Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by crazylevity, Jan 15, 2009.
Hewitt's got a tough draw...sucks.
I heard Federer has a tough section.
At least Murray is on Nadal's side.
Your 2 sentences somehow sound like an oxymoron.
Fed seems to have an easy draw. Murray is in Nadal's half, as well as Tsonga. Federer might have to face Nalbandian, Del Potro and Djoko.
Fed easy draw? Marat is an easy player to win? what the hell is going on here.
Federer really have a damn easy draw, guess he's always favoured by the organizer, look at who nadal have to face in his own half, Murray, Tsonga, Simon, and all the most promising youngsters, Kei nishikori, Ernest gulbis.
Hope that Marat Safin can cause an major upset here like how he upset Djoker in last year Wimbledon. Go, Safin !!!
Safin, Wawrinka, Del Potro, Cilic, Djokovic are easy? HaHa. I can sese the Nadal fans knowing Federer will win this tournament, hence making up BS like "easy draw for him".
The real question is if Gulbis's draw is easy?
Djoker, del potro and Warwrinka are no match for Murray, Tsonga and Simon, I am sure Fed is having a party to celebrate the easy fraw for him in AO, esp avoiding the RED HOT Murray in his own half.
Because Djokovic and Nalbandian are so much better -_-
Got to say it. That's what happens when you drop to 74 in the rankings. Hewitt is a fighter, and it really doesn't matter who he's got in front of him these days, it's going to be a battle. Best of luck to him.
It's probably already been said, but Federer has to be happy that Murray is on the other side.
Umm Marry is ranked 4th. What can Federer do about that? If Murray was to be on Federer's draw then Djokovic would have been on Nadal's. Then you same people would have complained Federer having an easy draw because the defending champ is not in his draw. C'mon total nonsense!
Federer has a pretty tricky start playing Seppi,Moya,Safin.It could have been a lot easier but on the other hand it`s hard to expect a lot from these guys.
At least it`s a good draw to get warmed up with.
From the Aussies perspective it was obvious it would be a tough draw for Hewitt.The good news for him is that he is not playing against the top 4 but on the other hand Gonzalez is a tough match.Not beeing seeded really sux,because u can play against a qualifier but also against number 1.
Murray has a tricky draw as wellavel in first round is not necessary a walkover,then Granollers,Nishikori/Melzer and then Stepanek/Verdasco.
Nadal`s draw in first 2 rounds is pretty straightforward and in third round he could have a tricky one with Haas.
Roddick might play Djokovic in the fourth round
Nonsense, who's spitting nonsense now??? Every1 knows Murray is the real deal at the moment, while the Defending champ is still adjusting to his new Head racquet.
So you're saying Murray should be 3 and Djokovic 4? And if that was the case...would you still say Federer has an easy draw?
By the way, Murray is the most overrated player on the tour. He has taken that tag from Roddick. Seems like US and UK media work the same. Murray is just another Henman, I'm pretty confident he won't ever win a Slam even.
Let's see what you're gonna say when Murray gun federer down and get a slam. I've dug a hole for you to hide in here though.
LoL we'll see...I like saying bold stuff to spice life up a bit . Can't wait for the action to start!
If someone talks about a rigged draw just look at this:
Brydan Klein AUS 248
Carsten Ball AUS 203
Colin Ebelthite AUS 253
Naah, Nadal's never had trouble with Haas. Nadal doesn't have anyone to worry about until the quarters either.
I'll admit it, I think Nadal has a tougher draw, but Federer's is not easy. Nalbandian and Djokovic may give him trouble. And if Safin is on, he could be deadly.
Federer has the most interesting draw playing good players from the start while Nadal has a few easy matches early on and then it starts getting tougher.
poor santoro. to get to the fourth round he has to go through ferrero, kohlscheiber, and roddick. was hoping the old man could make a good run one more time. ah well.
I'll be the voice of reason. Nadal shouldn't have any real problems 'til the 4th rd, where he'll meet Gasquet or Gonzalez/Hewitt but with Lleyton's hip, and Gonzalez being Gonzalez, Nadal should be in the SF, as the only one left is Simon. Watchout for possible 3rd rd match between Nadal/Haas.
Would like to Karlovic vs Ancic in 2nd rd.
