AO 2013 SF: Li vs Sharapova

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by soyizgood, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. Kalin

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    I didn't see the match but seems like Masha desperately head a head coach to go with her strokes coach. Her self-distracting mannerisms, most obvious in her little mincing steps together with her general victim-in-waiting demeanour have been very disconcerting even when she was double-bagelling opponents and now it has all caught up with her.

    Maybe Tsonga was right, after all...

    Edit: maybe self-destructing is an even more appropriate description of her mannerisms... at times she makes Mary Pierce look like a pillar of mental stability
     
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  2. kpktennis

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    What'd Tsonga say?
     
  3. BreakPoint

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    I assume you're being sarcastic? Because that exactly how Federer fans feel about your god Nadal! :oops:
     
  4. Prisoner of Birth

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    Epic win! :)
     
  5. ruerooo

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    That was ... truly a new level of over-the-top.
     
  6. kpktennis

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    Too bad that with few exceptions Fed can't seem to beat Rafa when it counts ^^
     
  7. veroniquem

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    Ah you noticed it too? I was wondering if I was the only one. She always looks like she's suffering martyrdom on the court. It's so annoying. At first I genuinely tried to evaluate what was bothering her but she does it every match, so I just gave up.
     
  8. Love Game

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    Li Na my hero! One tennis spoiling screamer down, one to go ..... Let's go, Sloane! Put the hoot owl to sleep!
     
  9. BreakPoint

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    The WTF counts for a lot. As do Indian Wells and Madrid and Miami and Hamburg and.......etc.
     
  10. veroniquem

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    That women's tennis is less consistent due to hormones :)
     
  11. BreakPoint

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    Seriously, EVERY one of your comments sounds more like you're talking about Nadal than anyone else.
     
  12. kpktennis

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    Ooh werd, he meant dat menstruation
     
  13. soyizgood

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    I said Li was an even bet for the match. Glad I started this SF thread. :) Now win it all, Li!
     
  14. kpktennis

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    ^^ Seems like Sharapova's cycle is forever synced w/ the four grand slams from her on court demeanor
     
  15. veroniquem

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    Not my fault if you're being paranoid.
     
  16. kpktennis

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    Yeah ur right we'll just ignore the 7-2 (off the top of my head) GS h2h
     
  17. BreakPoint

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    Not my fault that everything you're saying is absolutely true.......about Nadal!
     
  18. BreakPoint

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    Um...how many of those were on clay? :???:
     
  19. kpktennis

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    Clay isn't a surface? You're right we'll just remove wins on Roger's fav. surface and Nadal is sitting pretty at 7-0
     
  20. kpktennis

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    Also interesting considering your previous comments, Clay takes the most point construction
     
  21. BreakPoint

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    Really? How many times have you EVER seen Nadal serve and volley or chip and charge on clay?
     
  22. kpktennis

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    Use your brain a little and you will see the error in your logic, and if you don't trust me how many times have you heard the veteran player announcers talk about so and so training or learning the game on clay with regards to point construction. Slow surface=more shots per rally=having to construct a point. Try not to think so one dimensionally. I'm done with this discussion, clearly you know nothing about tennis
     
  23. veroniquem

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    They're just looking for excuses. There is nothing wrong with power per se. A lot of players have power as well as other assets like touch, variety, speed, etc. The problem is when a player uses power and nothing else, which is the case for Sharapova.
     
  24. BreakPoint

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    Um....hitting the same topspin shots over and over from the baseline is NOT point construction! Nadal just keeps hitting the same shots over and over until his opponent cries "Uncle!" and makes an error. That's as far from "point construction" as you can get!

    Oh, and I know more about tennis and have been playing tennis for longer than you've been alive!
     
  25. BreakPoint

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    You've just described Federer, not Nadal. :oops:

    Nadal is the male Sharapova - just another baseline ball basher.
     
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    Both Maria and Rafa were unbeatable on red clay last year, but nowhere else. They should play mixed doubles at the French Open. :)
     
  27. kpktennis

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    Getting your opponent more and more out of position with every subsequent ball until you either force the error or can go for the kill IS bread and butter point construction, it is all about taking your opponent's time away. Sorry if your Fed fetish doesn't allow you to see this
     
  28. President

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    Nadal posesses a lot more variety than Sharapova, he just doesn't need to use it very often because his groundstrokes are so good. But he definitely uses a very disciplined (and repetitive) strategy to defeat Federer, it might be boring but it works. Nadal has great natural touch and feel, Maria can't say the same..
     
  29. Polaris

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    I'm not a Nadal fan, but even I will take veroniquem's side here and say that that is way too harsh. :)

    Nadal is a baseline player and may not possess the on-the-fly creativity of Federer, but he is not a mindless baseline basher of the Sharapova variety. If anything, he is one of the most strategically sound baseline players ever.
     
  30. BreakPoint

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    No, you come to the net and put the ball away for a winner. THAT'S point construction! :)
     
  31. kpktennis

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    ^^ I didn't say it wasnt
     
  32. CEvertFan

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    Good win for Li Na considering Sharapova's form during the tournament - only losing 9 games up to the semi. Frankly I did give Li a chance but not to beat Shrieka, umm I mean Sharapova so easily.

    Too bad Stephens couldn't beat Azarenka - we could then have enjoyed a much QUIETER final. Happy that one of the finalists will be quiet though.
     
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  33. kpktennis

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    Also look at highlights of all the sick flick backhand winners Nadal has hit over the years at the French against Rog to see how bad Fed has failed at that very play
     
  34. kpktennis

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    Li showed some great composure on the big points, unlike Vika today. Makes me like her chances for the final
     
  35. cc0509

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    Disagree. Li Na is capable of variety for sure. Great game to watch.
     
  36. Amelie Mauresmo

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    Li Na does have variety in her game she can slice her backhand when on the defense she can volley well and she can change tactics when things aren't working.

    Sharapova is an idiot she has no Plan B she just hits the ball hard or harder. Sharapova was hoping that Li Na would choke like she did at the Italian Open last year in the final. But today it did not happen and Sharapova got smoked.
     
  37. NadalAgassi

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    That Rome collapse by Na was beyond pathetic, even for WTA standards. She seems more composed and stronger mentally with her new coach though. Henin used to be a headcase, but Rodriguez turned that around and made her mentality and cool under presure her strongest asset.
     
  38. TennisFan436

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    Rodriquez is molding Li Na into another Henin. I call it the Henin Project. Should be good for the game. Li has the shots but lacked the mental fortitude and patience. Glad to see that is no longer the case. She was very patient with her shots and I only saw her timid with one.

    She can definitely beat The Cheat.
     

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