April 12 rankings

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  1. Clemson_tennis

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    any thoughts on the new rankings?

    How the hell is UNC Wilmington 44? Idaho 46?

    Ohio State jumped USC for #2

    Georgia Tech into the top 16

    tournament bubble watch:

    40 Cal Poly
    41 Florida State
    42 Rice
    43 South Florida
    44 UNCW
    45 VCU
    46 Idaho
     
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  2. mikej

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    1 80.29 University of Virginia 1
    2 75.27 Ohio State University 3
    3 73.20 University of Southern California 2
    4 66.57 University of Tennessee 4
    5 60.80 University of Georgia 7
    6 60.29 Texas A&M University 5
    7 59.06 Baylor University 13
    8 58.21 Stanford University 9
    9 57.51 Pepperdine 6
    10 56.97 Duke University 11
    11 55.49 University of Texas 8
    12 54.36 California 10
    13 51.77 University of Kentucky 12
    14 49.67 UCLA 14
    15 47.48 Georgia Tech 18
    16 45.62 University of Florida 16
    17 45.12 University of Illinois 15
    18 40.63 Auburn University 21
    19 40.13 North Carolina 17
    20 39.83 University of Washington 22

    georgia at #5 is just silly (now i've gone a full 180 from earlier in the season after indoors when i was saying they weren't getting the credit they deserved)...they lost to georgia tech, so they aren't even in my top 3 in the ACC if they played in that conference...not hard to figure out why they're so high though - SEC is full of good but not great teams (Tenn excluded) so they keep getting quality wins every time out, even if many of their wins (4-3 over Louisville, 4-3 over Miss St and Ole Miss, etc.) indicate weakness more than strength in my book

    don't get me wrong, they're a very good team, just a team that will be lucky to survive to the quarters in NCAAs if you ask me

    per today's rankings, Duke and Stanford would meet for the right to play UVA...which would be awesome (Pepperdine not playing NCAAs for those that aren't aware of that, NCAA violations)
     
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  3. mikej

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    on the women's side, UF jumps undefeated Stanford again for whatever that is worth (not much)

    pretty much because UF has two wins against #3 Duke i would imagine, while Stanford hasn't played them
     
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  4. mackimac

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    Clemson Tennis,

    UNC Wilmington is a very strong team. I was looking at their schedule and they beat #43 South Florida and #49 Cornell Easily dropping only one point. They are a mid major program on the beach with two American Players in their top 3. That is pretty uncommon these days for a school that good. They have been in the top 50 the last couple of years anyway.

    Idaho is damn good too go look at their record they have beaten Boise, Hawaii, and some other very good teams. Just because they are not houshold names they can still play.

    I have both of these teams beating Clemson at the moment.
     
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  5. The Wreck

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    I think Georgia at 5 is deserved. (I'm biased.) Those 4-3 wins were against tough teams. They'd already beaten Louisville once, and everyone knows it's harder to beat a good team twice. Ole Miss beat Tennessee this year, so a 4-3 against them isn't bad. And they handled Florida as well. I mean, they are the SEC champions...top 5-7 seems about right. And they'll probably jump up to 4 if the beat UT on Saturday.
     
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  6. mikej

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    fair enough, it's hard to hate on a team that has won so many matches in a row, but i just think the scheduling has worked out nicely for them with lots of good opponents but very few great ones to hand them costly losses in the ranking points

    Ole Miss and Louisville are ranked 30 and 32, so I don't consider them tough at all, but a matter of opinion...I don't see other top 5 teams struggling with teams of this caliber

    and I see UGA is claiming they are SEC champions on their site...how is that exactly? UT has one loss, they have zero, and they play in a few days...seems to me if UT wins (as I expect they will, but who knows) then UGA has a share of the title at best, and in just about any tie-break format I can imagine UT would be the real champions

    creative marketing by UGA
     
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  7. mikej

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    after looking at Ole Miss's results, I guess I can't say they aren't tough

    inconsistent for sure, but they've had some scattered impressive results, so I take that back
     
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    Cal should be ranked #9 not Baylor.
     
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  9. The Wreck

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    Not sure how it works, but that is the way it falls. Win or lose, they're SEC champs or partial SEC champs. It's above me as to how that tiebreaker works.
     
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  10. Clemson_tennis

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    I don't think so. Cornell is another overranked team. UNc Wilmington got beat by NC State 7-0. Clemson would beat Wilmington and Idaho. We do not have any bas losses but no good wins either
     
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  11. mikej

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    Yeah SEC lists both champs on its website for years with a tie, so it appears the tie-break would only come into play for conf. tourney seeding. I'm sure it would be either H2H or national ranking.

