Ashaway 100% Zyex monofilament

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  1. hmd

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    What string factor do people use for this string in RacquetTune?
     
  2. arche3

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    Thanks for the spelling lesson.

    As far as the string. It's all in your head. It's not the gear. It's the player. I'm glad you like the new string. If you actually think you play better you will. But it doesn't mean your not simply fooling yourself and buying into the string makers hype. Gut like feel. New materials. Other players rave about it. Yeah your not buying into the hype. You try every gauge and then various hybrids? No you are not hooked by the propaganda. Not at all.
     
  3. PBODY99

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    No, I think he just tried and appreciated the unique set of characteristics that Zyex brings to a string bed. I know what I get from a Poly ZX set up and I'm happy with it.
     
  4. hmd

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    only way to tell whether it's all hype is to try it out yourself? have you?
     
  5. arche3

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    Yes in a hybrid. I much prefer other strings. I had to try a couple times to find proper tension. But I can play with it no problem. Its not like it will transform my game if I do or don't.
    I'm giving Torres grief because he seems to think he is the only one qualified to make unbiased reviews on strings or rackets.

    So he tries every possible combination of zyex. Raves about it. I am lmao.

    If you gave me any type of string. I can find a hybrid that will work great right off the stringer. Especially if I try every possible gauge of the string and various tensions. So what Torres is doing is finding a way for the zyex to work for him based on his preconceived notions of the string. Gut like. Power. Spin. Exclusive materials. He bought into the hype whole heartily.

    Its all in his head. String is just string.

    Read quote in my signature below. Did that poster drink the coolaid? Or is he just really enthusiastic?
     
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  6. Torres

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    Alot of edits in your post - I see that you've taken out yet another incorrect your/you're reference :)

    You're projecting again. Or showing your insecurity.

    As for ZX, I think its great that Ashaway are prepared to innovate and bring out a string that has more spin than any nylon, more power than any poly and almost as much comfort as gut.

    That's unique.

    Not like phoney Cortex......
     
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  7. PaulMan

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    Fellas, fellas! Do we have to do this??

    Geeze, if you must - take it outside and meet in the back of the school OK?? lol
     
  8. Torres

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    Little arche's always like that.

    When he's not playing with phoney Cortex or outserving Kimiko Date-Krumm, he needs to go back on his naughty step :)
     
  9. arche3

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    I was not editing. I was adding to my list of things your ignorant of.

    Why do you keep bringing up cortex? I thought we decided it was a gimmick and could not prove it does anything positive or negative?

    Kinda like your engagement to a strong..... When is the wedding? Maybe the ashway marketing dept can cater it as you are their favorite customer. Stringing in 3 lb increments until you found it to work? What was the feel again? Awesome pace power and spin? Or was it instant power pace and spin? I cant remember. The gushing of string love was too intense so I blocked it out of my mind.

    I also think it is funny that whenever someone starts debating posts with spelling rebuttals and thinks it actually proves a point. I type fast on my smart phone and don't bother to spell check. Who cares?

    Your totally bamboozled by ashway and don't even know it. Your arguing on ttw about how great it is.

    I say again. Your too gullible to manufacturer claims.
     
  10. arche3

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    Yes. Yes we do, I am trying to help Torres. Its done out of my sincere respect for tennis.
     
  11. PaulMan

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    SMH...10 chars
     
  12. Torres

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    You're not your.
     
  13. arche3

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    Tell that to my nexus tab or s4 phone. As long as you understand what I mean my job is done. I'm trying to help you,
     
  14. Torres

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    Come on now arche, we know that no Android phone does that.

    To type you're to have to actually tap or Swype on the 'e' as the phone doesn't know whether you mean you're as in 'you are' or your as in 'to belong'. Clearly, you're not tapping or Swyping on the 'e'... :)
     
  15. PaulMan

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    Wow, this discussion on the MGZ is exciting! Lol
     
  16. arche3

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    Yeah. I'm just typing y o u r.
    If I type an e it will auto add the punctuation. I don't type the extra e so I have misspelling. I'm lazy. And English is my second language. But wuteva
     
  17. Torres

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    Don't have a pout. Correct grammar is important for jobs, career development etc.
     
  18. arche3

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    Not really. I have an assistant and secretary I dictate to . they type my emails and access my outlook calendar. I rarely type anything or write.

    So you agree now zyex is all hype? No?
     
  19. Torres

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    So if someone sends you an email, you dictate a response for your secretary to type up and send? That's not very efficient.

    What happens when you're out and about and someone sends you an email on your Blueberry?

    Nah.
     
  20. Ronaldo

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    Zyex, PEEK definitely is not hype. Was used by Wilson in the best racquet the company ever released, Ultra FPK. PEEK (Polyetheretherketone) is a thermoplastic
     
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    I don't read emails for the most part. I'm on the phone mostly. I have a berry but I rarely read it. My assistant actually reads all my emails and screens them and she also manages my calendar. My assistant and or secretary will take my dictation and send emails for me when I do need to send a work mass email.
    If it is a email for a close work peer or friend I will type it myself. Misspellings and all. I text friends and family instead of emails as that is not on the corporate systems. And I use a personal phone for that.

    I do not carry my blackberry when I am out of the office. People at work who need me has my personal number. They also know I will rarely answer unless it is from family and on caller Id.

    Any more questions about my work? Its not terribly exciting. I'd much rather play tennis and type horribly on ttw.
     
  22. mikeler

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    Agreed PaulMan.
     
