Babolat Nvy problems

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  1. joshthefisher

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    I usually play with msv focus hex 17L mains 53# and prince lightning Xx spin cross's 57#.

    I just strung msv mains 53# & Babolat Nvy 57#. The feel is much better than with the lxx especially on volleys but my serve is suffering with a lot more double faults and I am more unsure of myself.

    Should I adjust the tension to give me more spin? Any recommendation on what I should do will be greatly apreceated. Also if a soft more spin friendly cross recomendation is available let me know. Ultimately I want the feel of the nvy & the spin of the lightning.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. raging

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    drop Nvy back 2lbs to 55# OR put Xcel in the crosses.
    you will get more feel with Xcel.
    costs more.
     
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  3. Irvin

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    Why not go back to the Lightening string or something similar like Gamma Gut II?
     
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  4. joshthefisher

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    I realy want to keep the feel for volleys & for some reason the lightning volleys almost like a poly but the arm dosent feel it so much.
     
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  5. joshthefisher

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    What other effects mite it have?

    Would natrul Gut be an option? If I was going with as pricey a string as xcel just cheep go with N Gut right?
     
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  6. Chotobaka

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    If you like the feel of N.VY, (which I personally think is not a good string for feel), you should be pretty much amazed at what natural gut or a high quality multi will do for you on your volleys.
     
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  7. joshthefisher

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    What are some recomendations for mutis?


    Is this stuff any good? I've never heard of colored Nat Gut until now, does it play any differant?
    http://www.*********/itm/2-SETS-16G...523?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ece12b2c3
     
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  9. anubis

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    If you want more spin, you won't get there by doing a hybrid. I recommend going full poly if you want to maximize spin.

    Hybriding a poly in mains with nylon in cross is to:
    1.) more inexpensive
    2.) softer on the arm
    3.) A tad more power

    but, you sacrifice spin.

    I'd go full bed MSV @ 55 lbs.
     
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  10. polytheist

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    Nvy crosses are great for muted feel but they do not provide much spin. Even a generic syn gut cross will provide more spin.
     
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  11. Muppet

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    I've gotten a lot of spin from a poly/multi hybrid using Dunlop Hexy Fiber 16 for my cross string. The main string I was using was also very spinny but not shaped, so it's hard to tell which string was contributing how much. The Hexy Fiber also seemed good for feel, strung five lbs. above the main. And the price is right, so it's worth trying.

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Dunlop_Hexy_Fiber_16_String/descpageACDUNLOP-DHF16.html
     
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  12. joshthefisher

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    Full poly kills my arm I had to switch it wasn't realy a choice. It actually costs me more to go hybrid because I buy MSV by the reel.
     
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  13. StringingIrvine

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    Are your serves going long or into the net?
     
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  14. anubis

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    Well, I guess the real question is: are your shots sailing long? There's two ways to deal with shots sailing long: increased spin or increased tension.

    Unfortunately, both situations will increase the overall stiffness of the stringbed, which may hurt your arm.

    To increase the spin, you need to decrease the friction coefficient of your mains sliding against the crosses. Only way to do that is to have your crosses strung with a string that's very slick and smooth. You could try reversing your setup, Nv Y in mains @ 57 lbs with MSV in crosses @ 53 lbs. But I think you'll saw through those mains pretty quick, and it will increase the power overall.

    Otherwise, stick to your same setup, but you need to get the Nv Y tension higher... as those strings, being nylon, will increase your power more than MSV will. 57 lbs may be too low. Try 56/60, although again it might hurt.
     
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    Well both but serving long from trying to over generate spin on my second serve and im launching the ball higher on release trying to get over the net.
     
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    Shots are as good as ever if anything beter, geting a cleaner but "muted" like someone mentioned feel. I am able to push forward more than with the xx strings, for some reason that setup doesn't volly to well but the point has to start first and its very hard to get to net rolling serves.
     
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  18. joshthefisher

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    Where do you get your Genesis Thunder Blast?
     
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  19. Chotobaka

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    The Tennis Depot. It really is a great string and will not cost an arm and a leg.
     
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    There are several places that sell it now. I wish one of them was TW. The black is good too, it just bleeds all over the balls and is slightly stiffer.
     
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  21. raging

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    yes, as Chotobaka says if you want feel, go for natural gut-that will help feel on volleys and power on serves.

    what racket are you using, what do you want/need out of the string bed exactly?

    If you want to do your arm a favour use gut and get used to it.
     
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  22. joshthefisher

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    I am looking for some more feel for volleys. Otherwise I am quite content with the lightning. I have tryed some other poly mains but always go back to msv hex.

    Since trying the nvy x's my serve has been not so consistent, put that frame down pick the one up with the lightning x's serve perfect.

    So I blame the nvy it may just be tension though I will try 2# more on the x's when I restring my 3rd frame
     
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  23. Rjtennis

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    NVY is nice in a hybrid as it has a smooth coating that allows the mains to slide. It also is very durable for a syn gut. On the flip side it is stiffer than most syn guts. I like to use NVY for people like like using hybrids but are string breakers.
     
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  24. joshthefisher

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    That coating looked like month old nat gut in 2 hrs from the hex slideing over it.

    The lightning would cut through after about 3-4 weeks I doubt I'll get that out of nvy but I seem to be adapting. I ordered hexy fiber to try since I was ordering from tw yesterday.
     
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  25. joshthefisher

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    Ordered some cheep nat gut off the bay to try $28 for 2 sets I mentioned it earlier but the forum blocks it.
     
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  26. tandringa

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    What makes a really good hybrid with the MSV Focus Hex is the MSV Spin Plus. I play with this combination for over a year now, way better than full job. More feel in groundstrokes, better in volleys.

    Multi with focus Hex got way much string movement if you play with alot topspin
     
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  27. Rjtennis

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    The cheap gut should be fine if you can string it without it breaking. Thats the challenge though. I wouldn't use a textured poly with the gut. It will slice right through.
     
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  28. Chotobaka

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    Chicken gut? :)
     
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