AO 2011: Hewitt vs Nalbandian (Round 1)

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Hewitt vs Nalbandian

Poll closed Jan 17, 2011.
  1. Hewitt in 3

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%
  2. Hewitt in 4

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  3. Hewitt in 5

    8 vote(s)
    13.6%
  4. Nalbandian in 5

    8 vote(s)
    13.6%
  5. Nalbandian in 4

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  6. Nalbandian in 3

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    11.9%
  1. MethodTennis

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    Yes I see there is a thead about this on the first page but no poll in it so im gonna make one with a poll

    Head to Head
    Hewitt lead 3-2 in matches, 9-6 in sets, 2-1 in best of 5 set matches

    Nalbandian won their last meating in 09 and their previous meeting in 05 in the davis cup.

    They are tie at 1 all in hard court meetings

    Hewitt won their last and only AO meeting in 2005 6-3, 6-2, 1-6, 3-6, 10-8
    Stats for this match are available here :
    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=N301&oId=H432#
     
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  2. Fedace

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    I think Nalby has a mental block ever since he got his butt kicked in Wimbledon final.
     
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  3. MethodTennis

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    Possibly, he won the last two matches though so maybe he's over it plus that was years ago probably doesnt even cross his mind when he goes on to play hewitt now
     
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  4. effervescence

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    Kind of sad that these two have to meet so early, what with Hewitt being the home favourite and Nalby making a sort of comeback. But I'm still rooting for Nalby, I guess.
     
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  5. aceX

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    I reckon Nalby will win
     
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  6. Underhand

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    The battle of has-beens.
     
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  7. NadalAgassi

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    I doubt it. Nalbandian has actually done fairly well vs Hewitt since then. And I am sure Nalbandian knows as anyone else that he never had a prayer at that time on that surface in that particular match.
     
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  8. dandelion_smiley

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    I think we're lucky to have them playing one another in the first round cause if they were to meet in the 2nd or 3rd round one of them (or both) would probably falter. Can't wait for the match
     
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  9. Fedace

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    I just found out Hewitt won the Kooyoung. I don't know what got into him but that new VCORE racket must be a miracle. I wouldn't be surprised if Hewitt won the aussie open in 2 weeks time..
     
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  10. Li Ching Yuen

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    Hewitt will win this one simply because he's not fat.
     
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  11. [Z]engin

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    I think Nalby is going to upset the Australian crowd.
     
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  12. joeri888

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    This one should have been a third or fourth round :(
    I think the lack of respect for these two greats in some posts is unexplainable. Two great players they once were and they still hit a decent ball.

    it's the match of the first round and I'm really hoping for a fiveset epic. Who comes out on top is not something I care much about.
     
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  13. NadalAgassi

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    Nalbandian was never a great. No slam title and only 1 slam final. If anything he is overrated by many people. I always laugh when people try and compare his talent level to Federer and others.

    Hewitt is underrated by some. He was a really great player once. On the other hand he still is sort of an interim #1 even at his best.
     
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  14. Fedace

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    Will he Spit at Hewitt ??:confused:
     
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  15. joeri888

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    Go try win a Masters cup. You are the one comparing him to Federer. Nalbandian was no hall of famer, but he was great. Just like Davydenko, or Murray, or Rios, or Ivanisevic before 2001, or Henman.. etc.


    Hewitt indeed is underrated. he and roddick matched up pretty badly against Roger at a certain point, but he was a great player between 2000 and 2005.
     
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  16. NadalAgassi

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    What a dumb cop out logic. I cant do what Donald Young can do and neither can you. We should start calling him great to. What is the point of discussing the pros on here at all. Lets just call everyone great great great since they are being compared to the posters here and stop discussions altogether. Now back to earth.

    No I am not. I am in fact one who would never be so dumb to compare an overhyped slamless pretender like Nalbandian to Federer. It is others who have said things like "Nalbandian is more talented than Federer" "Nalbandian would beat Federer with both playing their best" "Nalbandian should have won half of Federer's slams" "Nalbandian would kill Nadal everytime" "Nalbandian has the best backhand ever, and one of the all time best forehands (lol)". To see someone suggesting he is underrated around here is one of the most laughable things I have ever read. He is perhaps the most overrated player on this forum. He gets way too much respect here.

