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  1. Barca tennis

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    Hi,
    i live just outside barcelona in spain, i play and coach tennis out here it is a great place to train and play, i know alot about the academies out here and how they work, so if any one wants to know anything just ask!!
     
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    Buenos dias!

    I would like to know howmuch it costs to go there for a weekend (or a week) and hit some balls with a GOOD trainer and learn some stuff, i'm talking about one of the academies ofcourse ;-)
    I've always wanne to taste the spanish clay.
     
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    Hi, the cost for training per day is about 75 to 90 euros, to find a place to stay will cost 35 to 45 euros a night, hope that helps,
    have you red clay courts in belgium?
     
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    Yep red clay all the way! but i guess they are a little slower then the ones in spain, it's more humid here. Can you give me some excellent addresses of places to go? (or website)
     
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    a good place to go would be Andres Gimeno tennis club in Castelldefels just down the road from the airport. its a cool club with two academies their, lots of club members with some very high world rank players hitting and chilling out there.its a lovely town with great beach and lots of places to eat and drink. Andres Gimeno has a site you can look at. email castelldefelstennis@hotmail.co.uk english guy who lives out here can sort out the right coaching, academy, etc etc for you
     
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    Muchas gracias señor!
     
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    Mr Barcatennis, can you please give as much detail into the pros and cons of these academies:

    1) Sanchez/Casal
    2) Bruguera
    3) ProAB
    4) CIT/FCT
    5) Barcelona Total Tennis
    6) Andres Gimeno
    7) Spain Tennis Academy
    8) CAR st cugat

    Which do you think are the best in terms of quality training? In terms of professional outlook? In terms of personal growth as an individual?
     
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  8. Barca tennis

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    this is what i think
    Sanchez. big money making machine,if your a top player then great if looking to be a top player than not so great.good professional training if your the best!expensive tho

    Bruguera. great for kids, all seem to have a good time, ok to start there, but if your looking to be a professional will have to move on.

    ProAB. sorry dont know it. any info please pass on

    CIT/FCT. very good.have to be a very very high level to train there. very professional training and out look

    Barcelona Total Tennis. good, hard working, but very expensive

    Andres Gimeno. great place,fair price,two academies, great for juniors, top pros there to

    Spain Tennis Academy. dont know any one that trains there, sorry, is any one out there that does????

    CAR st cugat. have heard good things about coach there, have seen a couple of junior players from there,looked good.

    littel info on what i see and hear....what do you think? do you play out here?:)
     
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    I agree that this one looks great -- but they don't take adults who just want to go for one or two weeks. Do you have views on which are the best for senior adult recreational players? Many thanks.

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    Is there an english language web site for this one that you could point me to?
     
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    hi crosscourt, they do coach Adult player of all standards at the club in castelldelefs. they have many good coaches there
     
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    the web site is only in Spanish. you can find some info in english if you search
     
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    Barca -- when I spoke to them about this they said that they didn't. I think that they don't run residential courses for people like me coming from the UK.

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  14. Barca tennis

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    if you contact guy at castelldefelstennis@hotmail.co.uk he will be able to sort out coaching for you. he can get english speeking coaches at the club that can do this for you. hope to see you in sunny Castelldefels one day
     
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    Barca -- many thanks. I will follow this up.

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    Could you post your findings please mate?
     
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    Will do.

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  18. Barca tennis

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    hi moz, see your looking to start playing alot, if you need some trainning with top players then come and take a look out here
     
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    Hi

    Actually I was thinking about spending a month in about March over there - there is also an ITF senior's event in Girona at the end of the month. It's a case of getting costings and research done. I'll catch up on all the threads and go from there.

    Cheers

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    I'm looking to go there too, late march or begin april, Barca, what's the temperture begin april around Barcelona? 8)
     
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  21. Barca tennis

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    will be the start of beach weather then!! today the weather was 19! so well into the mid to high twenties....:)
     
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    Damn, that looks good ;-) if things go through i will let you know, podemos beber quizá una cerveza :)

    Hasta luego!
     