  23. PaulMan

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    lol thanks mikeler. That's the first thing that reminded me - the bickering back and forth was like middle school kids. During my time, when that happened - we took care of business behind the school. haha
     
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  26. hmd

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    This is a unique string and will suit some applications, for me I was looking for something that last longer than the multis (was playing with PPA) but still comfortable, gut probably would be the prefer choice but I wanted something that can be play in all weather condition. After 2 sets of full bed monogut zx I can report it lasted twice as long as PPA and minimal string movement compared to PPA and really comfortable. I think it would also suit ppl looking for string that last longer than their synthetic in a poly/syn hybrid.

    as for "Gut like, spin and power" it's all subjective ;)
     
  27. Sander001

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    So this thread hasn't been updated in a long while. Is everybody off it?

    I briefly tried it in a hybrid with poly crosses and it's pretty good. I liked almost everything about it except it can lose control a bit, I hesitated going for hard swings.

    I hope to try it for a longer period and then can get more in depth.
     
  28. Ramon

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    I'm not off of it. My ZX 16 mains and Gamma Marathon 15L hybrid is the only good non-poly setup I found that lasts a decent amount of time on my Tour 98 ESP.
     
  29. Ronaldo

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    Ever try any Isospeed strings?
     
  30. Ramon

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    No. Is there one I should try?
     
  31. Ronaldo

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    Not sure in a string-eater, no 15 gauge rope.
     
  32. Dimcorner

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    I have it as a cross with Kevlar and it has been hitting the same since the day I strung it up 3 months ago.
    Good spin and meh power. Not overly harsh either.
     
  33. mrc

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    I have been using it some and still like it. Mostly as cross with Poly hybrid. It's only downside is feel. Been hitting more with gut mains/poly cross.
     
  34. corners

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    Have you tried it with 4G mains? Just asking because 4G appears to be the tension maintenance leader among the copolys and might be able to hang for nearly as long as kevlar while providing a bit more pop.
     
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    I just bought a reel of 17g red monogut..I read this whole thread with interest. Pre-stretch, full bed, mains or crosses, tension?? i'm confused but anxious to try it soon..Will report back... Please keep your updates coming.
     
  36. Ramon

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    IMO this string should either be pre-stretched or pulled till it won't stretch on a constant pull machine. Otherwise tension loss will be substantial. If you find that it breaks prematurely, get the 16g natural. The red version is more brittle, and I've seen it break while stringing and during the first set.
     
  37. neverstopplaying

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    Thanks Ramon, for getting me on board with this setup. It is wonderful in a Steam 99s. I just wish I had seen the 'natural' comment before buying a reel of Red. I've successfully strung 3 racquets so far, but two string jobs snapped while stringing.

    My first one popped at 66 lbs, the tension you use. Then I went to 62, which I'm happy with. I would like to go higher but my percentage of successful string jobs is not so good.
     
  38. Attila_the_gorilla

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    The natural also can snap during stringing, has happened a couple of times for my stringers.
     
  39. Ramon

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    I wouldn't be surprised if I broke the natural while stringing, but so far I have no incidences. I'm probably at about 50% with red now that I broke the last 3. It's important not to set your clamps too tightly and avoid re-clamping if at all possible. You definitely have to treat this string with kid gloves while stringing, but if you get it right it's nearly as durable as poly without the stiffness.
     
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    Without pre stretching , I have had many incidences of Zyex natural snapping when stringing as mains at higher tension with some drop weight machine ( friend's older Klippermate- nearly always, my own Pros Pro drop weight - sometimes ). Once pre stretched, it is more robust and the incidence of snapping is greatly reduced.

    But I don't like the feel of Zyex as main or full bed. It is great as cross for me and i have yet to snapped one during stringing for cross at lower tension with my drop weight machine so I'm happy to give up the manual pre stretching around poles before stringing.
     
  41. corners

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    Thanks for your report. Yours is the second report I've read that pre-stretching ZX makes it more robust and less prone to snapping.
     
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    Hey Jasper, I see you've changed your racket, you used to have a Wilson Pro Staff 95 I think? Why did you switch? Also see you've ditched the NRG2 and gone back to a poly hybrid. How is the new equipment working for u?
     
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    Hi Attila,
    Just restless and wanting to try new things mainly. Prokennex Q5 has been my go to racquets for a while. More forgiving, more spins and I can use softer poly /Zyex without hurting my elbow. AI 98 plays similar with a bit more power. I'm comfortable playing competition matches with both.
     
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    I like ZX OK in a full bed, but it isn't my preference. I think its greatest upside is as a cross string in hybrid, as you imply. As a cross, you get the benefit of some of its stronger qualities, like comfort and power, while negating some of that 'metallic' feel that I don't like so much. And, as comfortable crosses go, ZX, IMO, maintains the best snap back and spin potential.

    I have only tried it in combo with kevlar and I love it, but I am confident it would work just as well with poly.
     
  45. Ramon

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    Sounds like another reason the manufacturer should pre-stretch it. I know I can always do it myself, but it's not a lot of fun.
     
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    I find it also works best as a cross string as it's smooth, like poly - but less stiff and lasts longer.

    I string it up on a dropweight and just wait until the weight completely stops moving. Sometimes it takes 10 lifts of the weight... but eventually it will no longer drop.

    If you're on a constant pull machine, wait a good while before clamping.
     
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    I have a drop weight machine and that's exactly what I do. I still have problems with the red version breaking. Another annoyance that pre-stretching would address is the elongation, which is extreme.
     
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    The string is like taffy :twisted:
     
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    I put ZX on crosses at 55# after pre-stretching with nat gut mains. Initial impression is very good. Soft, spinny, powerful and easy to string compared to poly.
     
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    18x20 pattern with Monogut X's

    THis is really impressive stuff if you want spin, control, and power. I am very impressed with the performance as a cross string. I can really stay on the gas with racquet speed and get more spin than gut mains/poly x's. Sure, its not the best for feel and drop shots. However, I should hit less drop shots anyway.
     

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