Babolat Pure Storm GT vs Pure Storm Tour GT

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  1. mrmo1115

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    I'm going to switch to whichever of the two is more comfortable to me, but I want to hear opinions on them and how they match up against each other. I know the weight difference is evident.

    My last couple sticks have been the Tecnifibre 305, Wilson K Blade 98, Head Flexpoint Prestige, and the Yonex V Core 98D for a very little time.

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  2. Power Player

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    The Tour is a racquet GROAT. It is so good that Sampras himself uses it. He adds 15 pounds of lead tape to the frame and strings it at 88#s. So you can use it stock and be fine.
     
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  3. mrmo1115

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    I'll see if the 12 ounce weight will hold me back at all. I'm honestly leaning towards the Tour just because it looks like a much more solid frame... but I'm not going to make any assumptions without trying them both.
     
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  4. tenimuhyotennis

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    Having demoed both, the Tour is indeed a little more stable and better for flatter strokes and volleys, but lacks a little bit of the spin potential of the regular Pure Storm.
    So...if your game is a little more spin/angle oriented, I'd go with the regular.

    Not that I'm biased one way or the other... (see sig):)
     
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    Which one serves better? One's better for spin serve vs flat?
     
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    PSTGT for the win!!! The tour is just more solid and stable than the regular GT unless you plan to do some customizations, then all bets are off.

    I have demoed quite a lot of player's racquets and keeping coming back to this wonderful solid and plush stick. You can hit tospin or flatten shots without any issues and the control on this racquet is wonderful not to mention soft on the arm.
     
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    PSTGT. The things hits a monster ball with ease, unlike the wimpy little brother it keeps around to remind you how much of a stud it is.
     
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  8. mrmo1115

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    I'm a player who hits with more more flat than with spin. Although I don't consider myself a flat driver. I just don't hit with any massive spin nor do I concentrate on hitting topspin.
     
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    Tour all the way.
     
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  10. mrmo1115

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    Hmm is the PST still a maneuverable racquet?
     
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    I think it's quite maneuverable and the harder and faster you swing, the heavier ball you produce. It is just wonderful racquet that doesn't get much notice on the forums.
     
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    The Pure Storm line should be divided up. The PS plays very differently from the PST and the PSLGT. The PST and the PSLGT are two very different racquets.

    You really need to demo the PS and the PST side by side with your favorite string. The PST is not that heavy and is much more solid feeling. The PS just feels like a beginner frame.
     
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  13. mrmo1115

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    ^ Yeah I know they are completely different frames. I don't know if I can modify string setups as I hate throwing a half pack of Natural Gut onto a demo. The PST is a racquet I am looking forward to playing with. The PS is just to give me an alternate racquet to compare to.
     
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  14. un6a

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    PST GT is very good frame, but be sure you are strong enough to swing it comfortably. It is more solid, but also more sluggish than most racquets with same weight.
     
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  15. mateencleaves

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    I've hit with the PS GT extensively. I've only hit with the Tour for about 5 mins, so I can' t make a comparison. My experience is a bit different than others who have commented. I think the PS GT is a surprisingly stable racket, especially for its weight. I hit against 4.5/5.0 players and haven't had any trouble with racket stability against hard hit balls. To me, it's one of those rackets that doesn't really shine in any one area, but is very solid on all strokes. Also, the PS GT is a good platform for customization. I've found that finding a string set-up that I feel completely comfortable with in this stick to be a bit of a chore.
     
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    Although I have not hit with the 2 versions of Pure Storm racquets ... I find it hard to believe that they created 2 separate layups for 2 completely different racquets...(one being the Tour and one the regular) from the same mold AND used different weighting for them.

    To me it seems much more likely that the Tour is a Regular with some weight added to it (this would make more sense from a production perspective as well) and the reports with regards to different playing characteristics are simply related to the different specs (weight/balance/sw).
     
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    This is a very good description.
     
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    Well I just came back from hitting with the PSTGT for 45 minutes. The strings were Wilson HC and I hated it.. however, I did notice that I was a tad sluggish with the racquet. It may be too demanding for me but I will have to play a set or so to see how it would react.
     