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    if im around will try and meet up for a beer, your spanish is very good!! let me know when you have a date
     
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    hey barca, just wondering how i would go about getting into coaching over there? i coach over here in australia and would love to see how it runs over there, just for a couple of months you know to get experience and learn what we call over here. ''the spanish way''.
     
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    Hi baseliner
    there is a acamey over here who work with good up and coming juniors who would be very happy for you to come and help out with them, they have had uk and usa coaches in before, you maybe able to do some RPT coures when here too, which is the spanish coaching setup, let me know what you think and i can ask them if you like?
     
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    well i'm currently 21 been coaching since i was 17, but i would love to learn the spanish way. do you think i'll be able to have a job there just for a couple off months?
    i'm looking into going to spain either late this year or mid next year.

    let me know your opinion.

    gracias
    real mente me gustaria acer algo
     
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  27. Barca tennis

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    it is very hard to get a full paid coaching work here for you.the academy will be more than happy for you to help them, but they would only give you a little pocket money maybe and help you find a cheap place for you to stay.it may cost you some of your own money to do this but is the best way to come and look how its done out here, many like you have done this and had a great time learning.you may be able to get some hitting paid hours out of academy time but this depends on your playing abilty.if you want i can ask them when would be a good time to come?
     
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    i thought that might have been the case, but it's still good, i would be happy to do that.
     
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    baseliner if you email we can sort out making this happen for you,
    many thanks Barca
     
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    E-mail sent:)
     
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    DON'T GO THERE! IT'S ****! ALL THEY WANT IS YOUR MONEY.....THEY STICK YOU IN POKEY ACCOMMODATION, AND THEY GIVE YOU NO ADVICE ON HOW TO IMPROVE...... IF I WERE YOU I'D GO DOWN TO FERRERO'S ACADEMY EQUILITE IN VALENCIA......I WENT THERE INSTEAD OF THE ****HOLE GIMENOS, (WHERE IT'S SECURE, GOT GREAT ACCOMMODATION AND A WHOLE CHOICE OF FOOD) NOW I'VE JUST TURNED PRO @ 16 AND HAVE REALLY HIGH HOPES!!!!!!!!
     
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  32. fibresupex

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    What???:-? I went to Gimeno for 2 months and it was one of the best tennis camps ive been to!!! I dont no where you get your facts from.The club had good quality players a reasonable price and good cheap accomadation!!

    Ive read this guys post hes sounds a real jerk!!!
     
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  33. Barca tennis

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    Hi Bonga glad you made it as a pro, i was a pro too! maybe i could still give a 16 year old a game! tell us what your world ranking is,
     
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  34. Ash_Smith

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    I've done some work with Enrique and Fran who run the academy 'Elitennis' based at club de tenis Andres Gimeno. We ran an RPT course there last september and they are both awesome coaches, Fran especially has some great ideas for improving fitness both on and off court.
     
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    was the RPT course good? i'm thinking off doing one myself.
     
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    Hi Ash

    I'm not following you around! Conincidentally I have been talking to someone in the past week about spending a month at that clubin March / April.

    He mentioned that there are two academies at the club and he suggested that I go over, check it out and decide which academy to join.

    I would be grateful if you could tell me anymore about the academies / club . set-up.

    Thanks
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    Without wishing to blow my own trumpet (I'm an RPT tutor!!!) - it was awesome!

    In all seriousness, having attended various courses as a delegate and now delivering courses as a tutor I can strongly reccommend the RPT as a coach educator. There is a high degree of technical teaching, but it is based on cutting edge video research rather than an outdated idea of technique (not having a pop at any other organisation!!!) along with error detection, squad teaching, Street Tennis, drill building, tactical teaching for singles and doubles, Spanish Academy drills and much more. It is all based around the spanish academy system - as you may know we trained the coaches at Sanchez-Casal, Equelite, Elite and many more.