    Anyway, I look forward to seeing how UGA does in only its 4th match this year vs a current top-10 team...1-2 so far with best win being #8 Stanford.
     
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  12. Clemson_tennis

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    I would say UGA has a shot but Tennessee seemed to veer back on track with their destruction of Florida (although UF always gets killed by UT, bad matchup)
     
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  13. mikej

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    I'd bet just about everything I have on Tenn. - it seems like their mid-season slump is very much behind them, and yeah that UF match was damn impressive. If UGA wins (or even takes it to the wire w/ a deciding match) my talk of them being overrated at present will be over.
     
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  14. mikej

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    2-5 vs UMD is a bit ugly
     
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  15. mackimac

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    I don't think so. Cornell is another overranked team. UNc Wilmington got beat by NC State 7-0. Clemson would beat Wilmington and Idaho. We do not have any bas losses but no good wins either

    Clemson's best win is NC State, which is ok but besides that who have they beat. I am guessing UNCW has only lost indoor matches. I gurantee they would beat Clemson. Difazio at 2 is horrible and UNCW #2 player beat Alverez 6-2 6-1 in the only clemson UNCW meeting
     
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  16. jaggy

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    Where do you need to be to get seeding assistance in the NCAA's? Top 16?
     
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  17. Clemson_tennis

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    well the top 16 are seeded. Then the rest go by. (17-32) (33-48) and (49-64). And since the people who make the tournament are such clowns it is likely that the 17 will match up with the 1 and 32 with the 16.
     
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  18. woodrow1029

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    Which is odd considering Stanford has beaten UF this year.
     
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  19. DownTheLine

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    I think 8 is a good number for Stanford for the whole season. If it was ranking from their last 6 matches I would say 5.
     
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  20. mikej

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    lol, they didn't play anyone in the top 12 in their last 6 matches, and only 2 of those 6 were against top 25 teams

    just like indoors (or usc and baylor in the regular season), stanford is going to get tossed in the dumpster again once they play somebody legit in NCAAs

    edit: btw, I'm sure Stanford will look like a great team against their next two opponents as well - #52 Boise, #70 San Francisco - tough scheduling out there in Palo Alto, they should be well prepared for NCAAs
     
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  21. Clemson_tennis

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    This isn't another Stanford thread.

    I wonder if Mississippi State can sneak into the top 16 because nobody wants to see them land in their section in the NCAA's. (Probably Georgia or soemthing because they just love those conference matchups in the tournament which I hate)
     
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  22. socaltennnis

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    The 7 teams that I see above Stanford right now in my opinion deserve to be higher than Stanford. one can argue that some of the teams right below them maybe deserve to be higher even, but thats debatable.
     
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  23. DownTheLine

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    I was just commenting on a team....

    The thing that makes it a Stanford thread is you responding like you did.
     
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  24. IlliniSky

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    I'm strapping myself in to see how far down Dancer can take us.

    Illinois' ranking since March 1st: 4-6-9-10-13-15-17

    Sad.
     
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  25. The Wreck

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    Tough 4-3 loss.

    The doubles was split and came down to Third Dubs, and a VERY controversial call prevented it from going to 7-7, and then ya never know. Of course, they had their chances elsewhere, and it was still a good match.
     
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  26. mikej

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    impressive performance by your guys, they really showed off some depth...maybe they're better than i think

    however, i would disagree a bit with "they had their chances elsewhere"...seems like the only close singles match went to UGA (#3)...only 4 sets closer than 6-3 (and no breakers) in the other five matches, all straight-setters

    looks like if they were going to win it had to be w/ #3 dubs
     
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  27. The Wreck

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    Maybe so. 1 singles were on serve the whole first set pretty much, and a late break cost Wil. And if I'm not mistak Javi at 2 was up a break in the first and wound up losing it. Still. I think they can hang with most every team out there, whether they wind up with the win is another story, but I hope the best for 'em.
     
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  28. tennismom42

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    I am going to take you with me to Las Vegas. Good picking!

    UNC-W beat UVA for the conference championship.

    Do you have any more picks?
     
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    I think you meant VCU, not UVa.
     
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  30. Clemson_tennis

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    He didn't actually pick them to win anything. I still think they would lose to Clemson.

    Also he was off on Idaho.
     
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