Babolat Duralast "Nadals String"

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  1. thetennisman12345

    thetennisman12345 New User

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    Does anyone use this string here? If so have you ever used the Hurricane and could you tell a little about the difference between them. Also, if you aren't familiar with this string you can find them on that little auction site. You can obviously tell that the Duralast is what he's playing with if you look closely at pictures, they are transparent and Hurricane's are not.

    http://i17.tinypic.com/6cpkg8m.jpg (from another thread)
     
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  2. fastswingVD

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    nadal use babolat grip
    didnt' know that
     
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  3. thetennisman12345

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    yeah, the pic shows his grip type too.
     
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  4. Ash_Smith

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    If Hurricane is stiff, then duralast is off the scale - like fence wire!!! I used to string it for a friend of mine, it's viscious stuff - I've lost count of the number of times i stabbed myself in the fingers with the cut end!!!

    Think playing with the bottom of a frying pan!!!
     
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  5. Richie Rich

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    duralast is a first gen poly. it's like kirschbaum super smash. feels good for about 4 sets then it feels like crap.
     
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  6. Serpententacle

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    Why isn't Duralast offered for US consumers? They could make good sales on that...
     
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  7. thetennisman12345

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    Yeah, does anyone know when or if they every sold Duralast in the U.S.? It must be good if Nadal uses it and he doesn't even hybrid it with anything either. Also, if the Nadal and Federer are stringing with low tensions why do they get such a pop sound, a sound as if it's strung high? (please don't answer with "because they are pro's", we all know that. Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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  8. smO

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    I've heard nothing good about it.
     
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  9. kingdaddy41788

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    The pop sounds isn't high... it's low...
     
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  10. M J

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    I've tried Duralast a few times. It is the harshest, nastiest polyester string I know of. I think Ash_Smith's comparison to fence wire is fair. It makes Hurricane feel like gut. The stringbed feels so dead and so hard, even at low tensions. It just feels like something is seriously wrong with the racquet in a way I have never felt with any other string.
    I love hitting with a lot of topspin, but I play awful with this string. I have no idea how it can work for Nadal, but I trust he knows what's best for his game. It must be something only a pro can understand.
     
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  11. Leelord337

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    yes, he uses a 4 1/4 grip size w/3 overgrips and no replacement grip (according to John McEnroe when he was commentating and said it on ESPN)

    btw, what gauge string is on nadals racket?
     
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  12. Richie Rich

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    pretty sure its 15L
     
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  13. NovakWannabe

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    Babolat or Topspin Duralast? 'Cause my coach has got reels of Topspin Duralast 15L...

    EDIT: My bad, I didn't see the topic title
     
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  14. Cup8489

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    if you're planning on trying it, just stick with hurricane... you won't ever need to play with it. it dies so fast that it's pretty much a waste of money. it dies fast like luxilon. but luxilon is actually good off the stringer, while duralast just tells you itll give you TE.

    yeah, we all wish we had nadal's forehand, but copying his stringjob isnt the way to get to it, that's for sure.
     
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  15. KerryJ

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    haha, painted cortex.
     
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  16. thejuice

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    That's funny. I just noticed it too.
     
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  17. i use this string... and it is awesome... but like others say... it is almost worthless after a few hours.
    i used to re-string once a month... but now i must restring all the time... it
    is basically a use once and discard type of string.
    i am trying to extend the life of it by hybriding it with another poly, enduro pro 16g... but it still only lasts about 8 hours instread of 3 hours.

    it feels very crisp/spinny/powerful when fresh, but turns into springy,sponge,dull after a couple hours.

    a FRESH duralast stringing really does feel amazing though! but most of my hitting partners that have tried it don't have the patience to deal with constant restringing. they would prefer a solid syn. gut that lasts a long time.

    i've never used SP polyplasma, and people tell me i would switch away from duralast if i tried it because is lasts a lot longer. if i could get it in 1.35 gauge i would definitely try it.
     
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  18. Fedace

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    ^^ Yea, you would think this string would last a while with name like DURALAST.. they should call it the Shortlast-enjoy it while it lasts string.
     