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    Give the PSGT a try. I just got to hit with it the other day and its very comfortable. Without a dampener, it was still noticeably more comfortable than the Pure Storm Team GT, and hit much better. (I was getting more topspin, more pace and more control)
    I was expecting to not like it, and it impressed. (fyi- I havent hit with the tour, so cant compare those two)
     
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    To me, it didn't feel sluggish but then I was using a KPS 88 before this so maybe I have a different perspective. I like the fact that the weight is mostly in the handle and I don't feel it in the throat or the head of the racquet. It is nicely balance and is this what some would call a polarized racquet? I have a harder time generating racquet speed when the throat area is a tad heavier such as the Aero Storm Tour GT or any racquet where the majority of the weight feels centered in the handle.
     
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  21. mrmo1115

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    I'm so torn between the racquets that I'm going to string both demos with my normal strings and see how it goes. The PSTGT feels solid and I like it, but it seems pretty demanding for me. On the other hand the PSGT feels light and easy to swing, but it might be missing that extra oomph I want.
     
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  22. psycho0

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    I think what you need is something in-between these racquets. I would suggest in getting the PSGT and then customizing with lead tape to your desired specs. Whereas, if you get the PST, you're stuck with what you have unless you take off the bumper to make it less demanding.
     
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  23. mrmo1115

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    I think something in between would be great but I don't really want to get into customization and fixing anything around..it's just something I've never done and want to get into. Taking off the bumper? I never heard of that before.

    I'll string both with my normal string set up and see how it goes.
     
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  24. psycho0

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    If you don't want to fiddle around with lead tape, you can always just replace the stock grip with a leather one. This should add around 8g and make the racquet more headlight to match the PST.

    I personally used to use the youtek prestige MP, which has very similar specs to a PST. It was great during practice but during matches I found it too demanding. I demoed the PS GT and loved it so I switched over. I have about 10g of in the handle so the specs are somewhere in between a PST and PS GT.

    So I suggest you take both racquets out for few matches and see which one you feel more comfortable with. Best of luck!
     
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    You found the YTK Prestige too demanding? I actually found every Prestige to not be that demanding. I even used the Flexpoint Prestige MP before. It's odd how I've dived into tweener frames like the KB98 after a long stint with the Prestige. How do you compare the PST with the PS ?
     
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  26. psycho0

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    I found the PST very similar to prestige MP in terms of weight but the PST had a bigger sweetspot, more pop and spin most likely due to the open string pattern. I found that I had difficulty keeping the ball deep during matches with the prestige even after trying numerous leadtape customizations and string setups. I had no problem keeping the ball deep during rallies but in a match situation, I guess my wrist locks up a bit and I tend to hit short. What I needed was a lighter racquet with a bigger sweetspot.

    Personally for me, I found the PST was very stable and had more plow than the PS, however, I find that during pressure times in a match, the lighter stick lets me get away with a lot more especially if my technique and footwork is not 100% there. That's mostly personal preference, but I definitely suggest you taking both racquets to a match and then compare because regular rallying doesn't really reveal what you want in a racquet. Hope that helped.
     
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    Indeed it did help. Thanks a bunch. I will indeed do that. Play with both in individual sets and see how I feel.
     
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    I have found the PS GT to be pretty string sensitive. With full poly in the middle of the tension range, it seemed pretty low powered. With natural gut mains and poly crosses, there was definitely more pop, actually too much pop for my liking. So, I think if you experiment with various string set-ups, you'll likely find one that will give you the extra oomph you're looking for.
     
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    I have been playing with the Pure strom Gt for a year and I can tell you it's a good racquet even thought demending. It's on the low power racquet that works pretty well with full bed poly but it's missing something. May be some extra weigh, some plow through and maybe stability especially when you play with people who hit with heavy top spin. Also the serve is kind demanding. I'm honestly in about to try the Tour version to see if it works better. a while ago tried the KBlade 98 and it is a low powered racquet in my case with a demanding serve.
     
