Anybody try Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA?

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  1. mikeler

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    Just saw our local Whole Foods is now carrying Sweetwater IPA. I may have to snag a single next time I'm there.
     
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    body too thin for my tastes.
     
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    You talking women or beer? :)
     
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    It's been a slow, drip, drip release but I've been able to get my hands on 2 sixers of Lagunitas Sucks Ale. And it's even tastier than I remember. Probably my fave Lagunitas beer (close 2nd is Lucky 13) and glad it will be a yearly release. I've also been drinking Dogfish Head Chicory Stout, also quite tasty, and Sierra Nevada 2013 Bigfoot barley wine. Cold weather and stout beers...a nice combo.

    I'll also put in a good word for beerjobber.com. Their selection is limited but for a Virginia boy stuck on the left coast, I was able to get a personal fave, Blue Mountain Dark Hollow, delivered for Christmas. Check it out.
     
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    talking beer here...u making me blush. :oops:
     
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    Had a Dieu du Ciel and a Santa's Little Helper tonight at dinner. SLH reminded me of Johnny Black.

    Mikeler, I never knew they named a beer company after you.
     
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    I know, they have not sent me royalty checks either! Funny you updated this thread since I was going to post something this morning.

    I am in Jax Beach and was at Mellow Mushroom last night. They had 3 local IPAs to this area. I have not had a beer in 2 months. In the past, I would have ordered all 3 and posted here. Instead I opted for DF 90 since I know that is toe friendly.
     
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    ^ and I had a Jai Alai at MM in WP last night.
     
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    They had that one on draft as well. It was a tough call between it and DF 90.
     
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    Managed to snag a couple of sixers of Bell's Hopslam yesterday. Not completely sold on the 2013 version - the 2012 was awesome, but this one seemed like it was a little less...awesome? I'll have to sample a few more in order to be able to make a true judgement. :D Not sure if Bell's is distributed in the southern states, but they make a few very good brews - their Two Hearted is a very drinkable IPA.
     
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    Bell's 2H is found at most good watering holes in central FL. 2H is an easy drinker but i'll opt for Jai Alai anytime over everything else if it's available.

    haven't tried the Hopslam yet but some DIPAs tend to be a bit too sweet.
     
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    They have Bell's down here in Florida. The two hearted IPA was a top 10 beer for me.

    I ended up having lunch in St. Augustine on Sunday after leaving Jax Beach in the morning. There were a few local St. Augustine IPAs that looked really tempting but I still had 2 more hours to drive back home after that so I passed.
     
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    Neighborhood store closing out the Winter brews. Tried Brooklyn Winter Ale. Sweet, butter toffee and chocolate. Tasty
     
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    I was very pleased with the New belgium Ranger IPA, very hoppy and a good price. I got it for 14.99 a 12 pack.
     
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    Wow, this guy's got a good handle on quality brews. I just picked up THREE sixers of Lagunitas Sucks today. Very "bright" tasting hoppy ale. Nothing heavy about it. But still the typical full-bodied Lagunitas style. I love Maximus as my everyday IPA and wait every year for the May release of Lucky 13.alt. I still love Lagunitas Undercover Shutdown, though, as my favorite strong ale.

    I had a Bigfoot tonight and it's by far my favorite barleywine. Too bad they screwed everything up and went to a 4-pack instead of the 6-pack and added another 15% to the price (now it's $15/6 compared to the old $13/6 that it used to be for the last 10 years).

    Anyway, Lagunitas is clearly my favorite brewery and I jump on every release they offer, especially the seasonals. I love barleywines, though, and I wish they would release their Gnarleywine again someday.

    I recently discovered Goose Island Bourbon County Stout (at 15%) and it's absolutely ridiculous. Amazing flavor, aroma, and body, even without aging at all. I can't imagine what this stuff will taste like in another year.
     
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    Lagunitas is a GOAT contender for microbrews.
     
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    21 Amendment and Sixpoint both are awesome two.
     
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    Thanks for the kind words. It's taken a lot of $$ and hard drinking to get to this level. :)

    Lagunitas is easily my favorite all-around, every day brewery (also love Russian River but their stuff is spendy). I always look forward to Lucky 13 time and if you haven't tried it, look for their Imperial Red in March/April. It's also fantastic. I like their Gnarleywine Barleywine but agree that Sierra's is better. Bummer that it has dropped to the 4 pack trend and price increase. I actually tried a bomber of Bigfoot Barrel-Aged, ~$15 for the bottle and hated it. It's rare that I like a bourbon barrel aged stout because of the often strong whiskey aftertaste and that taste was magnified with the Bigfoot. It lost all it's sweetness and made the beer malt heavy and bitter with a very heavy bourbon aftertaste. Not a fan.

    I have a few bottles of Lagunitas Sucks and a few cans of Oskar Blues G'Night Imperial Red for the Super Bowl. A local restaurant had a beer tasting with Oskar Blues beer and the Imperial Red is wonderful on tap. Not quite as good in the can but still good.

