Babolat vs Wilson

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  1. 127mph

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    Its six slams and counting where the mens slam finals are wilson vs babolat in the finals, not to mention wilson vs babolat in the wimbledon final 4 years in a row. of course its because federer is in every slam, but babolat has a good mix of top players.
     
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  2. quest01

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    Ill take a Wilson over a Babolat racket.
     
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  3. Alex132

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    Wilson is classy :p, Babolat is rookie stuff :lol:.
     
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  4. Duzza

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    And you know who wins? HEAD.
     
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  5. slice bh compliment

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    I remember a Wilson and a Babolat in a Grand Slam final over ten years ago, back when Babolat was known as the people who made the best gut.

    Anyone got the answer?

    Anyway, I see Wilson as a huge, diverse marketing company with two good frames that change paint every two years. I see Babolat as something similar, but they are able to cash in on the European look and a very modern feel to the 'player's frame'. It's like they have deliberately avoided making a player's frame, because they feel that genre is beginning to dwindle, even at the tour level.

    If I used Wilson, it would be a Pro Staff 90 or whatever it is RF uses...I also like the 95 version a lot, which has been around since the early nineties. You can really get some pop the ball with those, and they have a good feel. Stiff for my tastes, but very solid, which cannot be said about most of the crap that's on shelves today.

    I feel a heavier, more flexible version of whatever Rafa Nadal uses (which is probably heavier than stock) is a real weapon. Baghdatis' Fischer, too. Probably the future of tennis right there. As I get older, I think I may have to embrace something like those....or the forthcoming line of Storms from Babolat. The Ks, nBlades, surges and nPros just do not do anything for me.

    Maybe people feel Wilson is 'classy' because of Federer and Sampras. Edberg and Courier. Henman (early years).

    I see Dunlop/Slazenger and Volkl as 'classy'. I see Fischer and Tecnifibre as the hippest brands right now.
     
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  6. TheKingOfClay

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    so out of Federer and Nadal's racquet, if you had a choice, which one would you buy first? and does a 90 sized racquet actually play that much differently than a 100???
    thaks!!!
     
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  7. quest01

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    Personally i would probably buy Nadals racket first. Federer's racket is very demanding and is recommended for 5.0+ players. A 90 sq in racket has more control but considerably less power while a 100 has much more power but a decent amount of control. I think of a 100 inch racket as more of a blend of power and control.
     
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  8. Forehand Forever

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    Federer's racquet is too stiff. I'd go with the APDC
     
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  9. Aeropro master

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    Definetly the APDC!
     
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  10. i think its all personal opinions, you cant say oh, federer uses wilson so its a better raquet company!
     
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  11. TheKingOfClay

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    I am definately leaning on the Babolat...:)
     
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    that just shows your level of play
     
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  13. TheKingOfClay

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    I am not even close to being a 5.0... so I will stay far away from the k-factor...
     
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  14. DonBot

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    As much as I have loved Babolat products over the last couple of years, I have yet to find one of their racquets that does not give me serious forearm pain. Something I never had with the ps 85 or k90. I also wish Babolat would make heavier (in the 12-12.3ish) weight racquets. I think there stuff is too light and I hate adding forty layers of lead to make it playable.
     
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    good to know that... so I wonder of the Aeropro drive cortex is ok on the weight side... hmmm I will look into it...
    thanks!!!
     
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  16. schadenfreude

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    Wilson is, simply put, a boring company. Babolat is a much more exciting company with the ability to become "the it brand" in Tennis, if they haven't ever been before, which they may have been in 2001. Before Babolat I liked Head.

    The only Wilson racquet I like is the KZen. I like Dunlap sticks better then most of Wilson's stuff.

    Babolat is the best.
     
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  17. TheKingOfClay

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    Babolat for me!!!
     
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  18. 127mph

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    use looser strings
     
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  19. Alex132

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    ill make APD Cortex over the K90s...like someone said its a lot more demanding, its gonna suit you if your like uber pro...

    Wilson does have tons of racquets for any kind of game, haven't played with many of those Babolats.
     
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  20. Morrissey

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    Both Babolat and Wilson make great frames. They also share the same grips as well. Much better than those Head grips. I would pick out the Aeropro Drive Cortex and Pro Staff 6.1 K Factor (10.2 ounce version) are the two best frame from both companies, at least for me. I know everyone has their thing, those are mine. I like 'em light for customization. Now to answer the question, I'll take the Babolat 9 out of 10 times. Easier to hit with pace and spin, it's like a drug their racquets.
     
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  21. AndrewD

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    1998 French Open: Carlos Moya (Babolat) vs Alex Corretja (Wilson) ?

    Excellent summation of the Wilson line, Slice.
     
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  22. slice bh compliment

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    Thanks.
    Actually that RG final may have been two Babolats?

    I was actually thinking of Pete over a very young Moya at the '97 Oz Open final.
     
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  23. Noveson

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    Oh and I supposed you are a 5.0:rolleyes:
     
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  24. yourmom08

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    was playing last night with my PD and broke a string, borrowed a friends nTour and hit very well with it, didn't have to change my swing in any way, was leery of the 5 inches smaller head, but not a problem, my point is, both wilson and babolat make great racquets, there are great arguements for both
     
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  25. Frenchie

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    The 1997 AO Final between Sampras and Moya is the first Grand Slam meeting between Babolat and Wilson racquets I can remember. Wilsons are about control, Babolats are about spin and power.
     
