Australian Open R4 Roger Federer(2) - Milos Raonic(13)

Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by Feather, Jan 19, 2013.

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Who will win?

  1. Roger Federer in 3

    47 vote(s)
    37.9%
  2. Roger Federer in 4

    52 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Roger Federer in 5

    7 vote(s)
    5.6%
  4. Milos Raonic in 3

    4 vote(s)
    3.2%
  5. Milos Raonic in 4

    8 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. Milos Raonic in 5

    6 vote(s)
    4.8%
  1. Cesc Fabregas

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    Raonic is the definition of average.
     
  2. Bobby Jr

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    Isner hasn't and wont amount to anything significant in tennis history books. That's the difference between him and Raonic - Raonic has a chance to at least.
     
  3. ark_28

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    He is the only man to have taken Nadal to 5 at the French he has inflicted Djokovic's only loss at IW or Miami for the last 2 years!

    His serve which hits heights of 148 on such a surface would have been unplayable its a real blow to the tournament and fans around the world of our sport
     
  4. Bobby Jr

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    Very smartly played match by Federer and pretty flawlessly executed too. Raonic will go away humbled from this loss - he was pretty much clueless and this fact was only masked temporarily because he is fortunate enough to have the serve he does.
     
  5. cc0509

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    Yeah, right. I am sure the organizers of the AO are crushed about Isner not being able to play there. Isner does not sell tickets except maybe in some smaller 250 tournaments in the US. 98% of the tennis revenue comes form Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray (and the latter two to a lesser extent.)
     
  6. ark_28

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    How many Masters finals has Raonic been in? how many wins does he have against Federer Nadal or Novak?

    Hes a prospect for sure but the fact is Isner plays an all out attacking game which can and has troubled anyone in the sport and on these courts that would have been lethal!
     
  7. pound cat

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    Here's the story of the match


    Unforced errors

    Raonic 41

    Federer 12
     
  8. sbengte

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    Why, I always knew that. All the NSK accounts keep saying what Fed says, i.e 'There is no GOAT and you cannot compare eras'.
     
  9. Bobby Jr

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    Age
    Raonic: 22
    Isner: 27 (28 shortly)

    If Isner was going to do anything he'd have done it by now. The reason he hasn't isn't because the world hasn't woken up to his "all out attacking game", it's because he doesn't possess an "all out attacking game" - he's a big serving dunce who is otherwise pretty clueless save for the odd forehand which comes within a couple of steps radius of him. :lol:

    Why on earth are we even talking about him in this thread? Raonic is more of a talent than Isner could have ever hoped to be.
     
  10. pound cat

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    No one can be happy with 41 errors yet with his error strewn game Raonic managed to get into the last 16 of a slam having also twice got to R3 of slams as well.

    Why doesn't he get another coach who can help him clean up his game?
     
  11. Feather

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    I think he is just trolling. In the entire match thread, he has been talking about Isner. Unnecessarily dragging Isner to almost every post
     
  12. vive le beau jeu !

    vive le beau jeu ! G.O.A.T.

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    add melbourne, beijing, san francisco, kathmandu and ouagadougou to the list.

    this isner guy is something.
     
  13. Sentinel

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    LOl, that was prisoner of birth :)
     
  14. ark_28

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    Isner did not turn pro till he was 22 as he played on the NCAA so he would likely have longer on thr pro tour to make a mark!

    His serve is his main weapon obviously its a world class shot but when in the zone this transfers to the rest of his game and he does play an "all out attack game" check out his 4th set v Federer last year, that was unplayable both with serving and returns! Raonic is talented but I am yet to see any evidence that he can produce that quality of tennis as yet
     
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    That is supposed to imply that Federer was pushing ;) acco to someone who poasted yesterday !
     
  16. Prisoner of Birth

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    Why do people here spell the word as "poast"? Anything I'm missing? I'm sure it's deliberate.
     
  17. djokovic2008

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    Wait till he plays the likes of Murray and djoker they break him for fun.
     
  18. Marius_Hancu

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    Yes, a coaching change is required for Raonic. They had their chances, now a new team needs to be put in place.

    Why stay in Spain when the rallying is flaky?
     
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  19. Steve0904

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    I've wondered that myself, but I've just laughed at it. Like to know what it means if anything though.
     
  20. Steve0904

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    Actually they don't, but you keep telling yourself that so you can get a good sleep tonight.
     
  21. natalia

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    Err did you not see the world tour final where djoker gave fed a headstart in both sets only to break him twice in each set do yes they break him for fun.
     
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  24. rafan

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    Raonic has got to learn to slow down his ground shots until he can deliver them fast like the top four. His game was not good today
     
  25. Steve0904

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    Don't mean to brag, but Federer in 3 like I said. I've watched Raonic a fair bit being Canadian (don't even like his game that much), and he's not THAT good. Playing Roger in a BO5 is totally different than playing him in a masters/250 BO3 especially for a young player like Milos. He also doesn't seem to have improved much from this year to last. Think he needs a new coach.
     
