was going like hotcakes.
     
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    At Senor Douggo's urging, I am currently sampling my first bottle of the Deschutes Black Butte XXIV. This is a RICH beer. My girlfriend and I are splitting the bomber, which is probably a good thing. Lots going on here - chocolate, fruit. Really smooth mouthfeel, and not as heavy as a stout. Certainly worth the buy-in price. I'm excited to see how the other bottle is after a year or so of aging...
     
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    Just had a pint of the Stone 16th Anniversary on tap at an uppity burger joint for lunch. The first half was going great, unfor my buddy decided to ordered the burger loaded w/ habenaros and jalapenos to split and the 2nd half of the pint was used for putting out the fire and I couldn't taste anything. The upside is that the burger joint has the best list of crafts beer I've seen around here with offerings from Avery, Firestone, Great Divide, Lagunitas, Port Brewing, North Coast, Stone, SN and many others.
     
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    SA Norse Legend SAHTI, meh, have a double deuce of Stone 16th anniversary.
     
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    Well done! Nice to hear these issues discussed by someone who has been on the inside and understands the industry. I look forward to your next post.
     
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    If any of you are at the USO, stop by the Stonyfield tent in the eating area, and try the Peak Organic Ale. Wife has become more health-conscious of late, while I tend to scoff at these things- but this stuff was darn good!
    That Red Star Cafe (ie. Heineken) was a joke.
     
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    Birthday trip to River Horse brewery in Lambertville, NJ- on the banks of the Delaware River.

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    I had a Dogfish 60 Minute Ale last night. Luckily, having 1 of those has proven over and over not to bother my toe. The Peak Organic Ale is pretty good DCaicedo. Has a unique flavor.
     
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    Thanks! Will continue the series with podcast about supply chain next week. Got any questions you want us to cover?
     
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    Based on the brands you mentioned, I'm guessing you are in Canada. If this is within your realm of experience, I'm interested to learn more about The Beer Store in Ontario. How's the craft selection vs a grocery or package store in the US?
     
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    Got to try 2 new IPAs from 21st Am and Lagunitas this weekend.

    The first was a very disappointing offering from Lagunitas called Daytime, a 'fractional' IPA, ie., 'light' IPA. I figured "what the heck, everything else they make is good"...wrong. I now know that IPAs are not meant to be 'light'. The IBUs are still high at ~ 54 but after the initial bitterness, all you get is seltzer water on the back end. Glad I only bought a couple of bottles. Stick with what you know (which is outstanding), Lagunitas.

    21st Ammendment Hop Crisis. This is a good, not great, Imperial IPA. Very similar initial flavor to SN Hoptimum but not nearly as full/rich/complex on the back end. It sort of goes away (my scientific opinion :)) on the back of the throat. Same price as Hoptimum at $10 for a 4 pack but not in the same league.

    I also bought a bottle of Goose Island Matilda, which I enjoyed very much on a perfect Saturday in northern California. Hope everyone had a nice long Labor Day weekend.
     
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    I do not live in Ontario (have worked there for a few weeks, that's about it), unfortunately I don't know the ins and outs of TBS selection over there.

    That being said, TBS is owned by the 3 biggest brewers in Canada (Labatt, Molson and Sleeman) and their stakes are proportional to how much of the Canadian market they control (55/40/5, or something like that), so how much space/publicity are they giving craft breweries (that they do not own)? That's an interesting question. The visibility (shelf space) is determined by market share, so chances are you won't see much in the ways of craft at TBS.

    LCBO might be a better way to go if you are in Ontario
     
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    Went out Wed night with some buddies:
    Sixpoint Sweet Action- good. From another fine Bklyn brewery
    Sixpoint HeBrew IPA- pure awesomeness
    Peak Organic- I'm really liking this organic beer stuff.

    Went out Thurs night with co-workers:
    Harpoon Summer
    Allagash White
    have had both of these before. Not bad.

    Just picked up the Variety 12-pk from Blue Point out of Patchogue, Long Island (NY). Should probably visit their location soon
     
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    I am in agreement with you on the 21st Amendment Hop Crisis. It's a decent beer, but Hoptimum is better.
     
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    I just picked this up. Looking forward to trying it. HeBrew has rarely disappointed me.
     
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    Nice podcast. I think it's interesting how certain people really fixate on the use of adjuncts by the big brewers. I think it's less about the actual use of adjuncts than it is a way of giving some substance to a very deep, emotional dislike of certain companies that probably has more to do with their position in the market than the actual content of their products.

    A lot of people don't realize that the use of adjuncts by American brewers actually has a 19th century historical origin rather than a modern commercial one. Brewers have always adapted to the ingredients available locally, and the styles produced in different areas can even be influenced by the mineral content of the water.

    When German immigrants started brewing in America in the 1800s, they naturally looked for two-row barley, which produces all of those smooth German and Czech lagers and pilsners. Unfortunately, two-row barley was scarce in America, so they started using the more plentiful six-row variety. Six-row barley has a higher protein content, which produces cloudy beer with poor shelf-stability. However, they discovered that the use of adjuncts like corn and rice clarified the beer. By reducing the protein content, they were able to produce cleaner beer with better shelf life. Shelf life became a big issue when mid western breweries started shipping beer over the rockies during the California gold rush.

    These days, two-row barley is grown in North America, and it can also be imported from Europe. All of the big brewers use two-row for their more upscale offerings. Something like King Cobra or Colt 45 is brewed with all six-row. The grains are a small percentage of the cost of getting a beer to the shelf. It's probably a smaller percentage than the sales tax you're paying on top of Federal, State, and Local excise taxes.