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  26. i personally like babolat better, but its all opinion on what type of player you are and what you like
     
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  27. goosala

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    It's amazing how much market share Bab has gotten in the past 10 years. Ten years ago when I first saw Carlos Moya play with his frame I did not know what brand it was.
     
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  28. slice bh compliment

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    Got it. Yes, that is what I was going for.

    As for the rest of the post......myyyyyehhhh. A little general there, but I'll buy it if you mean Wilson Pro Staffs and Pure Drives.
     
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  29. Bubba

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    What planet are you from?! Huge difference between 90 and 100 frames... sweetspot size, twist/torque...
     
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  30. azz4tennis

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    wilson more control

    babolat more power less control

    wilson 4 me !
     
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  32. LouieR93

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    Between both of the brands, I personally would go with Wilson. Most top players in present and history have been with Wilson. Pete Sampras, Justine Henin, Roger Federer, Lindsay Davenport, Ana Ivanovic, etc... I would choose Babolat over Wilson only for shoes.
     
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  33. baseliner87

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    is it true that wilson get their gut from BaBolat?
    i think i heard it somewere but it could be B*llshit.
     
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  34. KingOfTennis

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    deffinately Wilson. but i do admit babolat is getting there.
     
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  35. diggler

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    I always buy Wilson but this is purely an emotional attachment. I'm sure all these rackets are made in the same factory in China.
     
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  36. a guy

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    One reason I don't use wilson is because 90% of the people I see at the courts are using wilson in one form or another.

    Yonex for me...
     
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  37. A.T.S.

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    Babolat For The Win!!!!
     
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  38. gdsballer

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    all of you are simply ridiculous...the best racket ever made is not by wilson or babolat or head or prince or even dunlop...it's the 137 sq inch gamma big bubba...duhhh

    actually i play with a babolat apd+ and its serves me quite well, played with a pd+ before that so i definteily take babolat
     
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  39. Jonny S&V

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    You all are mistaken. Dunlop is the greatest racquet brand of all time. DUH!!! Granted they make a few mistakes in the manufacturing process, but they still have the most feel of any racquet (Although I am thinking of switching to a Head Prestige. Any suggestions as to which one is the best?).
     
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  40. slice bh compliment

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    Funny story.

    You're just talking about the Pro Staff, right?
    Re: baseline banging....I'm afraid that's got more to do with the actual player. If your frame of reference is Federer and Roddick, you are right, though. But y'know, thousands of Wilsons are in the hands of baseline bashers.
    BTW, Rod Laver uses a Babolat.
     
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  41. quest01

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    I like the Head sizes more with the Babolat rackets. I prefer using a 100 inch square size head over a 90 or 95 personally. I havent tried the k fed 90 but i have tried in the past the ncode 90 tour and that racket in all honesty made my game decrease dramatically. The racket has a tiny sweetspot and is relatively heavy compared to the Babolats. I like Wilsons tradition but if i was going to use a racket to improve my game i would go with Babolat.
     
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  42. 127mph

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    ill just say this, if you want the ball to go on the line, use a wilson
     
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  43. tennis_hand

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    i don't know. but i will never use a Babolat racket. It has image problems with me.

    I am using a Wilson. I can also change to Prince, Dunlop, Yonex, or TechniFibre. Not Head, because of its dense patters and handle shape. Babolat is a never.

    Just preference. I think Wilson has some talents to spot talents. Djokovic is the upcoming best player, and he is using a Wilson. But Wilson didn't sign Gasquet who has a 1HBH.
     
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  44. h7hugo

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    wilson is the best!!
     
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  45. Bodacious DVT

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    i prefer wilson. im switching racquets soon and ive demoed both. i just like the look and feel of the ncodes over babolat. babolat sorta feels like my old clunky prince racquet i used when i was 6.
     
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  46. samrocksmyshire

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    oh, duhh! need to get one of those bad boys.

    i actually have an AeroPro, K90, and the nCode 95. I love Federer, but i play better with the Babolat. the K90 is definitely more demanding, and so i don't typically use it.

    so, between the nCode 95 and the Babolat, i prefer the Babolat with some added weight. Although i would definitely be all over a heavier 95 APD.
     
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  47. Wawa

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    i will choose babolat
     
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  48. DonBot

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    do you have any problem switching between those sticks? just playing a little with the pdr or the aerorpro drive will take me a day or two to get back in the groov with the k90. To tell the truth I think the lighter racquets just make me lazy :)
     
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  49. lilxjohnyy

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    i like wilson for control but i also like bab for power of serves
     
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  50. Kingbipa

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    To each his or her own. I don't think either Wilson or Babolat is "better" than the other. They just have different characteristics. I do think that the K90 and its predecessor Pro Staff racquets are geared for control and finesse. And this is exactly why so many great champions have used Wilson racquets. Not because Wilson racquets are better, but because these players were able to generate their own power while benefiting from the control that Wilson racquets provided. In other words, you cannot be a "pretender" to play with a PS 85, that's for sure, or a PS 90 or Ncode 90 or K90 for that matter. In that sense, one can even argue that Babolat makes the better racquet because it enables lesser players to achieve more by adding more power or spin to their game. At the end of the day though, it's the player that makes the difference, not the racquet.
     
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