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  19. CyberInferno

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    Lol. I have that kind of discontent about stringing with Head Rip PerfectControl 16. Not really that it's super sharp on the ends as much as it's just uncomfortable to weave. My fingers feel bruised by the time I make it to the end. And of course, everyone who wants it has an 18x20 pattern :evil:. It also sounds like it's rope when pulled across the mains, gets snagged on everything, and kinks like crazy. That's the nice thing about Hurricane to me. At least it doesn't kink :)
     
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  20. quest01

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    I have tried Hurricane Pro Tour and I felt the string had no power. I had to literally swing my butt off to generate anything off the ground with this string. The string offers nice control and spin but it's certainly one of the lowest powered strings I have used.
     
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  21. mrmo1115

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    ^^^^

    i actually think that is true only if u string pro hurricane tour the whole racqet i hybrid it with gut to make it feel good

    however im comparing hurricane tour to some other polys

    i hate polys that are as stiff like ive been reading so far about duralast
     
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  22. Fedace

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    Pro hurr tour has decent power when it is fresh but if kept in hot weather after about 6 hours of play, it will go dead and it will lose everything, power, control. i made a mistake of playing singles against 5.0 guy with DEAD pro hurr tour in the racket. Boy it was not fun. My passing shots were going straight up the middle like it was warmup or somthing. and my returns had no sting. My opponent was able to do anything he wanted to do, drop volley, swing volley, little angles...
     
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  23. PBODY99

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    Duralast as a 1st generation poly had one thing going for it, ti was cheap. clay courters used Super Smash for years before the current "new
    " polys came out.
    I too hate RIP Perfect Control, but two of the best players I string for love the stuff. I pre-stretch it to stop it from kinking so.
     
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  24. DashaandSafin

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    Is Babolat Ballistic an old poly?
     
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  25. Babb

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    ^^^^
    I think first-gen.
     
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  26. thetennisman12345

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    string life - a matter of hours?

    I saw a couple posts that mention this. Is it true that strings could "die" in a matter of hours? I personally don't see how this could be true. I have never cut out my strings to have it re-strung though too. They see to play about the same the whole time, any strings that is, to me at least and I am around a 4.5 player who plays 3 or more times per week. Are people saying that they loose tension (I know it might loose a little but not that much, right) or the string actually dies in a matter of hours from having a tennis ball hit it around 100 times?
     
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  27. Strings And Things

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    He never said that the pop sounds were high. I presume you mean high-pitched. He wrote "such a pop sound, as if it were strung high" -- probably meaning high dB of the "popping" sound as if t he strings were strung high.

    You see, his point was this: "Higher tensioned strings crush the ball more (flattens it more), therefore the crushing/popping sound is more emphasized."

    You thought he was referring to the higher pitch of the stringbed. He wasn't. You can't even hear the sound of the string vibrations on tv (at least I can't), so this cannot be what he was referring to.
     
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  28. Serpententacle

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    Could anyone tell me what they think the longest lasting string is? The ones that don't lose tension so quickly, and keep pretty much the same for months at a time?

    If such strings exist...

    And don't tell me steel, or fishing line... or give me ridiculous answers. If you don't think such a string exists, then simply just say so...
     
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  29. AlpineCadet

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    CyberFlash and CyberPower are semi-durable with decent tension maintenance.
     
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  30. bluescreen

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    i found quite the opposite. i string pht higher than i would with other polys cuz the ball seems to catapult off the strings.
     
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  31. Babb

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    Kevlar is the most durable. But it is worse on the arm than polyester.
     
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  32. thetennisman12345

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    I would think that Babolat Duralast would last a long time since the name suggests that they would. They are hard to find though.
     
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  33. Serpententacle

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    Duralast is reputed for lasting not long at all.
     
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  34. sharpblade

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    I'm currently using duralast 15L (1.35) and it has very good durability. But this string only plays good for the first 2 hours.
     
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  35. Fedace

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    I think when this string PHT is fresh right off the string job, it has pretty good pop but as you play on, it will start to go dead. and lose lots of power. For the 1st 2 hours of play, PHT gives me very good power, serves and groundies. but as i pass 2-3 hour mark, i noticed that string starts to go dead and loses power significantly and after about 4-5 hour mark, it feels like dead Nylon.
     