    A lot of people think that the American Light Lager is a post-prohibition creation of today's mega brewers, but the history of that style (and the use of adjuncts) really goes back to the early 1800s.

    Sorry, I know that's way off-topic, but now you have my $.02.
     
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    Tried Hop Crisis and Christian Moerlein Exposition Lager.
     
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    Your right on the market position angle. There's a movie on the web showing the tactics used by mega breweries to blow smaller breweries out of the market. They suck for that but that is corporatism in america. The beers lack flavor and barely resemble the taste of American lagers pre prohibition that were based on Czech pilsners.the use of adjuncts in place of malts may be cheaper but I think they use things like rice to make the beer lighter in appearance and lighter in flavor to appeal to the masses. The cheaper comes from mass production. Bud uses more beer to blow out the lines on a beer changeover then most small breweries can make in a session. always have a place in the market, especially for lawn mowing.

    On a high note... I just had an I-4 ipa from Orlando. Good stuff.
     
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    Who makes that beer?
     
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    Had some Bell's Black Note and The Oracle yesterday. The Black Note was fantastic - thick and bourbony. The Oracle is a rip-your-tongue-off west coast style DIPA. Much better than I remembered from previous years, but maybe my tastes have changed.
     
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    I used to drink Moerlein Vienna Lager and Bock back in my Cincy days 11 or 12 years ago. Glad to see they are still around.
     
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    Local store is closing out Exposition for $4.99/6pack. Best light lager ever IMHO but I'll save it for guests.
     
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    Hmmm....tell me more about this Black Note.....it sounds right up my alley. I can't really stand bourbon, but love bourbon barrel aged beers.
     
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    From Bell's site:

    Very bourbony. I had some bourbon barrell Plead the Fifth from Dark Horse recently, and this was much like that, if that helps you at all.

    Oh, and it's on tap at Mac's Industrial, possibly still at Bryant Lake Bowl, and Butcher and Boar. And others, possibly, of course. I think I heard Bell's has a tap takeover at Bulldog Uptown tonight. Lots of stuff going on for Autumn Brew Review week.
     
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    It was a little different but I thought it was tasty. A little more copper colored than most ipa. A little more malty with a nice hop balance. Not as hoppy as an i10, mabe it just didn't seem so with the malt.
     
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    Oh boy. I may need to make time to head to Mac's for a beer and some wings. :drool:
     
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    Hi SlapShot,

    There's a good chance I'll be making a quick stop over in Minneapolis in a few weeks. I'm staying near Target Field. Know of a good spot to try some of the great Surly beers you guys are always raving about? Thanks!
     
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    Surly is on tap about anywhere in town, and if you're over by Target Field, there are lots of bars along Washington Ave. If you're in the north loop area, the Loop bar is a pretty OK spot. There's also a brewpub that I cannot recommend enough called Town Hall Brewery - it'd be a bit of a trip from near Target Field, but they have one of the best IPA's in town.

    If you wanted to have a TTW meet-up, I would be more than happy to grab a beer with you somewhere in Mpls, and I bet Douggo would be game as well. Drop me a line through my profile if you know dates that you'll be here - I'm in class Tuesday nights, but apart from that I'm pretty available.
     
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    This would be a first. A TTW beer meet up. :)
     
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    I'd be up for it, although evenings can be tough to get a hall pass. Lunches are easier for me, and I'm not opposed to sipping a couple.

    Oh, and we should try to find a time where jhick can come up, if he's interested.
     
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    Thanks, Slap! I'll be in touch. A friend I haven't seen in years and I are trying to meet up for a baseball game one night. He'll be there on business and I'm trying to change my connecting flight to layover at MSP. It will likely be 9/27 or 9/28. It would be great to meet some TW beer fans. :)
     
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    You're on my radar too, Mikeler. :) The next great family vacation will likely be a meet-up with my side of the family (all on the east coast) at Disney World next spring or late summer. After a few days, I'm sure I'll be dying to sneak out for 1. a good IPA 2. maybe a quick hit 3. both if I'm lucky. :)
     
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    It should be noted that you can get Surly (maybe three varieties, including an IPA not available anywhere else) at Target Field. But there's only one Surly stand, so you'll have to seek it out.
     
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    Also, Target Field is the only place you can get Surly Bandwagon IPA.

    The Twins are winding down their season, but going to a ballgame might be a possibility to get me up to go up to the cities. Or perhaps a T-Wolves game.
     
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    Thanks Jhick, Slap and Douggo!
     
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    I'll be waiting... :)
     
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    I had this beer at a party last weekend. Awful!!! Luckily my wife liked it.

    I pretty much hate all high alcohol content beers (Doppelbock's and the like). They just don't taste right to me.
     
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    Blasphemy!!! Not a fan of high hop beers, eh? I actually had 90 minute on tap with dinner last Friday and it was fantastic. I don't find it on tap in Cali very often, so I tend to get it when available. 10 or 11% in a beer is pretty much my limit and I usually only like barley wines at this level. I think 7-9% is the sweet spot for me in a nice double/imperial IPA.
     
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    High hop beer is fine.

    I don't like any high alcohol beer. Hate Chimnay for example. The local Uinta brewery has a barley wine and other high alcohol beers that are just god awful to me.

    But like I said, my wife loves them.
     
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    Must despise Four Loco, eh?
     
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    In Maine now, may have to toe the line and try a local IPA.
     
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    Where in Maine? If you're in/near Portland, go over the NH border into Portsmouth. Their namesake brewery has great choices on tap.
     
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    I've discovered brewpubs and I've discovered growlers.
     

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