    Are you based in the UK? If so I can help you get a course sorted out.

    Regards

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    As far as I am aware: The club Andres Gimeno itself runs a coaching programme (which in Spain is generally called an Academy!!! It's all the rage out there!!!) with it's own coaching team and 'Elitennis' run by Enrique Guldberg rents 4 courts to run it's own Academy from the club. Elite is the full time academy and currently has about 9 full time players, about 4 from the UK, and others from Spain, Holland, Ukraine and somewhere else (I forget where!).

    Elite also do holiday, weekly, monthly, termly academy packages. However, whilst I was there, Elite academy caters for junior players only.

    Club de Gimeno however, have coaching clinics and classes for all ages and the standard I saw from the club players was pretty high - some good clay court tennis!!! You'd best contact the club for full details.

    There is a nice hotel opposite the club called Hotel Barcelona Classic and it's only a 10 minute walk to the beach at Casteldefelles, which is stunning!!!

    I wont take out a restraining order just yet!!!
     
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    Thanks very much Ash - I was offered accomodation in a shared house about 5 mins walk away.

    Definitely sounds as though it's worth looking into.
     
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    hey guys, have been following the discussion on spanish academies.
    Am a new zealand coach heading to europe this summer and looking to gain some more knowledge. have looked into doing a week long course at sanchez casal but it is quite expensive and some of the comments on the place arent great. anyone have any prior experiences here? or any better places to observe/ coach for a week or so?

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    Sanchez-Casal is a very good academy, with a good name (and all the coaches are RPT!!!). However there is a danger that it is becoming a bit like IMG Bolletieri in that the name is now bigger than the results and that you need money rather than talent to train there. In fairness, academies are a business and the mass players pay the bills for the talented ones to train.

    In terms of the coaching, it's mostly built on repetition and drills - actually the same drills repeated over and over again. The work ethic instilled in the players is phenominal.

    If you want to see a less commercial academy in action try Elitennis at Club de Gimeno as discussed earlier in the thread. Smaller in scale but more personal for it.
     
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  42. Barca tennis

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    Hi kiwisam,
    if you can email me, i can sort this out for you, you can come and spend time on court with the academy at Elitennis,
    which will give you a good insight to what goes on out here,
    summer is a great time to come out here as the academy will be very busy,
    will be able to arrange cheap housing for your stay too,
    thanks Barca
     
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    Hi Ash
    thanks for comments,
    are the RPT thinking of doing any more courses this year?
     
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    Hey Barca

    Are you involved with Elitennis? I'm looking to bring a squad from my Academy out for a weeks training in mid May so they can see how the Spanish set-up works and how hard the players train!

    RPT wise we are running around 100 courses in the UK this coming year and I believe there will be around the same number run across Spain. The course in Barca was a re:train course to update coaches who had trained previously on the latest progressions etc. We will do another later in the year - September maybe?

    Regards

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    Ash,
    yes i know Enrique and Fran very well they are great people,
    will be great if you bring some players out.
    can meet up and have chat if you do,
    thanks barca
     
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    Will keep you posted. Last time I came out I stayed at the Hotel Barca Classic opposite the club, but would be good if we are brining a few players (5 or 6) out to rent a house maybe nearby. Do you happen to know of anything or any contacts in Casteldefelles that might help us out?
     
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    Barca,

    We are coming to Castelldefels on the 11th april till the 13th, hope we have a great time there, we'll be staying at the houses 5 min away from the club, if you're around drop me a mail, we can drink a San Miguel ;-)

    Saludos!
     
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    Hey thats great news,
    am always happy to drink a San Miguel!
    will mail you near the time so we can meet up
     
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  49. Barca tennis

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    If you contact a English guy at castelldefelstennis@hotmail.co.uk he will be able to find you somewhere to stay for sure
    Barca
     
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  50. Barca tennis

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    Hi Ash
    where in the uk do you coach train play ect?
     
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