    Happy Sunday to all in this thread. Cheers and enjoy the game!
     
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    You don't have to tell me about the $$ spent on quality brews. I don't even want to think about how much I've spent in the last couple of years on beer. Today I picked up another two 4-packs of the Bourbon County stout at $23 each. I bought 5 cases of various beers (Bell's, Founders, Lagunitas) on a trip to PA last year and stacked them up on my basement. Best bet is to just buy when you can afford it and enjoy.

    Lucky13.alt is one of my favorites and I can't wait until May every year. I love Strong Ales and it's right up there with the best. Of course, when July rolls around, Lagunitas puts out their Undercover Shutdown Ale which blows away every other Strong Ale out there. Love that stuff.

    We're fortunate to live in the "glory days" of microbreweries. There is just SO MUCH high quality beer out there it's crazy. Yes, they're expensive, but it's so worth it.
     
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    So 1 year ago, I drank an IPA for each quarter of the Super Bowl and I think I added one for halftime too. That was the Joe Theisman moment of my beer drinking career because the next day was my acute gout attack. :(
     
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    Down a bomber of cherry juice during this brown-out. May have time to string a racquet, too.
     
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    I got a glass of wine in tow. Nothing beats an IPA though...
     
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    Nothing but a Cheerwine soda here
     
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    Have been making my way through the Variety 12-pack boxes.
    Today picked up Wolaver's Organic Ales. We'll see what happens.

    Completed 2 more courses (beers) for the MBA program- Old Rasputin Stout (excellent), and Sam Smith Winter Welcome (even better).

    On another note, you guys have to get your hands on Carton's (NJ) selection. I have a feeling they're blowing the socks off all the other NJ-based microbrews, and their "07XXX" (IPA) is really good.

    Beer trade? Your "Jai Alai" for my 07XXX?
     
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    Cool idea on the beer trade. Hopefully you'll get a taker or three. :)
     
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    haven't tried the beer trade...except to my sometimes hops sponsor. will pass on the Jai Alai since those end up empty before they reach the shipping dept. ;)
     
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    Fair enough- I realize it's a hot commodity.

    But no trip to FL this year means I'll have to resort to illicit and clandestine methods of obtaining said beer. :)
     
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    New brew tonite. Steelhead Double IPA and 21st amendment Marooned on Hog Island. Btw, Mikeler, your namesake brews are mighty high priced.
     
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    I'm worth it.
     
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    Well boys, I made the crazy decision (or what I like to think of as a concrete statement of faith and discipline :)) of giving up booze for Lent. I already slipped up once and decided that during the week= no booze, weekend (which, of course, includes Friday)= okay. I'll keep you updated. I went down swinging on Fat Tuesday with a Lagunitas Hop Stupid and a few Oskar Blues G'Night Imperial Reds. :)
     
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    tried a barleywine for the first time. got an oak aged one from Wynkoop brewery...freaking fantastic!! tried another one from a different brewer (no names) and it was a disappointment compared to Wynkoop....not aged in oak or aged at all.
     
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    I've had some really good barleywines.
     
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    1st timer, ST Unearthly and an old reliable, Stone Ruination.
     
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    Poured a 750ml Odell Bourbon Barrel Stout down the drain last night - infected. Hate it when that happens.
     
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    Was it sour?
     
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    Yeah. Not super sour, but it overwhelmed the flavors that should have been there. It's like the bourbon and the stout weren't there at all. Just a very mild tartness and that's it.
     
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    Had a 90 min while working on my dissertation.
    Got the juices flowing...


    I think. :/
     
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    Local Sams was doing Angry Orchard hard apple cider for 7.99 a 12 pack, I picked up 4
     
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    You guys probably saw the Superbowl ads with Beck's Sapphire and Bud Black Crown. if you guys are a bit curious about the backstory on those new brands, or how thing work inside the larger beer company in the world, read on:

    *warning: really long post*

    "I *may or may not* be the person responsible for Black Crowd. Not 100% sure about this, and I doubt anyone at ABI would confirm this, but here goes the story:

    A few years ago, I was recruited out of school to be in ABInBev's Global Management Trainee program. Essentially, the heads of the HR department and a few other execs go around college campuses in countries like the US, Canada, Brazil, China etc. and try to hire the "best" soon-to-be grads away from other multinationals like P&G, McKinsey and Accenture. Went through about 7 rounds of interviews and miraculously got hired out of about 2000 applicants from my country. The last group interview was interesting. 6 of us college seniors were in St Louis getting stared down by a few people on this org chart (http://www.ab-inbev.com/go/about_abinbev/management_structure/organization_chart.cfm). Somehow made it through that hour without crapping my pants and got an offer a few weeks later.

    Flash forward 8 months and I was back in Saint Louis with the other 100 or so Trainees in the class of 2011 for a week-long retreat/training session/meet and greet with upper management. In terms of accommodations we were really well taken care of, on par with any other Fortune 500-type employee travel perks. Our hotel was right next to the Cardinals ballpark and had a really nice gym. Since our workday started pretty early, I got up at 5AM on the second day there to get a workout in. There were only one other person in the gym on that particular morning - Carlos Brito, our CEO. We chatted for about twenty minutes while riding stationary bikes. He was great to talk to, but the whole scene kind of made me realize that's not the path I'd like to walk down, but I digress.