    Nobody even talks about Rios, Davydenko, or Henman. Nobody would even dare say they were more talented than Federer. And Murray is a young player who should win slams.
     
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  17. joeri888

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    I get your point. All I was saying is that I think a player that was ranked 3 in the world and won something as valuable as the Masters Cup was great.
    heck, in my opinion even massu can be called great for winning what he won. At least he shouldn't be called a fat non-player who can do nothing.

    I agree that Nalbandian is overrated at one stage, but he WAS a very good player, and I feel a lot of older players quickly lose their credit. Same goes for guys like Hewitt, Roddick, Ferrero etc.
     
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  18. ruerooo

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    NadalAgassi, D-Nal actually has a fairly even H2H with both Rafa and Roger (much to my chagrin). Do you remember IW 2009 when he had 5 match points against Rafa? Or TMC 2007, when he coolly took Roger apart? His angles, when he's on, can be very very dangerous. He's more mentally vulnerable than anything.

    This gets more and more interesting. I thought he might win in Auckland and that adrenaline might carry him in, and I didn't expect Lleyton to win at Kooyong. But now I hear he did, and D-Nal lost to Ferru in the Auckland final, so there may be some mental fatigue there.

    I agree with those who say it's a shame this is a first-round matchup.
     
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  19. joeri888

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    On the other hand, it would also be a shame if a guy like Hewitt made third round, and then went out to someone like Mayer or Golubev. hewitt-Nalbandian won't happen that many times anymore, but I feel that hewitt could still go far here if he had a decent draw for once. He wouldn't lose to a nobody I think. He against Ferrer in fourth round and then MAYBE Rafa in the quarters would be great.

    But then again, I feel for Nalby i n that case because he's climbing his way back to top 20.
     
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  20. rovex

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    How long till this match starts?
     
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  21. seffina

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    It's not today. The top half of the draw plays on Tuesday.
     
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  22. NadalAgassi

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    He is 3-10 with Federer since the 2003 TMC. Basically prime Federer owns Nalbandian. The only surface Nalbandian is competitive is indoors where Federer still leads 5-3 in that span. On clay Nalbandian trails 3-0. On outdoor hard courts Nalbandian trails 2-0 and lost both meetings with prime Federer easily at the Australian and U.S Opens (in 2004 and 2005 when Nalbandian was also in his prime). And needless to say grass would be a blowout, but of course little chance of Nalbandian ever getting far enough to play Federer on grass.

    So when it comes to prime Federer Nalbandian almost always loses and the surface he presents the biggest threat is a non slam surface (indoors). He never has had a hope of beating prime Federer at the Australian, Wimbledon, the U.S Open, even the French Open. Thus Nalbandian is almost a complete irrelevance to the career of prime Federer.


    Now onto Nadal. Yes their current head to head is 2-2. Both of Nalbandian's wins were indoors during the month of tennis of his life. He could have won their 3rd meeting but didnt. If Nalbandian wants to keep his equal head to head he had better avoid ever playing Nadal again. And god help Nalbandian if he ever has to play Nadal on either clay or grass where Nadal would destroy him. Lots of players can be competitive with Nadal on hard courts even today, especialy indoor, and lots of the good players (top 15 players of this generation) would potentially have a 2-2 with Nadal if they only played him on hard courts, and 2 of the matches were indoors.

    Nalbandian did not even qualify for the TMC 2007 so no I dont remember that match as it never took place. I do remember Indian Wells. Like I said lots of top players can compete with Nadal on hard courts, and Nadal still won in the end as he will win most if not all his future meetings with Nalbandian on hard courts (I doubt Nalbandian will even get far enough to play him on clay or grass but smackdown city if he does). Of course Nalbandian is past his prime but Nadal wasnt in his prime at the time of his only 2 losses to Nalbandian either.


    In the end 16 slams, 9 slams (at only 24), 0 slams.
     
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  23. rovex

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    Your condescending posts make me LOL big time davey25/thalivest/anointed one.
     
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  24. MethodTennis

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    A very even vote its usually really one sided on here because of some stupid bias towards one player :)
     
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  25. ruerooo

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    Can a girl get some help?
    Do we know what time (Melbourne time) their match is supposed to be?
     
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  26. Mustard

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    Hewitt in 3 straight sets.
     