TOP QUARTER SF Nadal
Murray should cruise into the 4th rd without problems, Verdasco may give some resistance but if And'ys for real we should see him in the QF. There he should meet Tsonga. The highest ranke player to stop a Tsonga.Murray showdown is #9 Blake, but with his slam track record I don't see him spoiling the party.
2ND QUARTER SF Winner of Murray/Tsonga QF
Top half (of this quarter) looks interesting with Roddick, Ferrero and Nalbandian. Would like to a see a Roddick/Ferrero 3rd rd match. The winner of this could see Nalbandian in the 4th.... if Da-veed decides to show up. Djokovic should also get to the QF without incident, which he will need as his stamina is something I question and will need all the enrgy he has for another SF showdown with you know whom. Would like to see Djokovic/Dent in 3rd rd.
3RD QUARTER SF Djokovic
Federer should breeze into the 4th rd where he will likely see countryman Wawrinka. But a meeting with Safin in the 3rd rd could be interesting. I'll take Roger in 4 sets, cuzz I know one thing... Roger will show up. With Safin I'm not always sure. Del Potro/Cilic is what I want (and expect) to see in the 4th rd, and the winner will like see Federer in the QF.
BOTTOM QUARTER SF Federer
I had Djokovic and Federer co favourites going in. So would love to see a rematch in the SF between them.
There is not such a thing as an easy draw. Everyone is judged by his results! at the end of the tournament we'll finally see who had the easiest draw......
A quick reminder:
A tough draw is the draw Rafael Nadal gets. An easy draw is the draw Roger Federer gets.
Man....this is really tough for two of my favorite players. I can't believe Hewitt and Gonzo playing each other in the first round. I don't know who to root for. I love both of them. Hopefully, goes to the distance and one wins by 101-99 in the fifth.
Nadal has an interesting draw but in the first week he doesn`t have that many difficult matches.I doubt he would have wanted Federer`s first three potential matches against:Seppi,Moya and Safin.I`m not saying Nadal would loose to any of those three but playing long matches early on is not the best way to prepare for a difficult second week.
Federer`s advantage is that he played Seppi and Moya this year and has a feel how this guys are playing but with Safin u never know what to expect.After that the draw gets better for him.
Wishful thinking.I doubt Hewitt would last a long 5 setter.Hewitt`s best chance is to play as fast as possible and win it in 3 or 4 sets.But obviously Gonzo is the favourite of the match and wouldn`t surprise me if he straight sets Hewitt.
Even more reason for your man to hang his head after being beaten by Murray four times in a row.
I'd go as far to say that Federer is probably the most overrated player of all time.
a Murray - Tsonga match is a great expectation
Things like this are so useless. After Wimbledon there is only one grand slam left and guess who won it? Murray can have his percentage.
Guess who was in the final with him, had just beaten Nadal in a 2 day slog and didn't have any rest day, unlike Federer.
He's been the best player on tour since Wimbledon. He's beaten Nadal twice, Federer four times and Djokovic twice. What is the problem with giving the guy a little credit here.
Yeah we saw that in the US Open. Fail.
Ok Murray has proven on hard courts he is a great threat ...not on grass and clay ...
That's very true. There are so few grass tournaments compared to hard court that it is more important to be good on hard. I do think he can win on grass, though. His game will have to be adapted to it, but he needs to win where he is strongest before worrying about that.
You are on crack.
Yeah, I guess he's been favored by the organizer about 13 times until now. Man...these organizers are evil dudes, they've helped such a useless player win so many slams...it's crazy, NO??
You're on crack.
You were going pretty well there for a while, but now you proved like the 2 quoted above to be ...on crack.
This is very probable. I wouldn't bet on it for this AO though, but it may happen by US Open time, and if not ... certainly next year. Too bad you are oh so biased as seen in your first post.
I actually think Federer's draw is very tough, tougher than Nadal's (at least in the earlier rounds). The only "good thing" in Fedster's draw is that Murray is on the other side.
Your post is a good one, but I have a few comments.
I think Murray is a lock for the semis. Tsonga and Stepanek are "dangerous floaters" but I don't see them beating Murray in current form. He is on a mission and he's my pick for the semi.
I think Nadal is actually less probable to get to the semi's than Murray.
I see 3 dangerous Frenchies in his quarter, Monfils, Simon and Gasquet. Haas is not a factor IMO, in fact Eduardo S. might kick his arse in the first round.
