ATP vetoes prize money increase at IW

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  1. Bartelby

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    For all those harbouring the delusion that the ATP is a players' union comes the news that the three tournament director representatives on the ATP board of six have vetoed prize money increases of 29% at Indian Wells so they won't have any competitive pressure on them to increase their prize money.

    See tennis.com for details.
     
  2. DropShotArtist

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    Isn't IW the tournament run by Larry Ellison, the guy who is always sitting beside the mega hot chick with the brunette hair and sunglasses? Why should the players get all the extra money? It should go to her for nails and dresses.
     
  3. Bartelby

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    Good point, but the increase is chump change and considered almost a charitable donation when billionaires parlay with the hoi polloi.
     
  4. Moose Malloy

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    http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013...e-money-proposal-well-drop-2011-levels/46336/
     
  5. Vrad

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    Isn't this old news? Or is it that its happened again?
     
  6. vernonbc

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    Really drives home the need for a players association of some sort that will look after the best interests of the players, doesn't it? Here's hoping that the new president/CEO will be someone from the player's side, not management's. May not happen with Roger as the head of the Players Council.
     
  7. Bartelby

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    The tournament is now proposing to reduce prize monies if the increase is not approved, so the struggle continues.
     
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    I seem to recall hearing not too long ago that Larry had ceded all control over running the tournament to his long time business partner, Charlie Pasarell.
     
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    The ATP ceased to be a proper trade union for the players back in 1990 when it took over the business running of the main tour, thus having a conflict of interests.
     
  10. NadalDramaQueen

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    I heard that Federer was individually responsible for this. Have at him, circling sharks!
     
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    The story says that Roger objected to the ATP tournament reps' stance against raising prize money; in fact, he continues to fight for higher shares of the prize money for lower-ranked players.

    He also fought off idiotic ideas (from another top player) of a two-year ranking system and reduced calendar, both of which would have hurt the lower-ranked players.
     
  12. Tshooter

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    "he [Federer] continues to fight for higher shares of the prize money for lower-ranked players."

    Kind of like I'm "fighting" in Afghanstan. I do support the troops.

    This is what Federer does if he wants to change the share of prize money for lower-ranked players and the tournament declines. He informs them he declines to play. Federer probably has more clout than anyone in the game.

    Federer doesn't appear to do anything that could potentially harm Brand Federer. Anything controversial could harm Brand Federer. I think this was essentially Rafa's beef (and more recently Jerzy J) when he said, in essence, if Fed is going to leave us hanging when we try to use public pressure (I believe in that case getting an overall increase in prize money out of the Majors) than he's [rafa] not doing it anymore.

    PS, I love Federer. So spare me the attacks. I'm simply expressing an opinion that Fed is first and foremost a diplomat. If he wanted to force the prize money split he has the clout to probably make it happen. Especially if the other three were on the same page.
     
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    With half its executive board made up of tournament directors, one could hardly call the ATP a players' union. One doesn't find half of the UAW board made up of auto company executives. No, it seems less a union than an organization created to run the men's tour, which means a collaboration with tournament management.
     
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    That's not what I was referring to. The story also mentions ATP President Brad Drewett abstained from the vote thus leaving it tied three all and therefore neither accepted nor rejected. It's not surprising since Drewett came from the management side of the ATP. Other players wanted a CEO who would be more sympathetic to the player's concerns, someone like Richard Krajicek, but Roger disagreed and pushed for Drewett. Well, now we're seeing the results of Roger exerting his influence and it wasn't a positive result for the players.
     
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    I'm pretty sure tournaments would make more money overall if they didn't have a woman's draw.
     
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    ATP voting to increase prize money at IW

    ATP looks like voting in favour of more prize money: Brad Drewett to vote for the proposal to break the deadlock: source Neil Harman: The Times Saturday Feb. 9, 2013.

    According to Harman, Federer wrote to Drewett asking him to break the 3-3 tie.

    I disagree that Federer is acting against the interests of his fellow players.
    He will benefit from the increased prize money but so will the rank & file.
     
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  17. Bartelby

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    Abstaining initially is a good way to expose the self-interestedness of the parties while not imposing one's will unilaterally. Let them hang themselves in public and then come along and retrieve the situation.

    This could have been the strategy.
     
  18. Paullaconte1

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    I think I know who is the player that had the idiotic idea of two-year ranking system... I think that player would be at least world no.4 by now with that idea (maybe also world no.3)...
     
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    He will be #4 soon without that idea...
     

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