Are you a critical thinker?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Steady Eddy, Mar 20, 2011.

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Are you a critical thinker?

Poll closed Mar 30, 2011.
  1. Yes, I'm immune to propaganda and advertising.

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  2. Maybe. In some ways I am, but not often, it's too much work.

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  3. No.

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  4. I don't know. You tell me!

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  1. jester911

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    It is quite amusing reading your little ramblings. You have obviously been conditioned to think in very narrow terms in relation to a measure of intelligence and analytical thought. If you are in fact in law school you are already coming up short. You have confused a little thread on a tennis forum with a serious argument as if you are in court. Couple that with the fact that you are feeling the need for a 3rd party to arbitrate. Your own arguing skills must not be adequate. That is too funny.
    You try to cover your glaring insecurities with a facade that you are somehow the smartest guy in the room. You also take yourself entirely too serious because you don't even have a clue when someone is just jerking your chain.

    Lighten up dude.
     
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  2. enishi1357

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    I am one who find the how and why to every movement but also explain it in a way even a 3 year old can understand it. No need those physics terms, its tennis cmon
     
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  3. pushing_wins

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    i dont want to argue. u are like my delusional friend. u are a stubborn one

    lets talk facts


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    well, since i wont be getting any straight answers from you. i have to do a little inductive reasoning.

    heavy machinery
    close to 50 but still works a regular shift 7-330



    i m definitely not the smartest, but i m definitely smarter than some people.

    whether i can complete law school or not, only time can tell. but i did score close to perfect on logic games.
     
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  4. dominikk1985

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    A critical thinker won't do well in tennis:D.
     
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  5. jester911

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    The word you were looking for was deductive but you can be inductive if you prefer. I have given plenty of straight answers. You "induct" whatever you like.

    Your true intellilect is definitely coming through so please don't stop impressing.

    As for your facts. Are you sure about those? Do you believe everything you read on the internet?
    Oh that's right. Your a crititical thinker. I forgot.
     
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  6. pushing_wins

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    dude

    u are a father

    why are u stalking me?

    leave me alone.

    i dont intiate response to any post your start.

    i post something. u are right on my ass.
     
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  7. pushing_wins

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    here we go again

    a person who is close to 50 and still works a regular shi*ft 7-330

    what can u induce from that?
     
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    No one is immune to all advertizing and propaganda.
     
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  9. jester911

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    Obviously you are confused about the meaning of the word induce. Try a dictionary.

    As for the facts again you are assuming what you read on a public forum is fact. Your critical thinking is flawed. The only thing you think you know is what you have read here.
    You continue to talk about logic scores and law school as if that will qualify your "superior intellect" yet your words betray you. Please continue though as it is quite amusing.

    Also is it possible to stalk someone by responding on a "public forum" from another part of the world?

    That thinking seems to be flawed as well.
     
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  10. tennis_balla

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    Interesting that pushing_wins talks about stalking yet he demanded to know what city I was from, my playing level, record and so on and went as far as asking people about me in Toronto to get information....or so he claims. Ironic isn't it
     
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  11. LeeD

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    Actually, I'd like you to respond to the thread about "130mph" serves..:)
    In my mind, you're the only here who qualifies to make any meaningful answers, although I like to interject lots of useless noise.
     
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  12. jester911

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    Yes and quite amusing.
     
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  13. pushing_wins

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    ok
    what is inductive reasoning?
     
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  14. pushing_wins

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    do i or do i not respond to every one of your posts?
     
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  15. pushing_wins

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    this is the ultimate pushfest
     
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  16. jester911

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    Please refer to the other thread for the definition of induce since you can't bring yourself to look it up.
     
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  17. pushing_wins

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    ok
    can we limit our discusion to the other thread?

    we are polluting the spirit of this thead.
     
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    Use your vaunted critical thinking pushing_wins.

    edit:... Jester911 do you have a post secondary education? It may have been a barb to you.

    Jester have no doubt though that pushing_wins lacks critical thinking in a number of areas.
     
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  19. sureshs

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    If something is true for N = 1, and it turns out that if it true for N, then it is true for N+1, then it must be true for all natural numbers.

    That is because if it is true for 1, then it is true for 2. If it is true for 2, then it is true for 3. And so on.

    In other words, you don't directly deduce from anything, but just prove the relationship between N and N+1 assuming N is true.

    Or in general terms, you build up a logical case by assuming that some instance is true, and prove that the next instance then must also be true.
     
