Anyone know about Prince Recoil string?

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  1. mongting

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    I got one set of Prince Recoil 16 string. (Racket seller sent me this as a freebie.) I think it is discontinued. Is it Multi or Poly? How did you feel when you used it?
     
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  2. darklore009

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    i tried it once, it's actually a solid core mutli string with a special coating. it's an interesting string to play with. it plays like a poly to me, but without the harsh feeling of a poly. it's crisp and solid. good durability too. the recoil is discontinued. lucky that you got it for free
     
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  3. mikeler

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    I only used it as a main string. I intended to test it in a full bed but the coating on it is so darn slippery, the string slipped through one of my knots after I tightened it. Didn't seem like anything special to me.
     
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  4. corners

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    It's actually a nylon monofilament (syngut) wrapped in PTFE made by Gore. PTFE is sometimes trademarked as Teflon, but they PTFE they used is very similar to the membrane used in Gore-tex jackets or sold as dental floss (the white, super slippery kind). It is a white ribbon wrapped around the string.

    Extremely slippery. I liked it as a softer alternative to copoly in the crosses with gut mains. Really liked that setup, as it was very comfortable, powerful and spin-friendly. Durability was not the best, however, as it seemed that the edges of the wraps or the overlaps created little ridges that sawed through the gut mains.

    Prince later brought out hybrid sets of shaped copoly mains (EXP, I think) and Recoil crosses. I never tried that, but it seemed a very good idea to me. I remember reading that one poster found the combo to last for a very long time, much longer than a full bed of copoly.

    But people complained a lot about the price, and Prince eventually pulled Recoil from the market. Nowadays there are several of the softer copolys that are on par with Recoil in terms of low stiffness, and that are just as slippery. No copoly delivers the energy return of Recoil, though. If they could have produced it cheaper I think it would have caught on more widely. But Gore doesn't mess around with their profit margin.
     
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  5. mongting

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    WOW. Never expected this detailed information. Thank you so much.
     
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  6. fuzz nation

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    Same super-slippery experience for me when trying to install this string for my pal. The jaw on my drop-weight machine had a lot of trouble holding tension and it took me about twice the time to fight this stuff into the racquet. I was actually surprised that I didn't botch the job and wreck the string. No experience on the courts with it, but that was my only attempt at installation.
     
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  7. darklore009

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    also forgot to mention my experience with stringing with it. a pure nightmare. the string is REALLY slippery. couldnt do it on my dropweight. had to go over my friend's house to use his neos use to string that recoil
     
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  8. mikeler

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    If Corners answers a question, there will be details. Lot of 'em!


    I have a lockout and did not experience any problems pulling tension.


    Good to see I was not the only person who had problems with this string.
     
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  9. Buford T Justice

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    Yes....although I was a tad disappointed that he did not give us the name of the CEO of the PTFE supplier Gore, and their latest P/E ratio! Also, we did not determine if the PTFE was actually a Gore designed formulation, or one from DuPont which they are licensed to produce. LOL

    Good stuff!
     
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  10. mikeler

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    And just so Corners knows, I really do enjoy his posts. Just having a little fun...
     
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  11. Buford T Justice

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    Same here............
     
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  12. corners

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    Thanks guys. Ribbing well taken :)

    I also saw some serious slippage on the stringer with this stuff. A guy with a fancy bab machine was stringing for me then and I felt like I had to watch The gripper like a hawk because he was always in a hurry. Part of the reason I stopped using it. I was never really sure the string was getting tensioned consistently.
     
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  13. myusername

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    Remake the recoil.

    Best spin set up I ever had was the prince 3D on the mains and the recoil on the crosses. Sick spin. Top spin lobs bounce over the back fence. Haven't been able to replicate since they discontinued. If you check the TW friction charts it's the top non poly to hybrid with. Full poly is to stiff for me and I bought up as much recoil as possible. Prince messed up when they discontinued this string. It is truly unique. They just marketed it wrong. They focused on string re-alignment and not on string movement and snap back which gave great spin and energy return. I didn't have problems with notching either despite mixing it with a triangular string. You now see other companies coating their syn gut strings to make them more slippery. Bab N.vy and Goshen OG sheep micro. I'll try them next.
     
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  14. themitchmann

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    It was pricing that prevented that string from becoming popular. $20 a set.
     
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  15. JT_2eighty

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    So I was at a local indoor club in my area, and they had a ton of recoil packs. Selling them for $5 a set... I almost bought them but I have too many strings as it is. I might go back there, as I always did want to try it out with gut mains.
     
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  16. corners

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    Definitely try it with gut mains. I wasn't comparing strings head to head at the time I used gut/Recoil, so I'm not sure, but my recollection is that it might have been my favorite setup ever. At $5, with the option to stock up, it's worth a try.
     
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  17. travlerajm

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    I tried recoil as a cross with kevlar mains in my O3 Red. It was unremarkable - played just like any syn gut. I still have a few sets that I never used again.

    The coating seemed too soft to get good interstring sliding action with the set-up.

    It was also much heavier than most syn gut strings, since PTFE is denser than nylon, and it lacks the air space of most syn guts.
     
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  18. Fletch92626

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    I had a similar experience as many of the posters. The "recoil" concept worked well, as the strings moved quite a bit but snapped back in place due to the coating. I found it to be a reasonably powered string with decent spin, but less than a poly. The feel was average; a little springy for my taste. Big problem for me was durabilty at the price point Prince sold the string at. Basically would last me eight or so hours of tennis before I snapped it.
     
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  19. ricki

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    I have around 15 packages in my treasury chest. I consider it as most interesting string released so far (sadly I cant find those Gamma steel strings anywhere). The older packaging had great looking holographic sticker and wording: "the future of string is here". Its unique string and I give prince a big PLUS for releasing it. Nowadays all strings are boring. Also have Prince Stoplight synguts that have 3 different colored layers and as they wear out you see Green-Orange-Red color :)
     
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  20. niktub

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    what would be the closest string available today???
     
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  21. DE19702

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    That's a good question as Recoil was my favorite string and I needed a replacement. The closest I have found is Dunlop Hexy Fiber. Its about 4 times cheaper than Recoil as well.
     
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