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  1. drakulie

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    ^^^thanks origmarm. I could definitely see where you would confuse it with the star 4, as it has a lot of the same characteristics.

    Could you provide a bit of feedback on the machine?? That would be great.
     
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    Stay tuned, i will post close ups of the 4002 soon and a lot more...
     
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    patiently await! :)
     
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    Man, that Star 2 looks amazing!!!
     
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    Finally the 3502:

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    Thanks for great photos drak- star 4 looks great and you like you are having fun!:)
    Ericsson awesome photos, did the 3502 come out in france around 91,92?
    I think that may have been the machine I "learnt" on back then...
     
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    depending how much I play,,,,,, about twice a week.

    Yup, they all look great! :)

    always! I really enjoy the process. I'm getting psyched. I have a tourney with 250+ entries I'm stringing for starting tomorrow. I should be busy.

    Have to agree these are some spectacular photos ericsson is sharing with us.

    ericsson, are some of these photos you have taken personally?? I'm very envious you have been able to see all these machines up close.

    The 3502 and 4002 are just blowing me away. each photo set you put up is better, and better. :)
     
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    Most photo's are in my database, including a lottttttttt of rackets too ;-)
    A lot of these machines i saw in real, some pictures were sent to me.
    I'm still looking for that drop weight made by Babolat, i forgot the damn name...
     
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    Sure no problemo, from what I can remember:
    - Very reliable. I don't work there anymore but the Sensor that replaced it has broken at least once in about 1/10th the service time. This NEVER broke.
    - Fiddly to mount a racquet, none of this "arms move together" stuff you get on the new 6-point mounts. Each mounting pount, one by one. Do the ends first, then the sides. Very secure once in though.
    - One clamp stringing meant a lot of starting clamp fun as you can imagine. The way I used to do it you more or less had to have two but I'm sure there's a better way. Clamps were very good but you had to lock them twice, once where you wanted them and once round the string. I think on the new Babolats it's "one shot". Also I seem to remember they had 5 teeth, the new ones have three I think...
    - Never used the "turntable brake" but I remember there was a little lever for it near the front underneath that you would wind.
    - Other than that very simple. Dial i.e. no fancy buttons/console.
    - Not the quickest pull in the world.

    Cheers, Orig
     
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    Look forward to more photos!!! YOU spoil me!


    Thanks for the review. Much appreciated.

    I wish. But alas, Not even close. But I do play quite a bit, and mostly drill with an ex-futures player, which explains why I break strings frequently.
     
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    Babolat Sensor

    My buddies (vincescourt) brand new Babolat Sensor. Has only two frames strung on it, and I did one tonight. :) Took the opportunity to take a few pictures to share in the thread. Machine is absolutely sick! Super smooth to string on, although it took some adjusting to get use to the clamps.

    Thanks, vincescourt!

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    Nice pics Drak, i really like the colours on the Babolat machines, now and in the past.
     
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    ^^^Yeah, my buddy has it set up pretty high. I would definitely not feel comfortable stringing a lot of frames at the height he uses. Tourney is going well. Will give more updates at the end of the week.
     
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    Ericsson, I contacted Janneman. He said he is in contact with you and sending you some photos.

    I hope he ends up providing some feedback on the machine he uses.
     
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    The sensor sure is a looker i almost couldnt tell it was a stringing machines and those clamps look odd. How would u lock them? Just push the big button down?
     
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    yes, push down to lock and the clamps drive it up when you release and drop them tho i believe you can also do it manually(i have not strung on the sensor, but i have on the star 5 and those string clamps are as nice as they look)
     
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    ericsson, any more updates????

    I'm experiencing withdrawal!!!!! :)
     
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    LOL, more stuff to come Drak, i'm just a little busy ;-)

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    Does the 2002 have the same dial for the tension as the 1001?
     
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    I missed the pics of a 3502:

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    And a 2502, not the "e" version that is shown on page 1:

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    ^^^is that your machine???

    also, what is the difference between the one pictured, and the "e" version?
     
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    As you can see in my signature, I use a Tecnifibre TF5500.

    The difference between a 2502 and a 2502e is the electronics. The 2505e has a digital tension display like the 3001. The 2502 has one like the 2002.
     
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    ^^wasn't sure if that was an older machine you once owned.

    Thanks for distinguishing the differences.
     
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    I know it's a long shot but does anyone have the manual for this machine. A friend of mine found the 01 version and is determined to restore it.
     
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    here is a photo of the machine ( sorry for the quality)

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    Thanks for the photo of the innards of the Star ericsson, always wanted to take a look inside the housing but never dared open it up.
     
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    Ericson, thanks for the update!! Great photos of the inside of the machine.

    Thiseas, have you tried contacting Babolat?? They may be able to send you a PDF file of the manual for that machine.
     
