Anyone Else Had Problems With New Balance 1004 4e Shoes?

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  1. kiteboard

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    I broke my foot playing in these shoes two weeks ago, tourny match. When I stopped on a bh, the foot kept going to the bottom of the shoe so fast my foot broke. Anyone else had this happen to them with theses shoes? The pain has been incredible. I can't play, work, or walk. My foot looks like a mango. Complaint. A few months ago, the right foot toenail snapped off when stopping on that side as well. Toe nail has not grown back. Left side foot is the broken one.
     
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  2. Totai

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    I use those same shoes and I had foot pain at the beggining. I replaced the insoles with a Dr. Scholls Athletic, and what helped the most was loosening up the laces.

    Your feet look terrible tho, are you sure it is because of the shoes and not because of some medical condition? you should see a doctor
     
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    Anyone want to see a picture of my feet?
     
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    Whoa! there should be a warning label on this thread! Crap, I should take a pic of my feet just to get back at you for this! gah! or maybe a pic of my hernia! or not.

    no, i haven't used that shoe so I guess i had no reason to read this thread. :confused:
     
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    The one on the left is broken, and the one on the right toenail broke also with these shoes.
     
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  6. charliefedererer

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    This is a tough break. Fractures that occur playing tennis are not very common. You may need help with a special orthotic insert to provide more internal support.

    There was a thread last month on 4e wide tennis shoes, but no one posted a true alternative to New Balance: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=317897
     
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    Is there anyway to prevent the foot from sliding forward and doing this again? I wear an ankle brace and inserts and thor los. CAn't play matches if this is going to keep happening. Pain is unreal. Like someone hammering my foot with a sledge hammer. My feet are flat, so an insert with arch will hurt not help. I considered gel caps on my toes, and cutting my shoe laces in half, with two sets of laces, loose on the bottom and super tight on top to try to stop this from happening. My wt. is too high and I move too fast for the foot to take it, and it slams into the bottom of the shoe. Maybe if I cut out the front of the shoe where the big toe is slamming into a concrete wall.
     
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    I'm not sure why you would want the laces loose on the bottom. I would think having tight laces on both the top and bottom would be best to keep your foot from sliding forward in your shoe. I tie my shoes tight to start with, but always need to retie them 10 minutes after starting to play as my foot settles into the shoe, the laces redistribute the tension, and my Thorlos compress a bit. I often need to retie them yet again at least one more time.

    You mendion that your weight is too high. Do you think this is the biggest problem in generating too much force onto your feet? Is there realistically room for improvement here?
     
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    There's a guy I play with that had heel issues with his New Balance's - I will have to ask him what model of NB he was wearing.
     
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    i did not like these shoes very much. i felt that the side support (plastic strip) was too stiff and unforgiving.

    on the other hand, the 803 was great for the month that it lasted, and the 654 has actually been great all around so far.
     
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    i have not tried these shoes but have 2 pairs of the New Balance 548 WT and have not ever had a problem with them.
    i like new balance better than any tennis shoes i have tried recently.
     
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  12. mike53

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    Get a shoe that secures your foot with an external strap over the arch like this:
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Propulse_2_Titanium/descpageMSBAB-BMPP2B.html

    The strap keeps your foot from sliding forward. A mid cut shoe will also help.
     
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    I'm considering cutting some 100 grit sand paper, like an insert, so it grabs my socks and stops me from slipping. Too much mass going forward and too explosive on my stops/starts, is causing some rare injuries no one else seems to be getting. My foot is too wide for that shoe, 4E. ONly New balance makes 4E shoes? What kind of bs is that? It's like hitting a concrete wall with their shoes. Nadal's shoe hurt my foot as well, and that's the breathable flexible one.
     
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    Sandpaper would probably sand the skin right off your foot. A lot of tennis shoes are wider than you might think from the size listings. Try on the KSwiss Ultrascendor mid cut. Wilson and Prince also make a wide shoe.
     
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    Thorlos are incredibly slippery socks. You might want to switch to another brand with Cool Max, Dri-Fit or any other moisture-wicking fabric.

    But if you like the Thorlos like I do, you can also put on another pair of socks (another brand) over the Thorlos to keep your feet from sliding.
     
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    Here is my podiatrist's order for keeping the foot from sliding and getting hammer toes, losing toe nails, etc:

    1. Buy shoes a half to full size larger.
    2. Lace them up really tight when playing tennis to prevent foot sliding.
    3. Keep toe nails trimmed.

    I lost my big toe nails several times in the past, but following his advice, my toe nails have been incredibly happy.
     
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    I think a part of your problems is that perhaps your feet are extremely wide towards the toe area but quite narrow towards the ankle area. That may be why you are looking for 4E or larger yet are experiencing slippage.

    But then again, I have no idea how your ankle braces and insole inserts are contributing to the slippage. Perhaps those are made of slippery material.

    By the way, your photos show early signs of bunions and bunionettes. You ought to go see your foot doctor.
     
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    I think in general newbalance sucks anyway. new shoe 900 D or 2E or whatever. what does the letters mean anyway ??? 900 D i tried on in the store felt really good. but then if you play in them, it might be a different story.
    FYI,,,,,,NB 900 D received the HIGHEST score in the last month issue of TENNIS magazine......
     
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  19. Ajtat411

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    I have the 1004 shoes and love them although if you don't tighten the shoe laces, they will slide an create hammer toe. Take Scotus's advice.

    I had the 654 also, the 1004 feels a lot more comfy but the 654 were stiffer if you like that type of feel playing tennis.

    I think you just have unique feet so no many shoe brands will have shoe that fits you perfectly. They make shoe for the regular joe's feet, anything else and they end up wasting money.
     
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    The letters refer to the width of the show.

    Most mens shoes are cut in D width. Its asfe to assume any shoe not labled other wise is a D.

    Womens shoes gemerally are a C width standard. I have seen smaller men with narrow feet go to womens shoes because of the width.

    The scale is pretty dumb and though with the letters, because its not really a designated standard.

    Most Braanock devices (the feet measurer thingy) go with AAA, AA, A, B, C, D, E, EE, or EEE.

    Haloti Ngata of the Ravens weras a size 15 5E.
     
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