Artificial grass courts

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  1. tball

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    1. Has anyone played on artificial grass courts ? What are your impressions ?

    2. Does anyone know how much it will cost to build 1 court like that ?

    3. Any other good artificial surfaces out there ? For outside.
     
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  2. Bdarb

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    only guy I knew who put a court in, was a hard court. He said the entire process was absolutely miserable. The cost was exorbitant, it had to be redone, even after the fact it is under used and he ends up playing at local clubs to play with other people anyway. All in all it is far cheaper to just join a nice club you like and play there.

    he said he had 50K + into a hard court after all was said and done too to let you know. This was somewhere in masachussettes. He told me dont ever do it! haha
     
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  3. BLX_Andy

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    Really? What if the court didn't have to be redone? Would his feelings have changed?
     
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  4. Bdarb

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    No because it was redone at no cost to him, and regardless he says he ends up playing at clubs because that's where his friends are. He said they use it once in a while but the only times I've played with him was at my club.. Personally I could see enjoying it for drilling maybe with a ball machine but I like playing at the club because a bunch of people are there playing tennis, it's fun, you can grab drinks whatever. It's just not the same feel at someone's house, and he's got a mean man cave too.

    Personally I don't see the point unless you're adding a surface you can't readily play on near you. There's another guy out in the sticks near me who has an absolutely beautiful single har tru court on his property. Now that is a fun place to play. Beautiful back yard with gardens and horses.. Nice Sunday morning spot. That being said, clay is such a headache to manage, especially by yourself for one court.
     
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  5. forthegame

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    I'm not sure if 'artificial grass courts' are the same as the 'astroturf' or 'all-weather courts' that abound in the UK but I like them. Gentle on the knees and acceptable bounce.
    HTH.
     
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  6. djNEiGht

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    I played on a court that looked it had the same artificial grass as mini-golf. You could slide and it wouldn't tear up the court. The ball seemed to bite more like har-tru.
     
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  7. jaggy

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    Years ago I lived in Scotland and they were the most common surface. I liked them but they got very slippy underfoot if they were dry for long.
     
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  8. Bartelby

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    ... and you can play when wet and even in the rain unlike hardcourts.
     
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  9. Torres

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    No you can't. Artificial grass turns into a ice rink when wet. One reason why they put also put sand down on it.
     
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  10. struggle

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    Omnicourts.

    I used to play on them alot and yes, YOU CAN play them when wet. The sand keeps them from getting too slick.

    Speed varies with wear and amount of sand laid down. If you fall on them they are quite abrasive.
     
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  11. spaceman_spiff

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    Why would you want to play on a wet court? The balls are going to soak up a lot of water, and when they do, that's just going to add to the shock felt in your elbow and shoulder.

    It also messes with your game as you start swinging faster and flatter to get the power you need to hit deep, which just makes it more difficult to keep the ball in the court the next time you play on a dry day.

    Oh, and carpet/astro takes longer to dry after the rain stops.
     
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  12. Baxter

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    I played on one in Sydney Australia. It was fun and different, but not something I'd go out of my way to do again. If would do har tru.
     
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  13. struggle

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    conditions always vary, some people can only play on a wet day. these courts ARE playable, but yes the ball may be abit heavy. buyer beware, and play light balls.
     
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  14. henno

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    I dont like them either. It's very strange playing on such a court.
     
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  15. NJ1

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    No, they're not the same. Artificial grass is like the rubber crumb grass on college football fields etc.

    I've played on artificial grass once in France. I thought it was fine, I forget if it was lined with sand or rubber crumb but I remember it got into my shoes but was no issue.

    Were I building a court, I'd go hard court personally. If you want something softer, Har-Tru but that's more maintenance.
     
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  17. Topspin Shot

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    I've played on fake grass a few times before on a public court, that crazily, is located about two minutes from my house. Once the novelty wears off, it's not much fun at all since the surface has so many divots in it that the ball bounce is a bit ridiculous. A serve can kick seven feet in the air, or it can bounce up only a foot or so, depending on which divot it hits. Serve and volley works pretty well even though the footing is tenuous enough to lead to a lot of missed volleys.
     
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  18. Bdarb

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    I'm sold with that ringing endorsement lol. Sounds like a terrible way to play tennis.
     
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  19. Chotobaka

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    I played on an outdoor artificial grass court right next to the ocean in Chiba Prefecture, Japan. Some courts were in OK condition, but many were really ragged and torn up. There were dozens and dozens of them throughout the same small beachside community -- I was there offseason, so I guess they refurbish them for spring and summer. Seams from sections of the "grass" covering were coming up in spots and it had plenty of uneven spots in the most random places. I do not get the impression that these hold upwell due to widely fluctuating weather conditions -- the heat, cold and rain did these courts no favors. Not fun to play on.
     
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  20. Silent

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    1. I have. It's very easy on the knees. The ball stays low. There were seams on the ones I played on, so not good. The bounce isn't always the same. Overall, I don't mind it but I don't like it. Let me put it this way: if this is the only surface I can play on, then I'll gladly do it, but if I can pick and choose, I'll pick something else.

    2. No idea. You need to put sand on it or something like that if you don't want to get skinned alive when you fall.

    3. No expertise here.

    EDIT: Realized afterwards we're not speaking of the same surfaces. My comments are for astro turf.
     
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  21. djNEiGht

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    I'll be in metro Manila in November. Would be interesting to try...hope I find one
     
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    It's a similar experience on my club's courts. I've hit flat serves that catch the seam on the inside of the service line and kick up head high. But, the same serve hitting the back side of the service line might not even make it up to the knees.

    In the past, it was just the seems on the lines plus one down the middle, but now we've got a few random lumps and small sections that have come up slightly from the base, causing a dead spot. It makes it hard for a guy like me who grew up on hard courts hitting on the rise.
     
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  23. tguru

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    A fair amount of misinformation here. I have a Deco/then Classic Turf cushioned hardcourt here in Ct. I have multiple friends with Omni up in the Litchfield County hills. Omni courts are playable sooner after a rain and you can play in the rain if you choose(with waterlogged balls).

    Pros:1) install cost over an existing court probably about 25 grand. 2)Lower maintenance(labor). 3)Lower maintenance(dollars). 4)Cooler in hot weather.
    Cons:Crappy playing surface. You get a low, dead and often fast bounce. Most people don't prefer the surface and it takes some warm-up to get used to it. The sand level needs to be adequate to give a high enough ball bounce while too much sand can be slippery. Not a particularly satisfying surface to rally on. Counter-intuitive for the older, less accomplished player because of the lower bounce and faster speed of court.
     
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  24. Bartelby

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    When very wet, yes, when wet the only issue is the slowing of the court.



     
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  25. Bartelby

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    If you turn up, play and then it rains lightly then why wouldn't you keep playing? What you say is true enough but it's not a big deal.





     
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  26. lgbalfa

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    they are in magallanes village.

    i will be there in november as well.
     
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