Are professional tennis players too pampered?

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  1. objectivity

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    Compare tennis to badminton.

    For example, consider the All England championships. Badminton's premier tournament, somewhat akin to the Wimbledon of tennis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP2ltjz4C04

    Listen to the crowd. No "hush" before service. Full blooded screams at every shot.

    Look at the players. Body shots , even head shots are routine. Have to deal with the most guttural screams and unfriendly crowd.

    Look at the coaches. No complaining about coaches directing instructions to the players.

    In many ways, I think tennis is really wimpy.
     
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  2. Mainad

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    I think you've just described mainly Wimbledon with its almost hushed, church-like atmosphere. It is the cathedral of tennis after all.

    The other 3 Slams are full of raucous, noisy, often downright rude spectators and heated atmospheres. IMO the US Open is the prime example of this with the French Open not very far behind.
     
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  3. objectivity

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    why do i still hear the umpire go "s'il vous plaît" all the time at the FO?

    and what about the body shots? how come i don't hear badminton players (and fans) complain about it?

    and what about the coaching? how come there's no complaints too?
     
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    To calm the noisy spectators down which is exactly my point.

    I can't speak for what goes on in badminton as I know nothing about that sport. But if what you describe about it is true, maybe a little more order and umpirely intervention wouldn't come amiss?
     
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  5. objectivity

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    well that's exactly what i am saying -- why do you have to calm the noisy spectators down? badminton doesn't do that. the players are able to function perfectly still! the crowd is always shouting out "OUT!" and "IN!" during the middle of the rally as well. and considering the smaller venues, the sounds are even more amplified. why aren't the players complaining?
     
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    I don't know anything about badminton, but I love the atmosphere of tennis. It is so tense. Lots of dynamics from silence to chaos.

    Its different and I like it how it is.

    the Davis cup is a little more crazy if you like that style of stuff.
     
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    Although I've never experienced either, I'd imagine a body shot with a 90 mile per hour forehand would hurt and bruise slightly more than a shuttlecock.
     
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  8. BevelDevil

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    People shouting "out" during a tennis match is way worse because a player might mistake it for a line judge call and stop play. Whereas in badminton, when the shuttlecock hits the ground, play stops automatically regardless of whether it was in or out.

    And fans themselves might get confused about what's going on when random people are making line calls, thus distracting from their enjoyment.

    Also, in tennis, almost all the serves are overheads, which I think is inherently harder to execute, thus demanding more concentration.


    Lasly, from the few videos I've seen, these matches seem to be very nationalistic and Davis Cup like. So crowd participation seem to be part of the enjoyment. China's role as a central power probably plays a big role in the culture that surrounds it. So yeah, I think cultural plays a role, but it's not the only thing.
     
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    Agreed, tennis should become a death match.
     
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    I agree with the bolded point. They even have their names and country printed on the back of their shirts (jerseys).
     
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    Nadal and Djokovic play a 6 hour match at the Australian Open and then are forced to stand for half a trophy presentation as their legs give out from under them. Tell me again about tennis players being too pampered?
     
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  12. BigBlueYanks

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    No, tennis players are not pampered.

    Tennis and Badminton are totally different animals and can't be compared.

    In fact, all professional sports have their own exclusive culture and fan base that comes along with it.

    Now, if you would compare two different players in the same sport....yes it does favor/pamper super stars.
     
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  13. RF20Lennon

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    About headshots.....if the ball that Federer hit connected with Stakovsky's face then he would never played tennis in his life again. It's too dangerous. There is nothing legally wrong with it but come on.
     
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  14. objectivity

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    you make good points in general.

    nevertheless, specifically about the serves. yes overhead serves are tougher and require more concentration. but what about players taking free-throws in basketball? surely that requires even more concentration, no? but players are being harrassed endlessly etc.
     
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    First, tennis requires a serve to get a point started. I don't see more double faults somehow enhancing the enjoyability of tennis. Also, returning serve possibly requires more concentration than serving. Partisans distracting both the server and return of server would result in fewer interesting rallies and plays.

    The basketball freethrow is not anywhere as integral to the flow of the game. In fact, missing a free throw does not disrupt the flow of the game.

    Second, basketball is a team sport, which tends to encourage a type of home team mania. With the exception of Davis Cup and the occassional local favorite, tennis doesn't have this kind of partisanship, in part because of the lack of opportunity. A typical professional tennis match features two foreigners playing each other. Consider the great rivalry between a Spaniard and a Swiss. How many of their matches were played in Spain or Switzerland?

    In most pro matches, although people have their favorites, they mainly want to see good tennis and to get a glimpse of the world's best, at their best... not at their worst.
     
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  16. Tenez101

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    Lol badminton
     
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    Different sports, different expectations. I could not imaging a football game of any code being quiet, or swimming, running,etc. But fart at a chess championship and .....
     
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    I don't believe so, no.
     
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    Beyond having to deal with crowd noise, I do think pro tennis players today are totally spoiled from having ball boys carry their nasty sweaty towels, to having ball boys fetch water for them and WORSE have the ball boys hold an umbrella to shade them during change overs. Seriously?!?! The last task, IMHO, is complete BS.
     
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    How so? You're joking?
     
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    .....the dreadful bum breeze might blast across the room and blow over the pieces on the chess board. :neutral:
     
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    Haha the ultimate sport !! The name of the projectile used sums it up.
     
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  23. objectivity

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    clearly you have no understanding of the sport. tennis is great, but so is badminton. the athleticism required to master badminton is at least on par with tennis if not more. and the level of touch required is on another level altogether compared to tennis.
     
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  24. cneblett

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    One of the reasons for being quiet on serves is so the returner can hear the ball come off the racquet. It can help the returner in knowing type of serve.
     
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    Yes badminton birdies are as heavy as tennis balls. OK.
     
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  26. Power Player

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    I agreed with the umbrellas part too until I sat at the sony last month.

    The sun beating down on you is brutal. Honestly just turning my hat backwards made a huge difference while watching. Plus I play here in FL, and any shade is a welcome relief.

    The umbrellas make it so people watching do not have their view obstructed by a more permanent solution.
     
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