If Hewitt is healthy and on top of his game, he might also be a "problem causer".
I'll take Monfils or Simon from this quarter to upset Nadal.
Djoko's/Roddick's quarter will be the most exciting and in this quarter the possibilities for surprises are endless IMO.
Starting with Rod...Kohlschreiber might have actually been dangerous in the 3rd round but he has an injured shoulder as far as I know. As it stands JC Ferrero is probably a safer bet. I still think ARod is a lock for the 4th round where he will probably meet Nalbandian (there's nobody that can beat him in his draw until the 4th round if he plays even remotely close to his potential). I think this 4th round will be an EXTREMELY exciting one to watch...as I liked the way Roddick served/moved in Doha.
Djoko should be a safe bet for the quarters where he will meet Nalbandian or Roddick (unless Chardy has an inspired day in the second round, and Djoko loses his balls somewhere along the line).
Bolelli, Soderling, PH Mathieu/Nieminen are dangerous floaters who can cause some issues for the others...and I'm sorry to say but Dent will get his arse kicked in the 2nd round at the latest.
I'd say either Nalby or Roddick get to the semis from here.
Last (Federer's quarter)...hmmm interesting one also. Interesting possible 3rd rounds Del Potro-Lopez with the winner to play Cilic/Tipsarevic maybe?? (not sure in what shape Ferrer is).
Federer - Wawrinka seems also a lock unless Safin and/or Berdych have some of those "no errors" days...in which case they can blow pretty much anybody off the court.
I'll take Federer from this quarter though ...
Yeh, I think that Nadal's fans in general and on this forum are the younger demographic ... and it shows. That still doesn't excuse some of the fanatic, idiotic Fester fans who don't see anybody else as an exciting player/prospect (Murray/Djoko for example).
Sad really ...
I'd love to see a Federer-Murray final and for Federer to destroy him like he did at the US Open. Not because Federer's my favourite player but because I dislike Murray strongly. I cannot stand his attitude, it's horrible. The look on his face would be priceless
(answer to od1n)You're the one on crack if you think that (on paper) the top part of the draw is not stronger than the bottom part. The bottom part has Roddick, Nalbandian, Djoko, Del Potro, Cilic and Safin, add Soderling if you want (although personally I don't see anything "floatingly" dangerous about him). That's 6 or 7 players. Now let's see what's happening in the top part of the draw. We have Gasquet, Hewitt, Gonzalez, Monfils, Youzhny, Karlovic, Simon, Gulbis, Andreev, Tsonga, Blake and Murray, yes you're right clownish draw at best, easy peasy, Federer gets to do ALL the work. Who's idiotic now?
I'm waiting for a slam draw to come out where people don't scream bad draw for Nadal. I don't think that's ever happend as long as I've been on these boards.
and with delusional loud mouthed Nadal fanatics like veroniquem around it probably never will.
NADAL, Rafael ESP 
SERRA, Florent FRA
KARANUSIC, Roko CRO
SCHWANK, Eduardo ARG
JUNQUEIRA, Diego ARG
SPADEA, Vincent USA
ISTOMIN, Denis UZB (W)
KOUBEK, Stefan AUT
GOLUBEV, Andrey KAZ
FOGNINI, Fabio ITA
MASSU, Nicolas CHI
GIMENO-TRAVER, Daniel ESP
GUCCIONE, Chris AUS
DEVILDER, Nicolas FRA
ANDUJAR, Pablo ESP
wouldnt you be afraid if you had Nadal's knees and had to face such fierce contenders? :twisted:
I'm still waiting for a slam draw to come out where people don't scream the draw is tougher for Fed. Haven't you read Od1n's post "I actually think Federer's draw is very tough, tougher than Nadal", yeah sure, bring the fools in right?
The bottom line is the top part of the draw is more competitive (on paper of course). That's valid for all players there, not just Nadal.
I suppose Fed fans are not loud mouthed? Lol.
LOL, I'm sure the instances of people saying Nadal's draw is tough vastly outnumber the times I've seen Federer's draw is tough. Besides, Nadal is the #1 player in the world isn't he? So he should have no problem navigating through any draw, right?
And I doubt there's any reason to be optimistic that it will happen any time soon. They believe the draws are rigged - how can you reason with that?
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