Anything actually work for low back pain?

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  1. heycal

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    Foundation training

    Update: I ordered the download version of the Foundation Training DVD and have been doing the exercises and workouts for a couple of weeks now. It may actually be helping a bit, much to my surprise.

    Will continue with it, and report back again. Thanks for everyone's input.
     
  2. charliefedererer

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    That is really great that you are finally getting some relief!
     
  3. RogueFLIP

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    Good to hear that you may be getting some relief.

    Could you briefly describe the basic premise of the Foundation method?
     
  4. heycal

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    Thanks, guys. I was skeptical, but my back seems to have improved some. I probably spend over 30-45 minutes doing this stuff everyday.

    Thanks to Powerofchoice for steering me in this direction. Too early for me to say for sure "this definitely works, and will continue to work and solve my back pain for good", but so far it seems to be helping.

    Powerofchoice could probably better describe the premise of the method than I could. Or perhaps the Foundation website could. I'm not actually 100% sure what the premise is actually...
     
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  5. RiggensAuroraHO

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    Just got XLIF spine surgery two days ago to have my L4/5 fused with dynamic rods. I haven't felt this good in decades!!!
     
  6. Thepowerofchoice

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    Awesome! I'm glad you are making some progress. I sure hope this will continue to work for you. I am still lower back pain-free and intend to stay that way. I integrated Foundation training into my resistance training program and feeling strong with more balance. Good luck.
     
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    I did not read through all the responses, BUT one tip I can say works, get a personal trainer that will strenghten your CORE..this has "fixed" my back pain since my spinal stenosis surgery:)
     
  9. Thud and blunder

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    Wow!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/07/antibiotics-cure-back-pain-patients

    "Up to 40% of patients with chronic back pain could be cured with a course of antibiotics rather than surgery, in a medical breakthrough that one spinal surgeon says is worthy of a Nobel prize."

    "Specialists who deal with back pain have long known that infections are sometimes to blame, but these cases were thought to be exceptional. That thinking has been overturned by scientists at the University of Southern Denmark who found that 20% to 40% of chronic lower back pain was caused by bacterial infections."

    "The Danish team describe their work in two papers published in the European Spine Journal. In the first report, they explain how bacterial infections inside slipped discs can cause painful inflammation and tiny fractures in the surrounding vertebrae."

    "In the second paper, the scientists proved they could cure chronic back pain with a 100-day course of antibiotics. In a randomised trial, the drugs reduced pain in 80% of patients who had suffered for more than six months and had signs of damaged vertebra under MRI scans."
     
  10. Chas Tennis

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    That would be hugh!

    There was a similar discovery in the 1980's when it was discovered that bacteria were causing a large percentage of peptic ulcers. One friend of mine was cured. There was another friend who had had serious ulcer issues for 15-20 years - I had lost track of him and don't know if the discovery helped him.

    http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2005/press.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Marshall
     
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  11. Thud and blunder

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    Yeah, that case would seem to be directly analogous...this really has the potential to be absolutely massive if confirmed.
     
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    ^^ it would also be interesting to know why the more highly regarded British medical journals (Lancet, British Medical Journal) rejected this paper, forcing the author to seek publication elsewhere. Were they not satisfied with the methodology, were the statistical analyses not satisfactory.......
     
  13. Thud and blunder

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    Well, as you surely know better than most here, one paper in itself doesn't mean all that much, Lancet, BMJ or not. Results need to be replicated, methodology and statistical methods need to be interrogated etc, and ultimately, after a body of work coalesces, a consensus emerges (or not, as the case may be...). But I find the hypothesis highly intriguing; YMMV.
     
  14. charliefedererer

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    Anyone know how many in Great Britain get epidural injections to relieve chronic low back pain?

    I know pain clinics in the US do epidural injections fairly frequently to relieve low back pain, hoping to "interrupt the pain cycle".

    But there has been a rash of infections from this source:
    Multistate Outbreak of Fungal Infection Associated with Injection of Methylprednisolone Acetate Solution from a Single Compounding Pharmacy — United States, 2012
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6141a4.htm


    Could there also be infections from the indolent Propionibacterium acnes?
     

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