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    Had a lengthy conversation with Vahn over at Babolat today. He called to let me know my clamps are ready and he would be shipping them out today. While on the phone, he informed me that Babolat France advised they will soon stop making electronic parts for the Star 2 and 3, however, the 4 will still be ok. Once they run out of of parts for the 2 and 3, those with that machine will have to search high and low for electronics.

    On a side note, he also told me they have been moving from one offie to another, and have been re-arranging a lot of stuff. Anyway, he stated they were going to be showcasing as many babolat machines they have in order to show a history of the machine. I thought that was pretty cool, being that is what Ericsson is doing here.

    :)
     
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    Sounds interesting with Babolat France news on star 2, 3, ..I have been watching various sites and asking lots of questions about used machines. Your Star 4 is looking pretty good.:)
    Babolat UK will offer me a deal on the Star 5 and the unit looks great, I loved the colours , (despite the various problems with the clamps marking polys), my favourite machine on here so far. I am not sure my usage will justify it but it will look great in the backroom/office.:)
    Make sure you get lots of photos when Babolat finish showcasing their machines, not as competition to Ericsson, but just to make this thread even better.:)
     
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    My mistake, it was the Sensor on here!... I saw the Star 5 somewhere else, read Greg Raven's review of it...asked a few stringers a lot of dumb questions...

    Mobility and weight is a big factor in favour of the Star 4, 5 , despite the obvious appeal of the sensor! :)
     
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    Raging, good look with the purchase, and remember there are no dumb questions. Lot of posters on this and other forums more than willing to share info. The Sensor, as you stated is very heavy, and as a result a pain to carry around. While the Star 5 is not as heavy, it is still more cumbersome to lug around than a machine like the Star 4, which is relatively easy in comparison to lug around. Imagine what it would be like to carry around a Sensor Expert :shock: ouch!
     
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    Starring Dual

    While Ericsson is on vacation, thought I would contribute a few photos. This is a machine I found being sold on the fleabay France.

    The Starring Dual. It also is being sold with what appears to be a very old babolat tool set. Notice the cam action clamps, as well as the starter clamps with only one spring.

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    Anyone know what the name is this machine is?

    While Ericsson is still enjoying his time away form the boards, I'll try to keep this thread alive. I came across this machine on the net. It is definitely a much older machine, as it has the older Babolat Logo.

    If anyone has any information on the name of this machine, please chime in.

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    EDIT: After looking at Ericssons first photos, this appears to be the "Babolat Exclusive", machine.
     
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    I find it interesting that the Starring Dual has what appears to be a single fixed clamp


    Keep 'em coming, this is my favorite thread
     
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    Drakulie the array of awls in that picture is mind boggling. I can't begin to think what some of them are for.

    Also they appear to have a really nice looking pig.
     
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    I agree! Drak, where do you find these photos?
    unbelievable history behind these machines.
    the toolset on the starring dual looked in great condition.
    thanks
     
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    Yes it is the Exclusive, i'm not on holiday, just very busy lately, i'll be back...
     
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    i havent seen anyone put any pictures up of a Star 5 so I'll go take some pictures and post them. I've got to string a frame too so I'll take some pics of stringing too.
     
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    Yeah, the one clamp (mono) seem to be very popular in europe, and many of the stringers there consistently say they are very fast and smooth to string on. I would like a chance to string on one of these.


    Yup, many, MANY tools for craftsmen/artist such as ourselves. :)

    I love seeing some of the older tools.


    Look forward to more of your posts!.



    Nope. None so far! We are waiting for you to share some of the photos of your Super Star, Star 5!
     
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    I love to see them also, I just wish I had a better understanding of what a lot of them are for. I barely use a regular awl at all, let alone an array of 8 different ones! There also appears to be a "hook" or two in there also that I can't fathom...
     
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    ^^^Yulitle has a "tool" guide in which he explains the use of many tools. That said, I think for the purposes being discussed here after looking at some of these tools, I could enlighten just a bit.

    When I learned how to string, I was taught that the "hooks" you see in the photo are used for moving strings on the string bed, and also for hooking a string on the outside of the frame where one comes across a "blocked grommet". Both procedures which are very dangerous as some of these hooks are sharp, and can damage strings.

    The different awls pictured have different lengths, shapes and diameters. Some may be grommet grinders. Some may be very thin at the tip, or thicker. Personally, I use a short awl, with a fairly rounded end.

    I use the cam action to tie off, and sometimes to pull strings thru grommets. The are a great tool, that give great leverage, but one needs to be careful because they are very powerful.

    Anyway, hope someone else whill chime in and give a little more detail.
     
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    Babolat 4002 Machine

    Went out to my friend, Gary's place to take a few photos and video of his 4002 machine. Thanks Gary! Much appreciated.

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