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  36. douglaswoody37

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    Babolat Duralast 15L (Nadal's string)

    Hi, just read this thread and wanted to comment. First, I have a reel of this string that I bought from a pro shop in Istanbul, Turkey a few years back. I normally use Luxilon (LTS, Supersense, TiMO, BB Ace, etc.) and Duralast does not play anywhere near as well as Luxilon. It is stiff and not fun to put in my Prestiges (18x20 obviously) but good luck breaking it. I was told by a Babolat sales rep that it is of such low quality they don't want to sell it in the U.S. market and that Nadal is just used to it and has had such good results with it that he sees no reason to change. Thanks.
     
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  37. Fay

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    I would love to restring my racquets every week ... but can only afford to do it them every 6 weeks or so.
     
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  38. ericsson

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    Nadal has the most stringjobs done, i guess you know why, duralast is a string with short life but with long durability, my personal opinion is that it's a string for heavy topspin players, strings move around too, especially after awhile, and they make a lot of sound.
    Nadal use this cos he grew up with it and feel good with the strings, it's also a very low powered string (especially 15L), like said before it's a personal thing, just like tension.
     
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  39. Ivan Morales

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    About the Cortex...

    Has anyone relized the Cortex System is fake? I mean, it's painted, not real.... Those players...

    By the way, we have Duralast in Spain and I think it's nt a really bad string... Well, there are better polysters, but...

    All the best for you guys,
    Iván. :)
     
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  40. kikiviva

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    yes.. very loooong time ago.. long time ago...
     
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  41. Ivan Morales

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    Sorry... :(
     
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  42. RCCTigertennis

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    who cares if rafa does well? that means you have to buy more of his string? thats ridiculous. if you like it, buy it. if you have a choice of duralast (and you play so so with it...) and another string not used by nadal (and you play just as well, maybe cheaper also) then why use the duralast? people like this make us all pay premium for strings. if top string companies could not sell their product for as much due to a decline in sales, then we would not find ourselves paying 25 bucks a pack for Big Banger... (btw, cyberflash plays the best, and is the cheapest of the quality poly- i highly recommend!)

    thats my rant.
    thanks. and i love you tennis warehouse.
     
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  43. goldenyama

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    Such strings exist - natural gut. Gut maintains tension and plays well pretty much for ever, and is also much more durable than most people think. Klip Armour Pro and Pacific Toughgut last for ever and are very resistant to moisture and temperature. Babolat VS lasts well too if you take care of it.
     
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  44. Fintft

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    How do you take care of natural gut?

    Pre-stretch it and string it slower then usual then what?

    I've used Babolat tonic and lasted for ever like you say: 6 weeks but I'm now trying VS touch and it has frayed faster (still didn't break though)....
     
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  45. betofranca

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    Duralast

    I play with Duralast 15L its very stiff, the guys who string my racquets (used to have Babolat Pure Drive Roddick with 20g of lead, now I change to Head Prestige Mid also with lead tape) say they feel like light cables very hard strings, they don't like them because it hurt they hands, the feel you get is so low, I really don't now how to dscribe it, Babolat sales the reel in about 70dls more or less but here in Mexico, I really like this string because of to much top spin I give to the ball the nylon ones were broken in about 2 days sometime less, I tried Pacific Poly Power15L but I broke them in 1 week, Babolat duralast resist more like 2 weeks.

    Before Duralast I used the Hurricane tour but I broke them so fast, also Babolat conquest(I think that's the name) and Babolat Long Life(the name doesn't go with the product) and Duralast with Long Life, I like PHT because it generates a lot of spin so easy and a very nice feel. Awesome string, but I stay with teh Duralast. So If you want this reel maybe the store were I buy them could send it to you http://www.*************.com.mx
    it has nothing to do with the store in Houston.[​IMG][/IMG]
     
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  46. betofranca

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    Duralast

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    another image
     
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  47. nadalfan!

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    What's in the *?
     
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  48. liftlobby2

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    i'm not sure why rafa uses 15 gauge string cos it seems like such an extreme choice... i've always thought that he uses a 16. and the tension that he strings it at..omg...
     
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  49. hondas2k

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    does he really use duralast? that looks more like hurricane tour...
     
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