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  30. topspin18

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    The pure storm tour is a perfect weight for my game and nice power. I had a leather grip and 4g of lead at 3 and 9 and about 4 months later my wrist got destroyed because of the added weight and now i am back to stock and everything feels fine. I am still looking for a nice poly to work with this frame. I really liked Black codes and BHBR so far. Any other strings set up work?
     
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    I had the same issue. I just went with the Standard PSGT's and beefed up the swing weights. I also added a Leather grip. My specs are listed in my Signature. I can recommend these rackets without hesitation.
     
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  32. mrmo1115

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    I tried both racquets today and I noticed that the PSTGT definitely gave me a heavier ball but it was noticeable harder to swing. It was still a comfortable frame to hit.. definitely not overly stiff or overly soft. One shot that troubled me immensely with the PSTGT was my backhand..just couldn't get the timing right. The PSGT gave me a lot more freedom to swing out however I felt like I lost a lot of the sting on the ball I had on the heavier PSTGT. Again I'm leaning towards the PSTGT, but I need to play with them both more. I'll report back my opinions after every day.
     
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    Back from another light hit. Starting to lean towards the PSGT.. the PSTGT is starting to reveal its sluggishness to me. Anyone have any recommendations as to other racquets with close the same plowthrough as the PSTGT but won't cause me to feel a little sluggish out there swinging repeatedly?
     
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    Sweet action. I know these are demos, but have you considered adding lead to the PSGT? It does wondrous things with some in the handle.
     
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  35. mrmo1115

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    I don't think I'm going to lead the PSGT if I end up switching to it. Which is why I'm having some trouble making a final decision on which stick I'm switching to.
     
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  36. TheOneHander

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    Why would you not? Just for curiosity's sake. I thought I was going to leave m ASGTs stock, but I ended up modding them for more whip-which is great.
     
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  37. mrmo1115

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    Not too familiar with leading up sticks. Don't really want to tamper with balance and what not.
     
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  38. mrtrinh

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    im also debating between the pure storm gt and the pure storm tour gt. I currently play with the microgel prestige pro and I guess the sensible thing is to go with the tour but the high sw scares me a little. Im also thinking about just buying the pure storm gt and leading it up a little. very surprised this frame is 1hl
     
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  39. mrmo1115

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    ^ The swingweight is definitely causing the racquet to feel extremely sluggish. I'd sometimes spray a ball 2 feet wide when I'm trying to rip a ball down the line because of the timing thats off. I enjoy the type of ball I generate when I am set up and get a nice swing at the ball, but I don't have the consistency which is causing me to hesitate to switch to the PSTGT. The PS GT is indeed 1 pt HL, very close to an even balanced racquet.
     
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    i think the ps gt is a good choice, but I think you should definitely consider adding some weight to the handle to help make it more maneuverable. A leather grip and a few strips of lead should make that racket perfect
     
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    We'll see... again I'm pretty adamant about not tampering with the racquets, very inexperienced in customizing. mrtrinh, which of the 2 are you siding towards?
     
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  42. mrtrinh

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    most likely the pure storm tour gt. its most similar to the current sticks I play with, the k blade tour and microgel prestige pro. Still need to demo though
     
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    I've owned both. The pstgt hits a nice ball and it's great for consistently heavy shots but I find it's hard sometimes to take it to that next level as it's somewhat log like in its balance. The pstgt would be ideal if it were around 12grams lighter: somewhere in the mid 330's like the ytmp instead of almost 350g strung with an og.

    The psgt on the other hand has that really strange balance. I under stand you don't want to do anything with lead but the psgt even the addition of a heavier leather grip would help out in adding some beef to the frame.

    The great thing about the lighter psgt is that it enables you to have the stick speed create a penetrating ball and that's what matters at the end of the day.
     
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    Which of the 2 did you prefer more? I agree I wish the PSTGT was just a tad lighter. You are 100% correct though.. I do indeed feel like I can hit a more penetrating ball with the PSGT, although not as heavy of a ball with the PSTGT. Again I'm leaning towards the PSGT because I feel like I can be more consistent with it.