    The most intense part of the week was a presentation that we had to make to the VP in charge of New Products and Innovation. We were split into multi-national, cross disciplinary teams and asked to tackle one of the three problems:

    1) How to get more women to drink beer
    2) How to compete against craft brewers
    or 3) How to make the beer production process more sustainable and environmentally-friendly

    Since I studied business in college, I didn't have a clue about #3. The second topic I considered pointless (as you guys here would probably agree). So my team, which was mostly consisted of people not so fluent in English, let me pick topic #1.

    After a couple of days of brainstorming and prototyping, we came up with some insights to guide our thinking
    1) Typical chick lagers (think Bud Light Lime, Coors Light Iced Tea and any of the fruity Michelob lights) are fad products and not viable options to get more female drinkers aboard
    2) Girls don't drink beer with meals because most of their moms don't drink beer with meals
    3) There's a gap between what girls say they want (light, fruity brew that they can sip slowly) and what girls actually drink (in the case of college-aged girls at keg parties, pretty much whatever, as long as it gets them drunk)
    4) The biggest obstacle for girls ordering beers in bars and nightclubs: the bathroom line. You really don't want to spend half your night waiting to pee because it takes you 4 beers to get a buzz as opposed to half a dozen shooters.

    The solution was therefore clear: instead of going light and fruity, we need to go 180 degrees in the opposite direction. I'm talking about a malt liquor. Malt liquors aren't overly bitter, and the ABV is just about right - you won't need to shotgun more than a couple to get pretty tipsy. Another bonus: it could be priced the same as Heineken and younger people will buy it because it gets them drunk quicker for the same amount of cash. That's great for revenues AND for profit margins, since bringing imports over cost an arm and a leg, rather than brewing some strong beer using existing equipements and ingredients.

    We ended up presenting our new product as a bad-ass malt liquor/beer that will be around 9% ABV and packaged in a slick black bottle with some glitter or other sort of shiny crap on it. I got to channel Steve Jobs and do the 10 minute pitch in front of a group of about 120 people with a prototype bottle in my hand (which looked like a 5th grade arts and crafts projects gone wrong up-close, though it actually looked not bad from 50 ft away). The marketing campaign would be centered on 25-45 male drinkers with money to throw around. It was expected for women to start picking up the brand based on brand values and the ABV. The bar/club owners and ABI would be expecting to make a nice windfall as well, given the high production and sales margins.

    We ended up getting good feedback on our idea by the VP, and we went home a few days later and pretty much forgot all about it.

    That was in July 2011. Of course, Bud Light Platinum was launched about half a year later. Then this month we got Beck's Sapphire and Bud Black Crown. Whether our presentation gave the head honchos some good ideas or if it just happened to be a coincidence (I lean toward the second possibility, considering we were recent grads with next to zero industry experience, I'd tend to think that our suggestion were duly ignored), I'm disappointed about two things: 1) 6% ABV is a bit low 2) why did ABI think it was a good idea to launch three essentially identical products, just so that they can cannibalize each other?

    Anyway, I don't work at ABI anymore. Instead of getting a free case of 24 every month, I now get my beer from a homebrewer buddy. All's well that ends well...."
     
  40. alegare

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    60 is great. The 90 has some kick, but it's still good.
     
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    Anyone like Mexican beer? I prefer Modelo and Tecate
     
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    read that the big brewers could be doing that to take up shelf space in an effort to reduce available shelf space for craft micro brews. doing such also sticks it to the retailers...IMO.
     
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    yes and no. in my experience (in the canadian market), what usually happens is that the brewers make deals directly with the retailer. a usual arrangement is Big Brewer A gets 50% of the visual space and first choice of where brands go (in exchange for better marketing support and some sort of financial incentive), Big Brew B gets 30% and second choice. Then everyone else fights for the rest.

    Would much rather have 3 facings of the same brand, than 1 facing of 3 different brands even if I own all 3. also it's way more cost effective to promote less brands, than more.
     
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    jester king le petit prince is where it is at
     
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    not sure about Canada but have heard from "smaller" US micro brewers that distribution can be say "problematic".

    the spirit stores (not grocery,etc) in FL that get a good bit of traffic carry a fair number of different brewers/micro brews for those seeking craft brews.
     
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    Awesome post. I think another reason women don't drink beer is due to the number of calories. That is why my wife rarely drinks one.
     
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    Bud Black Crown was so bad I gave it away outside an AA meeting. After the meetiing
     
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    Saw on BeerAdvocate that Southern Tier is putting Oat, Javah, and Mokah on hiatus, leaving only Choklat and Creme Brulee in the Blackwater series.
    While I don't often buy these, I thought at least Oat was quite good.
     
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    also, a bit of a leak today:

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