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  27. babbette

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    when are these 2 playing?
     
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    They will definitely play on tuesday. It's not yet known what time it will be played, but I can guarantee you it will be a night session.
     
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  29. babbette

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    my mouth is already watering!
     
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  30. ruerooo

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    Melbourne prime time, huh?

    I may have to miss it. Darn.

    I can't deal with a 4am wakeup time for anybody other than Rafa or Roger.

    Thank you, westside.
     
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  31. rodrigoamaral

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    nalbandian with 4 sets for this one..
     
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  32. laboule

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    Nalbandian in 3 straight sets. Love to see his hips move when he strikes the ball :)
     
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  33. ruerooo

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    :shock: at the poll.

    Can't think if I've ever seen a spread that even, ever, on TT.
     
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  34. FlamEnemY

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    It's even more even now that I voted Nalby in 3 ;)
     
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    I like them both, but I'm hoping Hewitt takes it!
     
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  36. bezs

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    Second match for the night session, right after Safina vs Clijsters. Safina vs Clijsters could go either way a blowout or a long one hopefully a long one so i can watch the Nalby match at home.
     
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    Hewitt in 4. I think he's showed a great form recently .

    He is also more successful outdoor hardcourt player than Nalbandian. AO crowd will be rooting for him. Generally, he has better fitness than Nalbandian which is very important in 3/5 matches ( can't know that for sure in the current situation though).
     
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  38. destroyer

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    Will watch, like Nalbandian's strokes.
    Like Hewitt for his effort.
    Win win
     
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    Hewitt takes care of bidness. dismissed nalby in 4 tightly contested sets .... :smile:
     
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  40. chrischris

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    I think Nalby has a fat chance but i am leaning Hewitts way on this one:)
     
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  41. JoelDali

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    Connors in 5.
     
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  42. P_Agony

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    Nalbandian is a bag of talent. Sadly due to his mindset, injuries and fitness he could never get far, but when he was at the top of his game, nobody, not Fed or Nadal, could do anything against him. In fact, I consider Nalby a greater natural talent than Nadal, and about on par with Federer.
     
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    I would like them both to win but I'll go with Nalby in 4 or 5.
     
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  44. NadalAgassi

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    LOL so if you take Nalbandian playing his best ever tennis and put him up against Federer or Nadal playing their best ever tennis Nalbandian will win? Hell no. And on grass he would be humiliated by either in that hypothetical, and on clay he would be mauled by Nadal, or on an outdoor hard court by Federer in that scenario too. Nalbandian would probably (maybe) beat Nadal indoors which is Nalbandian's best surface and Nadal's worst by far in that scenario but that is it. Where is the proof of Nalbandian's best being unbeatable, winning 2 Masters on his favorite surface back to back as his career high point, or once barely beating a hobbled injured Federer in the TMF final missing everyone else in the top 6, LOL!

    Your whole quote is just proof of how overrated he is so thanks.

    Even someone like Hewitt is far and away a greater player than Nalbandian regardless what happens in this match with both in their twlight years (especialy Hewitt). U.S and Wimbledon winner (destroying Nalbandian in one of his best tournaments ever in the latter), two time year end #1, and two time WTF winner vs a 1 time WTF winner. I agree Nalbandian is an underachiever in that he maybe could have had a Hewitt like career if he had fully applied himself and be lucky enough to peak during an interim period like Hewitt. Nalbandian at best might have Hewitt-caliber talent (nowhere near Hewitt caliber results of course).
     
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  45. Cesc Fabregas

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    Hewitt will out compete fatboy, Lleyton in 4.
     
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    Partually agree. Bad luck he is not so quick as Rafa, not so consistent like Rog, but definitely he is one of few pros just close behind..
    Yet, I would call Safin and Murray to his band...

    Nalby will out Rasty in 4.
     
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  47. Li Ching Yuen

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    It's pretty hard to have any expectations of being quick when you're having a ****ing gut.
     
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    hahahaha. good old fat dave.
     
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  49. blackfrido

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    can't wait for this match.
     
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  50. NadalAgassi

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    Safin is way more talented than Nalbandian. Unlike Nalbandian, Safin can beat Federer when Federer is playing his best. The idea Nalbandian could is a complete myth.
     
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