AO 2011 R2 - Stanislas Wawrinka [19] vs Grigor Dimitrov

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Poll closed Jan 19, 2011.
  1. Wawrinka in 3

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  2. Wawrinka in 4

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  3. Wawrinka in 5

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  4. Dimitrov in 3

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  5. Dimitrov in 4

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  6. Dimitrov in 5

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  1. forzamilan90

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    happy that my alarm clock worked and watching this, though my guy needs to pick it up a bit
     
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  2. Pwned

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    30-40 .


    And deuce
     
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  3. Bryan Swartz

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    Completely agree with Devilito.

    Obviously he's a much better player than #105. I'd say top 50 based on what I'm seeing of his level right now. He needs big match experience. He needs to play as many matches as possible against Top 30 competition, and handling that transition from playing Challengers to being a main-draw ATP guy, playing tough competition every week.

    The most important thing about this match is not whether he upsets Stan -- it's about him giving it his best, learning from it.

    Will be interesting to see how he grows into that this year. Definitely more impressive than any other young player I've seen on the tour.
     
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  4. FlamEnemY

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    Aw come on :(
     
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  5. Devilito

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    his return is killing him. Easy serves he's missing.
     
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  6. Pwned

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    First set Stan.
     
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  7. danielrios

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    oUCH!!!!!!!!
     
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  8. Devilito

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    one thing i like about his game is he has the ability to flatten out shots and finish points. Most young players use so much spin they have no weapons. This guy is full of weapons but he needs to learn how to use them. If he has an off day he's going to get slaughtered unless he learns to mix things up a bit
     
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  9. Devilito

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    his service game will take him a long way. Most mediocre players can serve big but don't follow it up, turning the serve from a weapon to a rally starter. He's very agressive on his service game and punishes short returns. That's going to be key for him in close matches.
     
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  10. danielrios

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    Classy Dimi, Love Grigito
     
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  11. jman

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    i'm so impressed with dimitrov. DEF believe the hype. Boy has got game, but needs more experience against the top dogs like Stan and so forth.
     
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  12. kanamit

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    Dimitrov could be great. If only he replaced his parents with real coaches.
     
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    Big hold for Grigor.
     
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  14. FlamEnemY

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    Nice little DS. 2-1
     
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  15. forzamilan90

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    i rather like his serves motion, forehand motion, and backhand motion, the grey shorts seem sort of familiar too
     
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  16. Devilito

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    he's not going to get bullied off the court. Nice couple of points to hold serve
     
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  17. FlamEnemY

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    He's training with a "real" coach actually :confused:
     
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  18. jman

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    Peter McNamara is his coach. Aussie Aussie Aussie...
     
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  19. shadows

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    Everyone knows he's Peter McNamara's illegitimate love child ¬__¬
     
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  20. kanamit

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    It was a lame joke intended to reference Donald Young
     
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  21. Bryan Swartz

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    I was looking at what events he played last year -- almost all challengers and even a couple futures.

    Only ATP main draw he was in was London(lost in second round). So he's really got to be a fish out of water right now -- the learning curve will be steep for a while, but I agree with the assessment in this thread: he's got the weapons to be quite good.

    Exactly how good we won't know for some time.

    Also agree that return of serve is his biggest weakness technically. Hope he puts a ton of work in there.
     
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  22. jman

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    Wawa breaks for a 3-2 lead in the second.
     
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  23. Li Ching Yuen

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    He's good, has more potential than Berankis for example, who is a better player at the moment than him. (same age)

    But Wawrinka is a bad player to play your 2nd round slam match. He's an "old" dog with a devilish serve which will seem like a mountain for the young federerian Bulgarian.
     
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  24. ChiefAce

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    Return of serve, footwork, and shot selection is where Grigor needs to focus. His small adjustment steps could be better, he tends to lazily move to some balls.
     
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  25. jman

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    wawa consolidates break leading 4-2 now
     
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  26. Pwned

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    Another break for Stan.
     
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  27. namelessone

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    People are overhyping this kid, let's just wait and see. True, he's got some fluid strokes in his game and he can definitely move and is not a dud like donald young but come on, let's wait another 1-2 years. If he doesn't win anything decent(like at least a 250-500 event) by age 21 I don't think he will make it big.

    But comparing him to Fed, even early Fed... come on, let's get real.
     
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  28. Pwned

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    Nice game from Dimitrov to get one break back.
     
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  29. danielrios

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    1 break back
     
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  30. Li Ching Yuen

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    One thing that I like is that he's playing fast. We didn't need another Nadal.
     
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  31. Bryan Swartz

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    Definitely his best return game of the match so far there to get one of them back.
     
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  32. Devilito

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    5 matches in 6 days might also come into play here on some level
     
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  33. Bryan Swartz

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    He's not the next Federer and shouldn't try to be.

    What he should be, and hopefully is, focusing on is being the first Dimitrov! :).
     
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  34. Pwned

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    And Stan breaks back to take the 2nd. Hopefully Grigor plays great and takes the third.
     
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  35. Devilito

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    Stan is playing good as well which isn't helping the noob
     
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  36. jman

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    2nd set to Wawa 6-3
     
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  37. jman

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    This is such a good point. All the comparisons and expectations are too big a burden for any 19 year old. But it's so hard not to think about it when former coaches and peers say it all the time.

    Hopefully he comes through the expectations and plays as Dimitrov.
     
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  38. Mortifier

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    A little S/V... IT MUST BE FEDERER! :shock:
     
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  39. Enigma_87

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    Can't see the comparisons with Federer really.

    Federer was a late bloomer but close to his 20's he had big enough game to take out Sampras as 4 times defending champion at Wimbey. He was just inconsistent at the time, but his forehand, serve and movement was extraordinary.

    Dimitrov is an excellent prospect, but not a patch on young Federer.
     
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  40. Pwned

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    Good defense there.
     
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  41. Legend of Borg

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    A good experience for Grigor.

    He's obviously losing this match, but it will help him in the long run.
     
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  42. klementine

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    First time I've gotten the chance to see Dimitrov play... how old is he??? 19????

    He's got good strokes... But lacks strategy... Warwinka's got this one in the bag.
     
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  43. danielrios

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    Federer used to imitate Sampras, then found himself. I hope he find his own game. He has the talent.
     
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  44. Legend of Borg

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    Hmm, that approach shot was Roddick like.

    Not good.
     
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  45. jman

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    It's so wierd, cause i remember watching young federer in his hey days, and def see more potential with Dimitrov. Forehands are on par, Backhand +1 Dimitrov, Serve +1 Dimitrov, Volley's +1 Young Fed, Movement +1 Young Fed, and mentality? don't know yet. young fed was a headcase, haven't seen too much of dimitrov's persona yet to judge.
     
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  46. joke-a-vich

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    he is def looking tired, but he has about 6 matches on stan. i have been impressed with him though, hope he stays healthy and can improve!
     
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  47. Enigma_87

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    In what way?

    Federer had much better serve than Dimitrov at his age. Fh, again - much better forehand.

    Looks like Stan will go through in straights. Leading 4-1 in the 3rd.

    30-30
     
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  48. Legend of Borg

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    His movement is definitely lacking.

    He's not as explosive as his idol.

    How do you learn movement?
     
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  49. joke-a-vich

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    nice forehand dropper :)
     
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  50. Legend of Borg

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    A page from the man himself.
     

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