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  20. jester911

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    All based on assumption of facts that were found on a public forum.
    Shaky at best.
     
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  21. pushing_wins

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    please dont go away
     
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  22. pushing_wins

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    it is correct by definition

    shooking myself in the foot by going OT
     
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  23. pushing_wins

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    most law-makers do not have a regular schedule, jester has a regular 7-330 shift.


    conclusion: jester is not a law maker




    it that reasoning by deduction or indcution?
     
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  24. pushing_wins

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    u need to understand the difference between validity and truth
     
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  25. sureshs

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    It is faulty reasoning by deduction because you said "most" which could exclude jester.
     
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  26. pushing_wins

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    observation: jester has a regular 7-330 shift.


    conclusion: jester is likely not a law maker




    it that reasoning by deduction or indcution?
     
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  27. sureshs

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    That seems to be correct reasoning by deduction
     
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  28. pushing_wins

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    general to specific ------- deduction

    specific to general ---------induction

    am i wrong?
     
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  29. pushing_wins

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    my reasoning is simlar to

    Inductive reasoning is not logically valid. Just because all the people you happen to have met from a town were strange is no guarantee that all the people there are strange. Therefore, this form of reasoning has no part in a mathematical proof.
     
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  30. jester911

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    Yes it is specific to general = induction.
    I concede. I am not a lawmaker.
    What a disappointment.
     
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  31. pushing_wins

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    specific observation: jester works a regular shift 7-330

    my conlusion about his profession: jester work as a law maker


    that is also induction.
     
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  32. pushing_wins

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    induction is not logically valid and may or may not be the truth
     
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  33. jester911

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    The problem with this is there is no actual observation of what my work schedule is. That is unless you actually observed it. Have you been stalking me?

    Oh no. The horror.
     
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  34. pushing_wins

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    lets settle one thing at a time

    if i come to the conlusion that u are an idiot based solely on your post on this forum.

    is that inductive or deductive reasoning?
     
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  35. sureshs

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    That is correct. That is why you need to show that if one person is strange, the next one is also strange. Only then you can conclude that everyone is strange. Of course, next has to be defined and should exist in this context. A sample will not cut it, unless you bring statistics into the picture.

    Induction is used when the formula for something is known empirically, but the proof of that by deduction is not known. Then, essentially you end up proving that the formula is true for all possible cases, and thus covering it.
     
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  36. sureshs

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    See edit above
     
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  37. pushing_wins

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    let me put in this way

    i m saying jester is not a lawmaker based on some sterotype i have.


    is that inductive or dedcutive reasoning in a formal logic context?
     
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  38. sureshs

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    That would fall into the statistical category, not strict reasoning.

    Based on what I have read and the general feeling I get, I might want to avoid some areas after dark. It is a stereotype I have and may or may not be true. My reasoning will not be right or wrong as it cannot be solved logically. However, if I wanted to be more mathematical, I would ask about the crime rate there, and then my decision will be more scientific. Formal logic is not applicable here.
     
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  39. pushing_wins

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    deduction
    all lawamker have flexible schedule
    jester doesnt have a flexieble schedule
    therefore jester is not a law maker.


    induction
    most lawamker have flexible schedule
    jester doesnt have a flexieble schedule
    therefore jester is not a law maker.
     
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  40. jester911

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    Poor little push_pin. Still trying to figure out how to think.
    At least you had some others come in and help you out with that chore. Now write it on the board 100 times and maybe you will have it.
     
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  41. pushing_wins

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    the empirical/scientific method is an inductive process.

    do u agree?
     
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  42. pushing_wins

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    ad hom

    10 char
     
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  43. jester911

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    Go hide behind your little Latin words. Hopefully they will protect you from those meanies out there in that big bad world outside of your little room.
     
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  44. pushing_wins

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    inductive and ad hom
     
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  45. pushing_wins

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    i have charted your posting pattern

    it is very unusual to be posting some much at this time

    are u trying hard to make a point?


    again, by induction
     
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  46. jester911

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    You have clearly made my point for me. Go back to the board now.
    You have 99 more to go. I am sure you will get it by then.
     
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  47. pushing_wins

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    wow

    i cant imagine you as a father or husband

    i pity your family
     
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  48. jester911

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    Thank goodness for that. The world is a better place now.
     
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  49. pushing_wins

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    u are a grown man with children.

    dont u feel stupid arguing with a keyboard commando who wont venture out of his little room?

    u never post at this time. it must be taking time away from your usual routine.
     
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