Are these the best groundstrokes of the tour?

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  1. melele

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  2. joeri888

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    They sure look nice, but not consistent enough, and too far behind the baseline.
     
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  3. Cup8489

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    I love Almagro's backhand, for sure.
     
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  4. The Bawss

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    He has great groundstrokes, nice serve. A complete game.

    I have a lot of time for him.
     
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  6. AnotherTennisProdigy

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    Beautiful backhand
     
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    almagro is fine, but he can not beat rios agassi or guga baseline game...
     
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  8. 5point5

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    LOL, this guy thinks he knows better than Almagro...
     
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  9. joeri888

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    It IS strange how he's never made an ATP final off clay.
     
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    I think it must be more mental than anything else at this point, this guy has some of the best groundstrokes on tour IMO on both wings and a huge serve as well. I guess he is just a little uncomfortable with the quicker pace of play on hard court and the quicker movements compared to clay.
     
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  11. Gonzo_style

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    Nicolas has a great strokes, but he is sometimes too defensive, especially on fast surfaces...
     
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    It's not strange. He needs a lot of time to set up for his backhand, which only clay affords him. Notice how he's standing 90 feet behind the baseline on hardcourt.
     
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    I'd have to say while these are nice Federer has the best Bh in atp. Of the one handers. Beautiful strike. And his slice is particularly suited for the modern game of top spin. His slice neutralizes and sets up his big fh.
     
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  14. Gonzo_style

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    Did you see QF Shanghai Wawrinka-Federer?
     
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    Ditto, a great stroke
     
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  16. rofl_copter3

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    Gotta agree here, the Fed topspin backhand is probably second tier for a one hander... Haas has my vote for number one but Gasquet Wawrinka and Almagro are all right there...
    The big thing Federer and Haas do though is take the ball on the rise instead of stanking five feet behind the baseline
     
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  17. Gonzo_style

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    Yeah, Wawrinka handle Nadal's FH on clay better than Fed, but of course Federer is better in everything else!
     
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    Wawrinka probably has a more safe? Bh. But fed on is just incredible. I didn't see that match. I'll have to watch now.
     
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    In first and second set Waw won almost all BH to BH changes, i think his BH is better than Fed's, Wilander also said that...
     
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  20. arche3

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    Wow. I would never think that. But I saw a posted video of waw on here hitting some insane bhs.
    Perhaps it's because waw hits a loopier bh than fed.
     
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    never noticed how much wrist action his forehand has.
     
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    Nice forehand, average backhand.

    Many better BH, french, spaniards, swiss, etc.
     
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    Fed hits more of a half volley than a driving shot and Stan also has better hip drive into his backhand. Stan hits a nearly perfect fundamental one hander...
     
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  24. Cup8489

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    someone should post some bh to bh exchanges of Fed-Wawr shanghai match.
     
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  25. akv89

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    I'm a fan of one handed backhands, but Almagro is not among my favorites. He barely uses his legs and relies mostly on his upper body for all that power, resulting in a lack of consistency. I prefer Kohlschreiber's, Wawrinka's, or Gasquet's OHBH to his.
     
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  26. dominikk1985

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    he does have great strokes although the huge swings he takes often requires that he stands a little farther back.

    technically and power wise his shots are as good as anyone on the tour but I guess he doesn't have the footwork and mental strength.

    I already said in another thread that is is of course not as good as the top 4 but compared to his countrymen ferrer he actually has better strokes and weapons.

    and still ferrer is top5 and is a perennial QF to SF guy while almagro is borderline top 10.

    what exept fitness and taking balls early can ferrer do better than almagro?
     
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  27. Backhanded Compliment

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    ^^^this

    Guga could do a lot more off the baseline from either side. Nico is unlucky to be a few inches shorter than he needs to be as well. Overall Nico needs more consistency and variety (creativity?) to hold that title.

    These days Nole is the king but Murray can sometimes best him. It depends on the day.

    Great vid though... lots to learn from that footage.
     
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  28. Backhanded Compliment

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    Ferrer cant beat the heck out of the ball like Nico can but he's got better movement, consistency and yes creativity. Ferrer has better point construction and patience. He also returns very well.
     
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  29. President

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    For a guy who's 6 feet tall at best, Almagro's movement is downright terrible. Ferrer arguably has the best footwork on tour. That's Ferrer's main advantage over Almagro, in my opinion. Almagro does just about everything else better, if he had Ferrer's footwork he would be top 5 easily if not better.
     
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    Almagro with Ferrer's footwork would probably beat Nadal everytime on hc (and some wins on clay)

    Have they even played on hc? lol
     
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    lets not get carried away. he's still a choker. and oh yea nadal isnt a chump on hc
     
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  32. Bobby Jr

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    Almagro has great shots off both wings - amongst the best ever...


    ...until he plays someone who can play tennis and then he gets shown up for the significant shortcomings in his game.

    That's why his tournament record against the top ten looks like it does.
     
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  33. Federer20042006

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    I really think Haas's backhand is the most overrated shot in tennis. He simply does not hit winners with it, and Nadal breaks his backhand down twice as fast as he does Federer's.

    Wawrinka's...yeah, his is devastating when it's on. But I will never understand all the hype surrounding Haas's backhand.
     
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  34. BorisBeckerFan

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    Just goes to show it takes a lot more to win tennis matches against the top guys than having some of the sickest, wicked strokes on the planet. In many ways Almagro has better strokes than some of the people ranked ahead of him but tennis is so much more than having awesome strokes.
     
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