AP: Woods Athlete of Decade

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  1. OddJack

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    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34446037/ns/sports-golf/

    "Woods received 56 of the 142 votes cast by AP member editors since last month. More than half of the ballots were returned after the Nov. 27 car accident outside his Florida home that set off sensational tales of infidelity.

    Lance Armstrong, a cancer survivor who won the Tour de France six times this decade, finished second with 33 votes. He was followed by Roger Federer, who won more Grand Slam singles titles than any other man, with 25 votes."


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    Who thinks his scandal should have played a role? I do for sure. When you single out anyone for achievements of a decade, he or she may be considered a role model. I wouldnt consider anyone a role model without moral values.
    Wrong choice.
     
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    I don't think that the scandal should've played a role, but chosing a golfer as best athlete of the decade? Seriously??

    They'll probably choose a chess player as the best athlete of the decade in 2019.
     
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    Athlete? Must be some sort of joke.

    He's definitely the top man**** of the decade.
     
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    Armstrong was voted second, this makes the whole thing look ridiculous.

    The winner of "athlete of the decade" is not playing a sport, and the runner-up used EPO during some of his greatest victories.

    They should give the Nobel Peace Prize to Bin Laden while they're at it.
     
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  7. CMM

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    Yes, Federer is the moral winner.
     
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  8. sureshs

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    #1: Tiger, sex scandal
    #2: Armstrong, doping scandal
    #3: Phelps, marijuana scandal
    #4: Federer.

    Sad state of sports if this is how it is. Makes you wonder why people still go around saying stuff like "sports builds character."

    Federer should have been #1 just for being the cleanest guy. The status of golf as a sport versus competitive recreation is always a question mark. And too many questions surrounding Armstrong.

    It should have been a contest between Phelps and Federer.
     
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    What a joke.
     
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    I agree, but I wouldn't call Phelps' case a "marijuana scandal".

    He just smoked some pot at a time when he was not competing, he didn't cheat anyone.
     
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    If Woods hadn't been caught, would he still be moral? (He was the poster boy for moral prior to November 27).
     
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    Was there any proof that he was doping?
     
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    On August 23, 2005, L'Équipe, a major French daily sports newspaper, reported on its front page under the headline "le mensonge Armstrong" ("The Armstrong Lie") that 6 urine samples taken from the cyclist during the prologue and five stages of the 1999 Tour de France, frozen and stored since at "Laboratoire national de dépistage du dopage de Châtenay-Malabry" (LNDD), had tested positive for Erythropoietin in recent retesting conducted as part of a research project into EPO testing methods.[68][69] For years, it had been impossible to detect the drug, called erythropoietin, which builds endurance by boosting the production of oxygen-carrying red blood cells. The world governing body of cycling, Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI), did not begin using a urine test for EPO until 2001, two years after the samples were taken. This claim was based on an investigation in which they claimed to be able to match samples from the 1999 Tour that were used to hone the EPO test to Armstrong.[70] To establish a link between Armstrong and the samples, the LNDD matched the tracking numbers on the samples with those on Armstrong's record with the UCI during the 1999 Tour.


    It's a disgrace that most americans see some kind of hero in this lying cheater.
     
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  14. sureshs

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    Yes. He is innocent until we know otherwise.
     
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  15. asafi2

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    On the contrary good sir...sports don't build character...they reveal it.
     
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  16. sureshs

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    I admit I was repeating rumors. I actually never followed his case with interest.
     
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    I agree OddJack! Giving this wan*ker the award is the equivalent of giving a legends of music award to the Spice Girls!

     
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  18. CMM

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    So why didn't they took his titles?
     
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    This poll was clearly nothing more than a popularity contest.

    Anyone care to guess where Tiger would place if the sex scandal broke before the voting took place (that is, assuming the majority of the voters are not women Tiger had serviced)???
     
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    This isn't a court of law. My question was if he was moral prior to November 27 (as the public assumed) and "pubic" enemy #1 thereafter (as the public assumes)?
     
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    Because Armstrong has an armada of lawyers and because (almost) no one in the sport of cycling wants a scandal of epic proportions.
     
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    Right, that is why I also said it should have been between Phelps and Federer. Difficult to call that one. Some people would say tennis is not a real sport (like we make fun of golf). That is why many do not want it in the Olympics. Federer lost to Nadal in 3 Slam finals, while no one came near Phelps. On the other hand, you are not going mano amano in swimming.

    You could say Nadal is, in a way, better than Federer, but no one is better than Phelps.

