ATP Board Approves Change In Time Violation Penalty

Crisstti

Legend
Crisstti, I don't mean to offend but I don't know if the elevator does not go to the top floor with you or whatever, but do you honestly think that the ATP would consider any changes re the time violation if they had not received complaints from the people who matter, namely the spectators who buy tickets, the tv viewers and the tv execs/sponsors? Think about it. You think the ATP is doing this for the ****s on some meaningless tennis forums? Just get over it. Nadal will have to get used to it, that is if he ever comes back from his little excursion, it is not big deal, he is a tennis pro, no?

Well tennis is a business and a big business so yes of course money matters.

Well, good to know.

Other than TV executives and sponsors, no, I don't think they'd care. It would have to be overwhelming.
 
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nikdom

Guest
If the umpire thinks that the player is deliberately slowing things down, he should have a quiet word. But the fact of the matter is that Nadal goes at that pace of 25-35 seconds. That is his normal pace. Not everyone does it at 10-20 seconds like Mr. Federer.

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Didn't know you are a comic. Anywho, Mr.Nadal can do whatever he pleases as long as he does not exceed the time limit. Not asking him to go at 5 secs, but he cannot exceed 25.

BTW, you did not answer my question.
 
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Crisstti

Legend
The Slams and the ITF have the same money and tv pressures and they show no sign of moving as yet.

Maybe they have more sense. Maybe they're going to see how it works out on the ATP.

(They also would have the same amount of this alleged "public pressure").
 
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Didn't know you are a comic. Anywho, Mr.Nadal can do whatever he pleases as long as he does not exceed the time limit. Not asking him to go at 5 secs, but he cannot exceed 25.

BTW, you did not answer my question.

Seriously, that's fine and dandy if there weren't any rules about it. He can sit down for a minute before he serves and no one can say **** about it. But here's the tricky thing, there is such a rule, and no one is above the rules.
 

Relinquis

Hall of Fame
Shot clock? why not forget the racquets and net, use two hoops at either side instead, one massive ball and play with our hands like in Basketball! We don't need an electronic solution, just an agreed upon rule that the umpire can enforce.

On a serious note though, i think umpires should enforce the 25 second rule more strictly. It gets boring and spoils the rhythm when players take excessive time, a full rest, massage and bath between every serve/return. Also, stamina and managing one's effort/focus during the point and match is part of being a good athlete. This isn't darts, snooker or baseball.

You should have an upper limit on how long a player can take to catch their breath and set up for a serve/return. 20, 25 or 30 seconds, just choose one and stick with it.

Do players have a say in setting the rules?
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Yes, but their 20 second rule, never policed, looks decidedly anachronistic.

I think the new ATP rule is excellent although I woudn't mind it being 30 seconds.




Maybe they have more sense. Maybe they're going to see how it works out on the ATP.

(They also would have the same amount of this alleged "public pressure").
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Well, good to know.

Other than TV executives and sponsors, no, I don't think they'd care. It would have to be overwhelming.

No, I really did not mean to be offensive but I was just trying to get across the point that obviously the ATP has been receiving pressure from somewhere in order for them to consider changing the rule. They are not doing it because they have nothing better to do right?
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
And you know that how?. Oh yeah, you don't. The spectators/viewers actually bothered by this are ****s who would like Fed gifted matches because of point penalties... pretty pathetic really.



Now, this is the more likely reason. Money.



I doubt that kind of articles constitute the pressure that was mentioned. They're both actually very mild.

Clarky21 mentioned a lack of any examples beyond this board of time issues. I disproved that.
 

Virginia

Hall of Fame
Oh, and Nadal wasn't ready so Rosol shouldn't have served. He rightfully had to repeat the point.
I just watched it again today and Nadal was bent over in the ready position. Perhaps he hadn't yet wiped his nose twice and his ears three times, I don't know.

I was impressed however by the fact that Rosol didn't show any annoyance about having to replay the point. A lot of players would have made a fuss about it.

Rosol is respectful of the umpire and that's commendable. He was also so much "in the zone" that he literally was in another world at the time.
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Rosol is respectful of the umpire and that's commendable. He was also so much "in the zone" that he literally was in another world at the time.

How can anyone be literally in another world? Does Rosol have some sort of space travel that the rest of us don't know about ;)
 
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