Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by pushing_wins, May 15, 2013.
because of fb and twitter
sort of like what ufc did to wrestling and boxing
Old codgers like me think FB and Twitter are stupid. Viva la TTW!
Forums generally only die out if they lose a source of new members. (Old/existing members always move on bit-by-bit as the years go by).
I know some forums which are thriving despite FB/social networking - because there's always been a concerted effort to keep the forum relevant and open to newcomers.
Other forums I know are pretty much dead because they were initially made with a bunch of core members - and due to inaction they haven't been replaced with new blood.
This forum is attached to a tennis review magazine, which is attached to an internet store so its on reasonably solid ground.
FB is on the way down and twitter is a niche product, but the more citizen-oriented blogs are definitely on the wane.
I think twitter could actually enchance the viabilltiy of Forums. Follow someone on Twitter when they post a review or somethng they can link right to it.
IMHO, no. I'm shooting my self in the foot, inevitably, by "immortalizing" my words here, though.
A discussion board/message board/forum like TTW is more for discussing ideas, twitter and facebook is more about consumption, IMO. Twitter is a terrible means of discussing ideas due to length limitations and clunky means of actually responding. It's more about barfing a short status and operates under the assumption that someone actually cares about the result.
While the statuses themselves are "permanent" in the sense that they're archived, the nature of the medium is very temporary.
I've found myself searching TTW (via google or otherwise) for old (but still relevant) content multiple times. Have you done that (regularly) on FB or Twitter?
I highly doubt it. FB and Twitter have been here for a long time already.
Spend some time on the Internet Brands web-site. It's mind boggling how many active forums there are on the web. These guys made a big business out of it.
It's a very different product than FB and Twitter because its anonymous and highly topical.
I use all three (Twitter, FB, forums) and more. They all serve a slightly different function for me, and I assume that's true for most users. I post very little about tennis on Twitter because very few of my followers are tennis fans so if I'm in the mood to talk about tennis this is my outlet. I am closer and closer to ditching FB because of the ads, ecards, etc.
Short answer - probably not.
I bet a fair number of posters here are on FB and twitter and still come here to discuss tennis. While FB and Twitter can be great for sending and getting news, or sharing status, pictures and info on events, I find it lacking in being able to carry on long running conversations with a large group about a specific subject.
FWIW- it's hard to debate the modern forehand or why Fed needs to use a larger racket 140 characters at a time :twisted:
twitter, FB and such is just too complicated and is only a tool for reaching masses with limited content. However, forums such as tt provides the opposite. Most users here have an above average knowledge of tennis and provides alot of content (in most cases anyways).
You know you can link to any post on TW?
I got's no Facebook, or Twitter.....
What tennis review magazine?
See what I meant about old codgers like myself!
who has the patience for details anymore?
topical....fb, google has highly topical tennis groups as well
anonymous..........fb commnets are almost as nice whereas youtube comments are almost always mean. do you care more about what you know (opinions from like-minded people like your friends)? or do you care more about the what you dont know (people who are not your friends, the haters, dissenters)?
Doubt it, not with the stupidity that floods the General Pro Discussion section.
Having a social media account means you have friends?
The amount of posters will never dwindle as long as NSK is still around...
I'm not that crazy about Facebook, and to be quite honest with you have no idea what Twitter is. I like chat rooms/message boards.
Oh that's dirty...
Facebook will pass, as did MySpace, as did Friendster. Eventually, it will become "uncool."
It is only a matter or time.
Bartelby's Weekly Gazette? The Diary of Dire Desire?
Not sure which magazine he was referencing.
Facebook doesn't feature an interface that accommodates discussion of more than a handful of topics at one time. Anymore than 3-4 status updates and everything else gets pushed down.
Twitter is basically a stage for narcissists. It can be handy, but most of it is drivel.
Message boards serve a useful purpose and (hopefully) won't go the way of the dinosaurs.
its uncool now..farcebook more like, its turning into a mess as well with all the forced ads coming in, fake profiles and so on.
I love how it got censored as well
Fb and twitter are huge and at times it gets confusing.You can rarely discuss any issue and you don't get the sense of closeness,where as TTW is more of a family.You meet genuinely nice people on forums whereas Fb and twitter is like virtual world where you can easily get lost.I was a member of rafa nadal forum since 2007,so i am more of a forum fan.
I don't think you could ever match this forum in a Facebook or Twitter environment. It would be impossible to follow with all the other stuff mixed in. The old time Internet users will also remember usenet newsgroups. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
I think facebook has already hit the "uncool" stage when it lost its exclusiveness it became just another myspace (which I've never had)
I'd read both those.
What is FB and Twitter?/
How I use internet:
- fb: only to log on other sites and post comments on blogs and news websites
- twitter: more than 2 hours/day
- tt: it depends if there is a tournament lr even a gs, lots of us here tend to disappear between GS
also, in general, I check for tennis info on internet on tt only and the atp livescore app when I'm afk.
They started doing reviews as a sideline to selling equipment, but I would argue that their reviews are now a publishing operation in their own right.
Hence, the review page and youtube channel, inter alia, is an online magazine.
If they were to put them behind a paywall, perish the thought, I would pay for them.
It's already happening - http://business.time.com/2013/03/08/is-facebook-losing-its-cool-some-teens-think-so/
Teens know their mom is on Facebook so they've been moving over to Instagram.
Don't think FB will disappear as fast as those other sites since so many adults are on it.
TTW was going strong when Facebook was peaking. Facebook is on the decline now (thank god) so that's eliminated a threat :twisted:
I still come on here often, despite not posting as much as I did a few years ago.
Talk Tennis seems to be the most popular tennis discussion forum. It's not going to die out as long as Tennis Warehouse is in business. It's certainly not going to die out because of fb and twitter.
Facebook seems like a good resource for finding people, and platform for marketing something, but not for having discussions. It's not in competition with Talk Tennis or other online forums where the participants in topical discussions can remain anonymous if they want to.
For myself, I don't need or want a facebook page. Anybody who wants to find me can do so via Google or Yahoo.
I don't know much about Twitter, but it doesn't seem that it would be in competition with discussion websites like Talk Tennis, or Physics Forums, etc.
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