    Phelps would be #1 then.
     
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  23. sureshs

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    Don't believe that, either. It is just another cliche like the previous one. Sports did not reveal Tiger's character, a chance car accident did.
     
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    If you say so...
     
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  25. Spider

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    Woods deserves it, he is one of the greatest atheletes sports has ever seen. What happens in his personal life, shouldn't affect his professional achievement.

    He deserves it more than anyone. Federer deserved to be second though (and not third). Thank god Schumacher didn't get it. It would have been a joke then.
     
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    Woods?! LOOOOOL...Yeah right.Exactly what is athletic about Tiger Woods?
    I dont care about the scandal thats his
    personal life.
    I know there's a lot of skill involved in what he does but he is by no means the best 'athlete'.Or maybe I just dont consider golf as an athletic sport.
     
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    Golf requires exceptional skills and to dominate that the way Woods has done is just unimaginable. It is a phenomenal achievement something that will never ever be repeated again.
     
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    Since when the golf is considered like a sport, to start with....
    Then - athletes, the golfers?!?!?!??:shock: Yeah, right...whatEver...

    And give me a break with the skills and eye-hand coordination needed in golf... I too have skills and also, pretty good eye-hand coordination is needed for my hobby - knitting - someone please nominate me for Best Athlete Of The Century!
     
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    They wanted initially to give it to John Daly but changed their mind at the last minute...

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    Good thing that was never proven.
     
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    I still can't understand how a cyclist could be number two? You can't actually call a cyclist an athlete, you give him a vehicle to perform and now he is an athelete? I find that amusing. I think Roger deserved to be second on this list
     
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    I would like to add, people like Woods and Federer win because of their own exceptional talent. That is not the case with motor racing and anything similar to it. Therefore, Schumacher and Amrstrong don't deserve to be on that list.
     
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    Tiger is a doper who doesnt even play a real sport.
     
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    Probably all the women who got involved with him voted for Tiger.So that`s why he got the most votes
     
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    Wow you really must have no life to put that much.

    I think that both Woods and Armstrong are athletes. Cycling involves a high amt of endurance and strength. You try rididng a bike up a hill for 2+ hrs and tell me that doesn't involve athleticism.

    You're a dope who's probably never played a real sport. :rolleyes:

    Overall I have no problem W/Tiger winning. The old "Golf is/isn't a sport" debate is going to continue no matter what. Fact is a majority of people look at it as a sport. I think Fed has a better case, but since this is an American poll, it's expected that he wouldn't get as much love and respect.
     
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    this is a big fat joke!!

    Woods???athlete of the decade??

    hahahhhahaaaa
     
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    WHO would say tennis is not a real sport???
    The sureshs' of golf forums I suppose?

    Cyclism is not a sport???and Golf is>???are you for real?

    -I always knew there was something wrong in the brain of Murraytards.:rolleyes:
     
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    #1 Golf
    #2 Bike riding
    #3 Swimming
    #4 Tennis

    Was this for senior citizens?
     
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    Woods Athlete of Dickaid
     
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    Please don't make another post like this... it's obnoxious and annoying to those on low speed connections :-?
     
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    notice all are single sports-games in case of no.1 :rolleyes: . It is more difficult to stand out so much in group sports when the success depends on the whole team.
     
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    Everyone's got the right to be naive.
     
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    L'equipe is hardly, oh shall we say, unbiased where Armstrong is concerned. They hate him and will do anything, make up anything, to bring him down. L'equipe's findings were shoddy at best. And no, I'm not saying Armstrong didn't/doesn't dope. I'm saying L'equipe's allegations lack much of anything.
     
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    You forgot to add Federer's scandal.

    #4: Federer, fashion at Wimbledon scandal.
     
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    Fed's scandal is how he loses to Nadal all the time. Now the scandal has expanded to include Del Potro.
     
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    Federer is the best, period.
     
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    The US media is so in love with Tiger Woods. Of course he was going to get this award.

    The vote was not even that close. Even though Federer won more tournaments and more majors - in a shorter period of time - than Woods.

    It's really pathetic how the media is so smitten with golf. Which is not even a sport.

    Now that Federer is number 1 again, has broken the all-time record for most # of majors (where for art thou in the pecking order of majors won Mr Woods???) you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be even more popular. Sadly, you can bet that idiots like Charlie Bricker in the US media will be have their knives out for Federer, eager to chastise him for even a hint of a faux pas or shanked forehand.
     
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    L'equipe is one of the best sports newspapers.
     
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