  26. zagor

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    I guess they didn't have much fun in Wimbledon last year then?
     
  27. Sartorius

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    Didn't see it, but sounds like Raonic underplayed. Their matches last year were very tight. Just read elsewhere that he had a problem with his foot.

    In the end Federer managed his way through a tough draw (at least on paper), so well done.
     
  28. dudeski

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    Better luck next time Federer haters.
     
  29. GhostDog

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    Milo's backhand needs a lot of work, so does his movement, though there may not be much he can do about that. He needs to drastically improve his return game as well. He won't be able to beat any of the top guys until he does.

    Federer took him to school.
     
  30. Towser83

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    Well no suprise seeing as he is 6 years older then the other top guys. Would be funny to see Nadal do this now and retire for good afterwards - just one 6 hour match was enough to lead to a 8 month injury break.
     
  31. Speranza

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    Holmes: They'll be back, lurking in the wings of the Tsonga quarter final, hoping, praying.....
     
  32. Towser83

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    I thought it would be a 4 set win for Roger with Raonic winning a breaker, but Federer managed to go 2 sets up and after that it was a breeze. Good to see roger taking these chances instead of maybe losing the tiebreak and then the match gets tougher.
     
  33. djokovic2008

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    But they did have fun at Aussie open 12 RG 12 shanghai or the O2 I won't go on.
     
  34. zagor

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    Oh please do but answer my question beforehand (unless you're too afraid to give a straight answer) did they have fun at Wimbledon last year?

    I mean if they break Fed's serve for laughs is it right to assume that they weren't in a joking mood last year at the most important tourney in tennis?
     
  35. Steve0904

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    I think your definition of breaking for fun is a little off. Sure they can break him, but he often breaks them just as much and sometimes more.
     
  36. Cup8489

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    tough draw is just beginning. in all likelihood he's going to have to go through Tsonga, Murray, Djokovic for the title. I think, IIRC, he could face all top 50 opponents if he were to win the title.
     
  37. TheF1Bob

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    Garbage match but was expected.
     
  38. Cup8489

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    Yeah, Paire was 48, Davydenko 40, Tomic 43, Raonic 15, Tsonga 8, Murray 3, Djokovic 1. So unless Chardy or Berdych/Ferrer/Almagro pull huge upsets, Fed will face all top 50 opponents if he were to win this.

    Did it once before, in 2010.

    Potentially beating 4 seeds, a high number for number 2.
     
  39. Seventeen

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    That's not even entertaining trolling - come on mate, you're better than that.
     
  40. Cup8489

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    Yeah I'm sure Federer had fun supplanting Nole's number 1 ranking despite being way out of his prime at this point, at 31. Embarassing, really, that a guy everyone keeps calling one of the greats can't hold onto his number 1 ranking against a guy who has only won one major in about 2 1/2 years.
     
  41. Sartorius

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    Murray being on his side is tough but it's rather supposed to be like that from quarters and on. The guys he faced in between 2nd-4rd round are all capable of playing better tennis compared to most of the field (actually thought people were hyping Tomic but he ended up being the most impressive opponent so far); Federer playing a shaky match at an earlier round wasn't so unlikely. In that sense I thought the first 2 sets against Davydenko (a little worse and he might have lost those sets) and the whole Tomic match was very impressive. Didn't see the Raonic match but with a serve like that anything could happen; a TB was guaranteed and Fed got through it.

    The rest is all to play for, including Tsonga, but I think Fed did great in the first week, better than last year IMO. Maybe the bit faster courts and better opposition has contributed to that.
     
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    If Isner wasn't American no-one would be talking about him ever.
     
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    Watching the Fed interview with Courier right now. Pretty funny stuff.
     
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    No love for Raonic?

    Unfortunately I missed the match, but just watched the highlights. I find it hilarious that the highlights don't show a single point for Raonic!
    Also, that serve drop shot is ludicrously amazing!!!
     
  45. joeri888

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    Where can i find it?
     
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    I find it interesting that Raonic is the same height as Berdych and shorter than Del Potro, Cilic, etc. but has an almost identical game to Isner and Karlovic, i.e. huge serve, awful return, even worse movement, and horrifically inconsistent groundstrokes.
     
  48. djokovic2008

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    Novak started the year number one and ended the year number one which is all that matters. He is the best in the world again all that matters. Will he end this year number one? HELL YEAH BABY
     
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    He has been in the world's top 10, beaten Federer in Davis Cup and Djokovic in a Masters Series event, reached a Grand Slam quarterfinal, won by far the longest tennis match of all time and set a huge number of serve records in the process...
     
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    Q. Regarding big muscles, we saw Djokovic ripping his shirt. What goes through your mind when you see a guy do this? Could you do this?

    ROGER FEDERER: That's exactly what I won't do. Other guys do other things. I'm happy that we're not all the same.

    I'm definitely not going to do that, especially with my little left arm. It would be a bit embarrassing to do that (laughter).


    :lol: How arrogant of Roger to talk himself like that.
     

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