Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by diggler, Sep 10, 2012.
My real name is Mendax.
Internet anonymity is resulting in heated debates causing melting of polish icecapes and resulted in ice age in very little time.
I guess that explains why there isn't any cr4p on Face book...
When you live in a world where speaking the truth can get you fired and threats of violence, I think anonymity is good. Of course, anonymity on a tennis board like this isn't really important, but the trolls tend to out themselves quickly in most cases.
For US citizens, it is un-American to be against anonymous publishing as anonymous publishing was key to both secession from GB and the passage of the Constitution.
Anyone for warrantless surveillance?
Of course, but we would need to destroy some more landmark buildings first.
Can you cite a specific example of what you refer to as "appalling behaviour"?
Governments need no further reasons to curtail free speech and increase security survelllance. They're doing it already.
Its not really a question of banning internet anonymity as much as whether sites like this one want to insist on names in order to make the site less trouble-free for moderators.
The issue of free speech doesn't arise in this context. There wouldn't really be any global agreement on legislating against anonymity. In any event, they know your IP address so youre not really anonymous.
I don't have the power or the will to fight the shadow world government - I guess I might just have to join them. Selfish, huh...
Everything that goes on is done through legislation or agreements of one sort or another, which are almost always publicly available if you read the right publications.
When news reports are full of the latest juicy murder then you do have to look ...
But there's no need for a paranoid 'shadow world government' conspiracy theory.
Maybe I'm just a loonie type that looks for government conspiracies everywhere and jumps on every chance to debate politics with people who don't care about politics...:?
I knew your real name was r2473, I knew it.
Not all speech is protected under the 1st Amendment. Defamation, fraud, disclosure of private facts (an aspect of invasion of privacy), threats against the president's life, etc., will all potentially subject you to a visit by a process server, or worse, a Secret Service agent.
You certainly are the sort that sees fault in others that one never descries in oneself.
My name is Brad Pitt.
My name is Doug Pitt.
Ahem. 10 chars.
I'm Dirk Diggler.
So I'm supposed to give out my full name, address, mother's maiden name, date of birth, and sexual preference? No.
You're a terrible actor.
i always think of milton's aeropagitica when this comes up.
Thanks for clarifying that....did you notice the word "nearly" in my post?
And that retired soldier who was sent to a psych ward because he posted something on FB?
An adult website, to which I subscribed several years ago, was based on user-submitted content in the form of a bulletin board. Whenever trolling becomes excessive, the website owner would out the real identity and contact details of the trolls and cancel their membership without refund. This would bring down the troll levels for a few months but trolling would gain steam after the initial hiatus. Goes to show that not all humans can handle anonymity. Finally, the website owner had to remove anonymity as a whole from the website. The website is still thriving.
I'm trying understand this comment but I just can't. Speech is a form of behavior. It makes no sense on either a logical or linguistic level to me to say that it isn't. Actions are actions-- an act doesn't stop being behavior just because it carries semantic content.
If I give somebody the finger, is that speech or behavior? Clearly it's both and the two aren't separable.
Also wrong. It's not true that "nearly all speech is tolerated." Nearly all speech is legally protected. But in the vast majority of social contexts many kinds of speech are considered unacceptable and not tolerated.
Yelling "Go Rafa" during Federer's serve toss is usually not tolerated. Telling your boss "you suck" is usually not tolerated. Getting up to speak at a funeral and telling a random joke is usually not tolerated. Try any of these things and you'll likely be held accountable in some fashion-- you just won't be prosecuted.
There's a vast amount of speech which is effectively forbidden by custom and discretion, if not by law. That's why anonymity makes a difference. Whether it's a "problem" or not is another question.
You know they're introducing this in China, as a law. China of course is a great role-model for human rights and personal freedoms, and one we should certainly be encouraged to follow and learn from. Right?
As far as "all speech being tolerated", next time you're passing through security at an airport, shout out very loudly "I'VE GOT A BOMB!" Then try telling the security guards "What about my freedom of speech?"
Just try it, I dare you.
That's a hoary old example of the limitations of freedom of speech.
There have been people arrested for telling jokes about bombs quietly among friends at airports and its been overheard and then the police descend.
This is an Internet forum for a tennis retailer. Who cares what people say on here or if it's anonymous.
The funniest part of this thread is that not a single person who posted so far has used their real name.
So far using my real name here for nearly 10 years has not caused any problems.
Larry Summers did.....
Also, Fuji is unanimously considered the nicest poster on TT and he doesn't use his real name.
I guess I missed that one, but from scrolling through the names quickly it does not look like a real name.
Lots of people do care. What if some crazy Nadal fan starts sending me death threats? Imagine my full name was being used, how do I know the nutter hasn't tracked me down already?
I'd rather ban dihydrogen monoxide.
in korea, sin number is required to register with websites
My real name is tushar.I come here to say,rafa will become the 1st man in the history to win 4 grand slams in 2013..Vamos!
Not entirely true - I consider myself the paranoid type. But is it really paranoia if someone is after you?:lol:
Separate names with a comma.