ATP 5-set Records (five set)

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  1. Bud

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    Monfils-Ferrero going 5 :)

    4 hours 03 minutes

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    Monfils could tie Nadal at 83.33% if he wins this set
     
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    the Nadaltards grab every stat in which Nadal is better than Federer, what else?
     
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    LOL. Some of you guys are obsessed with what we think about Federer.
     
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    This thread (which is nearly 1.5 years old) has nothing to do with Nadal vs Federer so go troll elsewhere ;)
     
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    Ferrero d. Monfils in 5

    OP and Monfils updated ;)

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    Mustard.. Ferrero and Mahut both need updating
     
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    Done :)10 characters
     
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    I have to update Dolgo.. he's at 80% :shock:
     
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    500 posts in a 5-set records thread. Yeah!
     
  9. Bud

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    Young vs Wawrinka going to 5 :)

    Going with Wawrinka at 65% 5-set win rate + experience

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    Melzer also in 5th set TB
     
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    Melzer updated

    Murray needs updating

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    Murray and Djokovic are now tied in their career 5-setters at 12-5 :)
     
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    Murray updated.
     
  12. Tony48

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    Nice thread. Great work.

    I have no idea if I've posted in here already, lol
     
  13. Bud

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    Thanks. We started it before the ATP site added 5-set records to their stats.

    However, it would be great if the ATP site also added the individual matchups with their stats.

    I'll keep this thread going until it happens.
     
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    Tsonga d. Fish in 5!
     
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    Done. Fish and Haase's stats need updating on the OP.

    Mardy Fish's 5-set record is 7-9 (a 43.75 winning percentage)
    Robin Haase's 5-set record is 2-5 (a 28.57 winning percentage)
     
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    Got em .. :)
     
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    Hrbaty moved to Inactive

    The guy with the winning record over both Federer and Nadal...

    Retired in 2010 :)
     
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    Yes, that's Dominik Hrbaty.
     
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    (I hope Nadal gets to play a 5-setter in this US Open. He rarely is stretched to 5 in slams. It is always epic when he does)
     
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    Agreed... 10 years on tour playing only 18 5-setters and losing just 3 is an incredible record.

    That's an average of 1.8 5-set matches per year and a loss of one 5-set match every 3 years and 4 months.
     
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    (Mindogglingly incredible)
     
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    Roddick-Ferrer most likely going 5 sets :)

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    Nope Roddick in 4 after going down an early break!
     
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    +1. He'd rather click 100 times than once. lol. genious.
     
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    Bump for Federer-Djokovic SF USO 11!

    Looks like it's going 5
     
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    thats good for nadal
     
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    Djokovic d. Federer

    Djokovic who has the superior 5-set record, takes it in 5 after saving 2 MP's (again)
     
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    I've updated Federer's record.
     
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    Youzhny is now 16-9 (a 64 winning percentage), after beating Bellucci 14-12 in the fifth set, so Bellucci needs updating.

    Hewitt and Wawrinka will finish tomorrow.
     
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    Thanks Mustard :)

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    Wawrinka d. Hewitt - both need updating
     
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    I've updated Hewitt. You've got Wawrinka's score the wrong way round, Bud, as if he lost the match.
     
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    Is he not 15-9? :confused:

    The ATP site states 16-10

    ** oh, you mean the set scores **
     
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    I mean the match score of Wawrinka vs. Hewitt on Wawrinka's list of 5-setters :)
     
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    The ATP site has Wawrinka 2-1 in 5-set matches this year.. and (26) 5-set matches total :confused:

    I only have him playing two 5-set matches in 2011 and 24 total

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    He beat Tsonga in 5 at he FO this year (I missed that one).. But where is the missing match?
     
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    You've missed the very first 5-set match of Wawrinka's career from March 2005:

    2005 Davis Cup 1R: Sjeng Schalken def. Stanislas Wawrinka (1-6, 6-2, 6-4, 2-6, 9-7)

    Or using your use of the score (6-1, 2-6, 4-6, 6-2, 7-9)
     
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    Thanks .. ;)
     
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    You know, I was looking at Berdych's record and saw that he won his first 9, 5set matches. Wow
     
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    Mustard

    Ferrer and Delpo need updating :)
     
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    I have often thought that this is an important stat and am surprised that it isn't highlighted as much as it used to be. Heads to heads may be more important, but those being roughly equal, I will take the ironman when it goes into the fifth.

    Of course, some of the most entertaining five setters in tennis history were Aaron's.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Updated :)

    Here are all of Krickstein's matches that went into a fifth set:

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=4816199&postcount=74
     
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    surprising to see haas has actually played the 3rd most 5 setters out of all the active players with 37 total
     
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    Thanks M! BTW, great to see Nadal win another DC title with Spain!

    I have mixed feelings about career 5-set matches. For those with high numbers of 5th set matches, it seem to hint that they can't get long matches done in 3 or 4 sets. On the other hand, it shows they are a fighter if they were down 0-2 and come back to win :|

    Be interesting to hear Mustard's take on large numbers of career 5-set matches (Hewitt for example).
     
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    Fantastic. It's also the first time that Nadal won the rubber that clinched it :)

    You sum it up pretty well. Guys like Hewitt and Safin have a tendency to have a lot of dramatic matches that go into fifth sets. Hewitt is well known as a fighter, who would get more tenacious even if his playing level dropped off a bit for parts of the match. Safin's reputation is a bit more mixed. Nevertheless, Safin seemed to thrive in fifth sets because if he got that far, then he's in the mood to win.
     
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    This is a good reference. Good job Bud/Mustard. Thanks.
     
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    Now that Hewitt's nearing the end he's been losing a number of heartbreaking 5 setters. His tenacity is still there but he's broken down... it's sad.
     
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    He's getting a bit long in the tooth for tennis :)
     
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    ^^I know but it's still sad to see not only with Hewitt but a lot of that gen will be gone soon. I just think that once the Olympics come and go 2012 will be a big retirement year.
     
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    Good point. There's going to be a big shakeup in the next year or two as a lot of the guys that are a little long in the tooth will call it a day once they have a last moment of glory walking into the Olympic arena with their country's team and it will be interesting to see which younger players step up to fill the void.
     
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    The press reported Nastase losing the third set 0-6.

    This Associated Press report has Borg winning the third set in a bagel and taking 11 games in a row: http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAIBAJ&pg=5565,3128170&dq=borg+nastase&hl=en

    Also see http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAIBAJ&pg=5699,2922720&dq=borg+nastase&hl=en

    I've contacted the ITF about it (they have the third set as 4-6, same as the ATP does).

    Edit: here's a post for historical comparison (Von Cramm's five-set record): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=6213294#post6213294
     
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    Hmmm. So is it 0-6? One would have to think contempary press releases are pretty reliable.
     
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    It's also listed as 0-6 in this compilation of Borg's exos (funny how the ATP and ITF now count it as an official match, not an exo): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=234431

    The source for that match is not listed directly but he says he compiled the list mostly from Swedish newspapers.
     

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