    If my racquet history helps with any suggestions at all here it is, starting from the FXP Prestige MP, going to the MG Prestige for a little bit less than a year, going back to FXP, going to Wilson KBT for a little before going for the 98, then going to Tecnifibre and its 305 T-Fight.
     
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    I just recently switched from the PS Tour GT to the PS GT after playing with the Tour for nearly a year. Although I agree with everyone here that the Tour will hit a heavier ball, volleys better, and feels more "plush" than the PS, the extra weight hurt my game more than it helped.

    With the PS, I "cover" the ball better, especially on my backhand side (one-hander). Even with bad footwork, I can still get the racquet through the zone properly. With the Tour, and when playing heavy hitters, I was late often (thus creating that ugly sidespin screwball-type shot).

    Also, I serve bigger with the PS because I can pronate better. This equals more power and more kick (on those rare occasions when I actually use my legs.)

    Finally, I welcome the lighter frame late in matches when my feet have turned into bricks, my mind mush, and my strokes laughable. With the Tour, I was very conscious of the weight and my inability to finish my strokes.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  46. mrtrinh

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    can you tell us what you liked/disliked about each frame you have played?
     
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    Sure. The FXP Prestige MP gave me loads of control, but I eventually switched because I did not have much on my ball, I felt a lack of pop and action. Mind you I was around 12 when I was using the Prestige, so many players I played around that age weren't hitting with much power. Transitioned to the MG Prestige MP, but eventually preferred the firmer and more stable feel of the FXP Prestige MP. Tried the YTK Prestige MP but disliked it more than the MG Prestige MP.. too dampened of a feel. Tried the K Blade Tour and liked it, gave me good control, but once again didn't feel like it gave me enough pop so someone recommended me to try the KB98, which I did and I got along with it. This was the first time I ever ventured into the lower 11 ounce range.. and I surely didn't mind it. In fact, the KB98 to me swung heavier than its weight. After the BLX Blade came out, I didn't really like the feeling at all, in fact it felt like a different racquet all together. I eventually tried Tecnifibre, since my coach is sponsored by them, and enjoyed the pop and control of the 305 VO2 Max..the 325's little brother (Team version you can say). The 325 was too demanding for me at 12.1 ounces and extremely stiff. Used the 305 and loved the pop and control, but eventually developed some shoulder/arm problems with it, most likely due to its 69 Stiffness. I tried and thought I would be switching again to Yonex V Core 98 D , but the stiffness brought back some pain in the arm/shoulder so I decided to look at the Pure Storms. So as you can see, I'm more used to the lower 11 ounce racquetes now..as the only previous racquet that I've used in the higher 11 ounce range-low 12 ounce range was the Flexpoint Prestige MidPlus.


    This helped a lot. And it also describes how I feel about the PSTGT as well. Possibly one more hit to confirm how I feel about these frames. But I'm close to switching to the PSGT!
     
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    String set-up for pure storms?

    I am currently using a psgt - just had for 2 weeks now - but liking it a lot. It was already strung with prince syn gut duraflex. It feels great, power and control are also good. However, I wonder how it performs with other strings (poly, multi, hybrid).

    Anyone care to share their preferred strings and tension for the psgt or the pstgt?

    (Sorry mrmo1115 for sort of hijaking your thread, but I figured you may be interested in the string recommendations as well)
     
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  49. mrmo1115

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    It's fine. My string setup though is a PHT/VS Touch if that helps at all.
     
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    I liked the pstgt better as the balance was too different for me on the psgt.

    The psgt would be more effective IMO if it was more like the pd or the apd spec wise. In stock form, it's just too light for me and I'd have to add weight in too many places for it to work for me. That's why I prefer the Radical Pro over the regular Radical.

    In the end, I went back to an apdgt and modded it to 334g with 32.5cm balance. I know my specs pretty well.

    I saw that you didn't like the ytmp Prestige. Did you ever try the ytpp: it's an open pattern but it's got great control and is very arm friendly. The specs would be right in your wheelhouse: mid 330's on the weight and the SW is only 320ish. Great stick and it produces a nasty slice:twisted:
     
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